Re: ford developing hybrid 300% more efficient than toyota
Never said the was NO available fuels. You may want to reread the part that
says no fuel that can come anywhere close to replacing gasoline as a motor
fuel in the next 50 years, none. All ANY of the alternate fuels can do is
REDUCE the need for MORE gasoline in the interim. ;)
Re: ford developing hybrid 300% more efficient than toyota
It is always so interesting to see prognoses about major changes
There are so many cocurrent events helping alternative power
alternatives along
Price of fuel is a major factor
It is only recently price became really noticable
In those few years some major breakthroughs have happened so I guess
the alternative powersources will begin to flourish and more quickly
than you expect
If you can buy a car that has less - a lot less - moving parts than
most current cars
Car that can last a lot longer with a lot less maintenance the choice
is simple
Only thing really stopping the change is production capacity
Obviously the road is not completely clear but one thing is for certain
that the next car you will by will have changed more in a short time
than ever before you have made a buy
How quickly the major changes will happen is hard to predict
One thing is for certain that the last decade has been one of
experiments and dabbling at alternatives
The coming decade will see a lot of change and real productions
In 10 years time we will probably not be thinking if we buy a new type
of car but when if you have not already got one by then
Re: ford developing hybrid 300% more efficient than toyota
300% more efficient than Toyota? <lol>
Some how I think this 300% number is a marketing ploy rather than a reality.
Anyone think a bulky UPS truck or F-150 will be more efficient by 300% than
a Toyota hybrid anything? If the EPA is involved, the numbers are already
off. Prius gets 60mpg according to the EPA. Hah! Try maybe a more
realistic 44 mpg as an average (by their owner's forums).
Nice try Ford. Bringing back all your laid-off workers to build these?
(shhh!!!...a birdie told me chevy is bringing out a 400% better model as
well)
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> I switched from chemically treating my pool to making chlorine on-sight (also
> makes hydrogen by the way) and the system does work. Not only is it cost
> effective ($15 a month in electricity versus 200 pounds of solid chlorineat
> $2.00 per pound) the unit shocks the water continually (another savings of
> about $150 in chlorine specific to shock). How difficult is it to operate?
> If you can turn a little dial it's not complicated at all.[/color]
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> I switched from chemically treating my pool to making chlorine on-sight
> (also
> makes hydrogen by the way) and the system does work. Not only is it cost
> effective ($15 a month in electricity versus 200 pounds of solid chlorine
> at
> $2.00 per pound) the unit shocks the water continually (another savings of
> about $150 in chlorine specific to shock). How difficult is it to operate?
> If you can turn a little dial it's not complicated at all.[/color]
What materials are you using for your electrodes?
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Solid platinum. Not plated. Are you interested in doing the same or are you
already up to speed?
Re: ford developing hybrid 300% more efficient than toyota
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> But alas you too are funding terrorists or tyrannical regimes, enlarging[/color]
our[color=blue]
> trade deficit, just as you did when you bought any foreign car and are
> contributing to global warming WHENEVER you drive any vehicle, if you
> believe that is here your money is going. ;)[/color]
It's a matter of degree. It's not practical to walk or bike everywhere and
bus service here absolutely sucks, so I still need personal motorized
transportation. However, I don't need a gas-guzzling V8 and low-teens
quarter-miles and I make my choices appropriately, rather than simply
ignoring the problem.
I can't solve all the world's problems by myself but I don't have to give my
wants, vanities and insecurities free reign to make them worse.
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> "dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
> news:43f3cec4$0$17684$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com...[color=green]
> > "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> > news:HmCdnUVXDMorJm7eUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=darkred]
> >> Why, so you can get run over in you little 120 MPG cars buy one of[/color][/color][/color]
those[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> trucks, that buyers prefer today, that can get 60 MPG ? Besides once[/color]
> > all[color=darkred]
> >> vehicles can get really high fuel economy the price of gas will double[/color][/color][/color]
or[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> triple to maintain the profit margins for the oil speculators. ;)
> >>
> >> mike hunt[/color]
> >
> > I prefer not to fund terrorists or tyrannical regimes, enlarge our trade
> > deficit or contribute to global warming. That's where your money is
> > going.
