Cooling system flush

At what mileage should I consider a cooling system flush on an 01
Corolla (actually a Prism)? I now have about 44,000 miles. Winter
temperatures are frequently below zero in the morning. The local chevy
dealer wants $140 for the job and the Toyota dealer wants $90.


---MIKE---[color=blue][color=green]
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')[/color][/color]

"---MIKE---" <twinmountain@webtv.net> wrote in message
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At what mileage should I consider a cooling system flush on an 01
Corolla (actually a Prism)? I now have about 44,000 miles. Winter
temperatures are frequently below zero in the morning. The local chevy
dealer wants $140 for the job and the Toyota dealer wants $90.


---MIKE---[color=blue][color=green]
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')[/color][/color]

You should do the initial coolant replacement at 3 years, then every 2 years
after that. The factory coolant fill is diluted with distilled water but
since most service facilities use tap water, the replacement cycle is
shortened to 2 years.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

The Poster wrote:[color=blue]
>
> At what mileage should I consider a cooling system
> flush on an 01 Corolla (actually a Prism)?[/color]


My Camry's guide says the Camry uses
"Genuine Toyota SUPER LONG-LIFE Coolant"
and that it doesn't require initial changing for 10 years
or 100,000 miles. But after the first changing, the frequency
shortens to every 5 years or 50,000 miles. Nice. Toyota's
always striving harder. Do the new GM and Ford models also
enjoy long-life coolant?

Perhaps the poster could ask his mechanic if
"Genuine Toyota SUPER LONG-LIFE Coolant" would work in his
Corolla to extend change times to only once every 5 years?

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 17:41:06 -0500, "Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>The Poster wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> At what mileage should I consider a cooling system
>> flush on an 01 Corolla (actually a Prism)?[/color]
>
>
> My Camry's guide says the Camry uses
>"Genuine Toyota SUPER LONG-LIFE Coolant"
>and that it doesn't require initial changing for 10 years
>or 100,000 miles. But after the first changing, the frequency
>shortens to every 5 years or 50,000 miles. Nice. Toyota's
>always striving harder. Do the new GM and Ford models also
>enjoy long-life coolant?[/color]

yes, with mixed results for GM. They use dexcool, which in my
experience gums up way before it is supposed to be replaced.
The Ford stuff seems to hold up so far.
I would flush it earlier anyways since I am in Arizona and cooling
systems need to be in top shape here !
[color=blue]
>
> Perhaps the poster could ask his mechanic if
>"Genuine Toyota SUPER LONG-LIFE Coolant" would work in his
>Corolla to extend change times to only once every 5 years?[/color]

[email]TwinMountain@webtv.net[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
>
> The local chevy dealer wants $140 for the job and
> the Toyota dealer wants $90.[/color]


$140 for a coolant flush and fill!! Saints preserve us.
I remember my local Meineke was running a special over the summer
for a $35 flush'n'fill. Jiffy Lube probably wants $65 if I remember
correctly, but last time they changed by old Tercel's coolant, the
color changed from red to green. Not to worry, they said, it's the
same stuff.

Umm, scratch that. It was Midas, not Meineke, that
ran the $35 special.

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:TaSdnV_jZey2eHbeRVn-rA@sysmatrix.net...[color=blue]
> [email]TwinMountain@webtv.net[/email] wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> The local chevy dealer wants $140 for the job and
>> the Toyota dealer wants $90.[/color]
>
>
> $140 for a coolant flush and fill!! Saints preserve us.
> I remember my local Meineke was running a special over the summer
> for a $35 flush'n'fill. Jiffy Lube probably wants $65 if I remember
> correctly, but last time they changed by old Tercel's coolant, the
> color changed from red to green. Not to worry, they said, it's the
> same stuff.[/color]

