Can somebody verify this for me? W58 Tranny

I have been looking for a W58 Manual trnny for my '86 Supra

One page I ran across says I have one right under my nose...in my '85
Celica GT-S!

Now I was going to try to sell the car (the engine has 160,000 on it and
runs great) or have been toying with trying to fix it One More Time (about
$300) but I don't want to fix it again just to have something else break.

But, if what I read is true, the W58 was used in the '83-'85 Celica GT-S,
84-86 Supra, and the '86.5-92 Supra. If I can use this tranny in my Supra,
I won't feel too bad about sending the rest to the scrap yard.

Now, if only the darn wheels fit... (They don't...)


--
A young girl I know told me I drive like an old man

I told her, actually, I drive like Mario Andretti.
It's just that too many other people on the road
drive like Paul Tracy...

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 03:14:16 +0000, Hachiroku wrote:
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> I have been looking for a W58 Manual trnny for my '86 Supra
>
> One page I ran across says I have one right under my nose...in my '85
> Celica GT-S!
>
> Now I was going to try to sell the car (the engine has 160,000 on it and
> runs great) or have been toying with trying to fix it One More Time (about
> $300) but I don't want to fix it again just to have something else break.
>
> But, if what I read is true, the W58 was used in the '83-'85 Celica GT-S,
> 84-86 Supra, and the '86.5-92 Supra. If I can use this tranny in my Supra,
> I won't feel too bad about sending the rest to the scrap yard.
>
> Now, if only the darn wheels fit... (They don't...)[/color]

Oh, Boy! Also found this:

W58 -3.768 3.285 1.894 1.275 1 0.783
35kg 230 82-98 Supra (5M-GE, 7M-GE, 2JZ-GE), 86 Supra/Soarer/Cressida
(1G-GTE), 82-85 Celica (US 22R-*)

In 92 (or 94) they changed the size of the Input shaft for the JZ engine.
So, it looks like this may work! The tranny is in good shape, it may need
an output bearing or a throw out bearing. Easy to do once I get it out of
the car.


--
A young girl I know told me I drive like an old man

I told her, actually, I drive like Mario Andretti.
It's just that too many other people on the road
drive like Paul Tracy...

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.14.03.25.13.269387@ae86.GTS...[color=blue]
>I have been looking for a W58 Manual trnny for my '86 Supra[/color]

Get some therapy

:-)

Natalie

On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:30:30 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.02.14.03.25.13.269387@ae86.GTS...[color=green]
>>I have been looking for a W58 Manual trnny for my '86 Supra[/color]
>
> Get some therapy
>
> :-)
>
> Natalie[/color]

Wait...I thought this was a *Toyota* Newsgroup!!!!

I had a line on an '88 with a manual and good body parts, $300, and a week
before I had the cash the kid's landlady had it towed to God knows where.
I called all the impound yards in the area but nobody had it (or heard of
it) I really wanted the tranny.

Well, it turns out the door was the wrong one, my fender's not that bad,
and I have a tranny right in my own back yard!


--
A young girl I know told me I drive like an old man

I told her, actually, I drive like Mario Andretti.
It's just that too many other people on the road
drive like Paul Tracy...

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.14.03.56.10.610783@ae86.GTS...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:30:30 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
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>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.02.14.03.25.13.269387@ae86.GTS...[color=darkred]
>>>I have been looking for a W58 Manual trnny for my '86 Supra[/color]
>>
>> Get some therapy
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
> Wait...I thought this was a *Toyota* Newsgroup!!!!
>
> I had a line on an '88 with a manual and good body parts, $300, and a week
> before I had the cash the kid's landlady had it towed to God knows where.
> I called all the impound yards in the area but nobody had it (or heard of
> it) I really wanted the tranny.
>
> Well, it turns out the door was the wrong one, my fender's not that bad,
> and I have a tranny right in my own back yard!
>
>[/color]

You still need therapy

Natalie

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.02.14.03.56.10.610783@ae86.GTS...[color=green]
>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:30:30 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2006.02.14.03.25.13.269387@ae86.GTS...
>>>>I have been looking for a W58 Manual trnny for my '86 Supra
>>>
>>> Get some therapy
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Natalie[/color]
>>
>> Wait...I thought this was a *Toyota* Newsgroup!!!!
>>
>> I had a line on an '88 with a manual and good body parts, $300, and a week
>> before I had the cash the kid's landlady had it towed to God knows where.
>> I called all the impound yards in the area but nobody had it (or heard of
>> it) I really wanted the tranny.
>>
>> Well, it turns out the door was the wrong one, my fender's not that bad,
>> and I have a tranny right in my own back yard!
>>
>>[/color]
>
> You still need therapy
>
> Natalie[/color]

I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak! :)

Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
get one of THOSE??? :)

--
A young girl I know told me I drive like an old man

I told her, actually, I drive like Mario Andretti.
It's just that too many other people on the road
drive like Paul Tracy...