> > Enjoy that GT, your grandchildren will enjoy the consequences.
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]
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To be more specific the electrodes are solid platinum/iridium alloy and have
an expected lifespan of 20 years. They are fragile and expensive but since
the power unit reverses polarity every so often I don't have to get involved
with cleaning them as often.
When we came back from a two week vacation it was nice to see the pool water
as sparkling clean as when we left. My son's only obligation was to remove
leaves and little critters.
I also don't use cyranuric acid (stabilizer) or algaecide. I have another
unit that disperses copper, zinc and silver ions. Again, it's as simple as
dialing in what you need.
So, is everything just rosey? Not exactly, but I already knew total
alkalinity would slowly rise and I'd have to do something about it. I have
to add about 3 to 4 oz of muriatic acid once a month. For the four months
the pool is open I use a pint. How about salt? Salt level needs to be
between 2500ppm and 3500ppm. From experience I know I would have to dump 18"
of water to reduce the salt level 500 ppm. I keep the salt level just under
3000 and the water is remarkably soft feeling to the touch. Keep in mind
that just because the water evaporates doesn't mean more salt is needed.
Once the water is broken down, the chlorine and sodium reunite back to salt.
Cool, huh? As far as the hydrogen being unsafe; if the pool filter pump
fails the chlorinator will overheat and shut down.
Lastly, because I also use a ionizer (copper level .2 ppm) and no
stabilizer, chlorine level can be between .4 and .6 ppm instead of 1.5 - 3
ppm. My plants around the pool are much happier.
Re: ford developing hybrid 300% more efficient than toyota
"M. MacDonald" <mmacdonald@bc.cc.ca.us> wrote in message
news:3V1Jf.64$aN2.26641@okeanos.csu.net...[color=blue]
> 300% more efficient than Toyota? <lol>
>
> Some how I think this 300% number is a marketing ploy rather than a
> reality. Anyone think a bulky UPS truck or F-150 will be more efficient by
> 300% than a Toyota hybrid anything? If the EPA is involved, the numbers
> are already off. Prius gets 60mpg according to the EPA. Hah! Try maybe
> a more realistic 44 mpg as an average (by their owner's forums).
>
> Nice try Ford. Bringing back all your laid-off workers to build these?
>
> (shhh!!!...a birdie told me chevy is bringing out a 400% better model as
> well)
>
> Mack
>
>[/color]
When I drove crosscountry my worst mileage was in Nebraska and Colorado.
High altitude, less oxygen, 75 mph + . About 43 mpg. Most of my driving is
200-300 feet above sea level and I honestly get 52-57 in the spring thru
fall. Today was a very nice 50 degrees and and it was registering almost
59mpg. Ok, so it has it's ups and downs :)
Re: ford developing hybrid 300% more efficient than toyota
"Scott in Florida" <MoveOn@outa.here> wrote in message
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> Where did you get your rig?
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida[/color]
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From a company in Utah. Price-less Products.
Hayward has a chlorinator too that works on the same principle. There's a
few others too.
Other units need 5000 ppm salt but cost less initially. I can taste salt at
3750 ppm. That's how I know how much water to dump and then refill to bring
the level down to where it should be. I got carried away and dumped 40
pounds of rock salt too much. $4.00 down the drain...
The price tag may be hard to swallow but once you cut the check it's done
and over with. No more storing, no more breathing in, no more adding stuff
to offset stuff you had to put in. No more clarifiers. No more pH bounce. No
more worrying about total dissolved solvents. The water will have more
equilibrium to your body because neither the water nor your body will try to
pull or absorb salt. Hey, no more wrinkly fingers!! You might even be able
to float on your back!
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