The green stuff is not the same as the red stuff. Genuine Toyota coolant is
silicate-free .
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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>
> "Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
> news:TaSdnV_jZey2eHbeRVn-rA@sysmatrix.net...[color=green]
>> [email]TwinMountain@webtv.net[/email] wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> The local chevy dealer wants $140 for the job and
>>> the Toyota dealer wants $90.[/color]
>>
>>
>> $140 for a coolant flush and fill!! Saints preserve us.
>> I remember my local Meineke was running a special over the summer
>> for a $35 flush'n'fill. Jiffy Lube probably wants $65 if I remember
>> correctly, but last time they changed by old Tercel's coolant, the
>> color changed from red to green. Not to worry, they said, it's the
>> same stuff.[/color]
>
> The green stuff is not the same as the red stuff. Genuine Toyota coolant
> is silicate-free .
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]

And for good reason.

Richard[color=blue]
>
>[/color]

---MIKE--- wrote:
[color=blue]
> The local chevy dealer wants $140 for [a coolant flush and
> fill] and the Toyota dealer wants $90.[/color]


My local Toyota dealer only wants $55, which is cheaper
than Jiffy Lube, but I live in the Midwest. Where do you live?
I think a house that sells between $600 k and $800 k in
California, for example, can be bought here for only $200 k.

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote in message
news:8bGdnVVF6OcgoWzeRVn-jg@sysmatrix.net...[color=blue]
> ---MIKE--- wrote:
>[color=green]
>> The local chevy dealer wants $140 for [a coolant flush and
>> fill] and the Toyota dealer wants $90.[/color]
>
>
> My local Toyota dealer only wants $55, which is cheaper[/color]

That would probably be for just a "drain and refill".

[color=blue]
> than Jiffy Lube, but I live in the Midwest. Where do you live?
> I think a house that sells between $600 k and $800 k in
> California, for example, can be bought here for only $200 k.[/color]

Yikers, more bad news for GM.

Here's info from a link to a law firm that is advertising on Google:

"Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo is investigating claims in connection with a

class action against General Motors Corporation concerning DEX-COOL.

Customers complain that DEX-COOL forms a sludge-like substance that clogs

their vehicles' cooling systems causing them to overheat, and that DEX-COOL

corrodes all parts of the engine it comes in contact with including the

heater core, water pump, hoses, cap, upper and lower intake manifold gaskets,

thermostat, and engine block."

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:37:03 -0500, "Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Yikers, more bad news for GM.
>
> Here's info from a link to a law firm that is advertising on Google:
>
>"Girard Gibbs & De Bartolomeo is investigating claims in connection with a
>
>class action against General Motors Corporation concerning DEX-COOL.
>
>Customers complain that DEX-COOL forms a sludge-like substance that clogs
>
>their vehicles' cooling systems causing them to overheat, and that DEX-COOL
>
>corrodes all parts of the engine it comes in contact with including the
>
>heater core, water pump, hoses, cap, upper and lower intake manifold gaskets,
>
>thermostat, and engine block."[/color]

wow.. Is this the bullet that will finish off GM ?
I DO have that experience with DEXCOOL.

"RT" wrote:
[color=blue]
> wow.. Is this the bullet that will finish off GM ? I DO have that
> experience with DEXCOOL.[/color]


I hope not. I hope GM survives, even though I only buy
Toyota.

DEX-COOL does sound like aspartame for cars! I wonder
if GM drivers could use Toyota "Super Long Life Coolant" in their
GM cars, in place of DEX-COOL?

On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:59:03 -0500, "Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"RT" wrote:
>[color=green]
>> wow.. Is this the bullet that will finish off GM ? I DO have that
>> experience with DEXCOOL.[/color]
>
>
> I hope not. I hope GM survives, even though I only buy
>Toyota.
>
> DEX-COOL does sound like aspartame for cars! I wonder
>if GM drivers could use Toyota "Super Long Life Coolant" in their
>GM cars, in place of DEX-COOL?[/color]

I just can't imagine gm not knowing before hand about this stuff.
I personally switch over to the green stuff after a few years. It's
not that hard to flush a cooling system.