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.15.01.51.49.846051@ae86.GTS...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.02.14.03.56.10.610783@ae86.GTS...[color=darkred]
>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:30:30 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2006.02.14.03.25.13.269387@ae86.GTS...
>>>>>I have been looking for a W58 Manual trnny for my '86 Supra
>>>>
>>>> Get some therapy
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> Wait...I thought this was a *Toyota* Newsgroup!!!!
>>>
>>> I had a line on an '88 with a manual and good body parts, $300, and a
>>> week
>>> before I had the cash the kid's landlady had it towed to God knows
>>> where.
>>> I called all the impound yards in the area but nobody had it (or heard
>>> of
>>> it) I really wanted the tranny.
>>>
>>> Well, it turns out the door was the wrong one, my fender's not that bad,
>>> and I have a tranny right in my own back yard!
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>> You still need therapy
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
> I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak!
> :)
>
> Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
> get one of THOSE??? :)
>[/color]

GAH!

Natalie

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 21:07:34 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.02.15.01.51.49.846051@ae86.GTS...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2006.02.14.03.56.10.610783@ae86.GTS...
>>>> On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 22:30:30 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>> news:pan.2006.02.14.03.25.13.269387@ae86.GTS...
>>>>>>I have been looking for a W58 Manual trnny for my '86 Supra
>>>>>
>>>>> Get some therapy
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>> Wait...I thought this was a *Toyota* Newsgroup!!!!
>>>>
>>>> I had a line on an '88 with a manual and good body parts, $300, and a
>>>> week
>>>> before I had the cash the kid's landlady had it towed to God knows
>>>> where.
>>>> I called all the impound yards in the area but nobody had it (or heard
>>>> of
>>>> it) I really wanted the tranny.
>>>>
>>>> Well, it turns out the door was the wrong one, my fender's not that bad,
>>>> and I have a tranny right in my own back yard!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You still need therapy
>>>
>>> Natalie[/color]
>>
>> I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak!
>> :)
>>
>> Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
>> get one of THOSE??? :)
>>[/color]
>
> GAH!
>
> Natalie[/color]

LOL! The smell of Gear oil overwhelming you? :)


--
A young girl I know told me I drive like an old man

I told her, actually, I drive like Mario Andretti.
It's just that too many other people on the road
drive like Paul Tracy...

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.02.15.01.51.49.846051@ae86.GTS...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>[color=green]
>><snipped>
>>
>> You still need therapy
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
> I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak!
> :)
>
> Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
> get one of THOSE??? :)
>[/color]

Does the AE hachi roku need a new motor? Besides the Corolla GTS, check out
FX 16 GTS and MR2's as donors.

happy motoring!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
news:e0873$43f2c873$180fead6$17429@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.02.15.01.51.49.846051@ae86.GTS...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>><snipped>
>>>
>>> You still need therapy
>>>
>>> Natalie[/color]
>>
>> I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak!
>> :)
>>
>> Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
>> get one of THOSE??? :)
>>[/color]
>
> Does the AE hachi roku need a new motor? Besides the Corolla GTS, check
> out FX 16 GTS and MR2's as donors.
>
> happy motoring!
> --
>
> Ray O[/color]

Ray, you enabler, you...

Natalie

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.02.15.01.51.49.846051@ae86.GTS...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>><snipped>
>>>
>>> You still need therapy
>>>
>>> Natalie[/color]
>>
>> I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak!
>> :)
>>
>> Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
>> get one of THOSE??? :)
>>[/color]
>
> Does the AE hachi roku need a new motor? Besides the Corolla GTS, check
> out FX 16 GTS and MR2's as donors.
>
> happy motoring!
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

Well, it *could*. It's got 258,000 on it and is perhaps a 'little' tired.
The OP doesn't quite get to where it used to, but rarely gets below 1/2 or
1/3 on the guage.

Still goes like a bat out of hell, though! :)

And, yeah, Wicked Doll had an FX16...I was talking about buying it from her
but she gave it to her Mother... :(...
And my BIL had an '86 MR2 back in '87. I got to drive it a couple times.
Still has my wife's knuckle marks in the dash! You know what they say, Get
in, Sit down, Shut up and HANG ON!!!

One of the most truly audacious cars I have ever driven, and I have had my
hands on Porsche's and Jags. Definitely MUCH more refined than a Porsche!

"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958DIEspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
> news:e0873$43f2c873$180fead6$17429@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.02.15.01.51.49.846051@ae86.GTS...[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>>
>>>><snipped>
>>>>
>>>> You still need therapy
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak!
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
>>> get one of THOSE??? :)
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Does the AE hachi roku need a new motor? Besides the Corolla GTS, check
>> out FX 16 GTS and MR2's as donors.
>>
>> happy motoring!
>> --
>>
>> Ray O[/color]
>
> Ray, you enabler, you...
>
> Natalie[/color]

I thought this was a Toyota group?

BTW, where the heck is Nick when you need him? If anyone here knew anything
about assembling a Frankenstein, it was Nick!

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"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958DIEspammersDIE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
> news:e0873$43f2c873$180fead6$17429@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.02.15.01.51.49.846051@ae86.GTS...[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>>
>>>><snipped>
>>>>
>>>> You still need therapy
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak!
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
>>> get one of THOSE??? :)
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Does the AE hachi roku need a new motor? Besides the Corolla GTS, check
>> out FX 16 GTS and MR2's as donors.
>>
>> happy motoring!
>> --
>>
>> Ray O[/color]
>
> Ray, you enabler, you...
>
> Natalie[/color]

Gotta keep the customers happy!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:AKFIf.6734$lG.4080@trndny01...[color=blue]
>
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
> news:e0873$43f2c873$180fead6$17429@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.02.15.01.51.49.846051@ae86.GTS...[color=darkred]
>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>>
>>>><snipped>
>>>>
>>>> You still need therapy
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak!
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
>>> get one of THOSE??? :)
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Does the AE hachi roku need a new motor? Besides the Corolla GTS, check
>> out FX 16 GTS and MR2's as donors.
>>
>> happy motoring!
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
> Well, it *could*. It's got 258,000 on it and is perhaps a 'little' tired.
> The OP doesn't quite get to where it used to, but rarely gets below 1/2 or
> 1/3 on the guage.
>
> Still goes like a bat out of hell, though! :)
>
> And, yeah, Wicked Doll had an FX16...I was talking about buying it from
> her but she gave it to her Mother... :(...
> And my BIL had an '86 MR2 back in '87. I got to drive it a couple times.
> Still has my wife's knuckle marks in the dash! You know what they say, Get
> in, Sit down, Shut up and HANG ON!!!
>
> One of the most truly audacious cars I have ever driven, and I have had my
> hands on Porsche's and Jags. Definitely MUCH more refined than a Porsche!
>[/color]

The first and second generation MR2's were a lot of fun to drive. I have
not driven the current generation.

When MR2 sales slowed down at the end of the first generation's production,
they were sitting at the port and on dealer's lots so everyone in our office
had to take one for a company car. With 4 kids at home, the MR2 was not the
most practical car for me so I put off putting in my order and got stuck
with an automatic. Oh well, it was still fun, especially on Route 2!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:AKFIf.6734$lG.4080@trndny01...[color=green]
>>
>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
>> news:e0873$43f2c873$180fead6$17429@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2006.02.15.01.51.49.846051@ae86.GTS...
>>>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:45:19 -0500, Wickeddoll® wrote:
>>>>
>>>>><snipped>
>>>>>
>>>>> You still need therapy
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>> I *NEED* an '88 Supra with a 5-speed and a fuel tank that doens't leak!
>>>> :)
>>>>
>>>> Oh, and a 4A-GE engine with only 136,000 miles on it. Know where I can
>>>> get one of THOSE??? :)
>>>>
>>>
>>> Does the AE hachi roku need a new motor? Besides the Corolla GTS, check
>>> out FX 16 GTS and MR2's as donors.
>>>
>>> happy motoring!
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O
>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Well, it *could*. It's got 258,000 on it and is perhaps a 'little' tired.
>> The OP doesn't quite get to where it used to, but rarely gets below 1/2
>> or 1/3 on the guage.
>>
>> Still goes like a bat out of hell, though! :)
>>
>> And, yeah, Wicked Doll had an FX16...I was talking about buying it from
>> her but she gave it to her Mother... :(...
>> And my BIL had an '86 MR2 back in '87. I got to drive it a couple times.
>> Still has my wife's knuckle marks in the dash! You know what they say,
>> Get in, Sit down, Shut up and HANG ON!!!
>>
>> One of the most truly audacious cars I have ever driven, and I have had
>> my hands on Porsche's and Jags. Definitely MUCH more refined than a
>> Porsche!
>>[/color]
>
> The first and second generation MR2's were a lot of fun to drive. I have
> not driven the current generation.
>
> When MR2 sales slowed down at the end of the first generation's
> production, they were sitting at the port and on dealer's lots so everyone
> in our office had to take one for a company car. With 4 kids at home, the
> MR2 was not the most practical car for me so I put off putting in my order
> and got stuck with an automatic. Oh well, it was still fun, especially on
> Route 2!
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

Oh, you poor man...FORCED to tkae an MR-2?!?!?!

I would have been jumping for the chance! And, had I known sales were so
slow...

YEEEEE HAAAA!!