COROLLA '03 HEADLIGHTS COMES ON WHEN IT IS VERY COLD

I have a 2003 Corolla and the head lights comes on by themselves when
it is very cold. I took it to the dealership and they could not
identify the problem ! Does anyone know of any TSB from Toyota to fix
this problem. I realise that there a few other people with the same
problem. I wonder why Toyota is not placing a recall to resolve this
problem to avoid people being stranded in cold perhaps in the middle of
nowhere. Thanks for the Cell phone.

Some one told me that the problem may be with the headlight switch,
another person told me that it may be with the headlight relay, some
other person told me to snip a wire to Day Light Running relay and put
a switch to enable or disable DRL probably to resolve this issue .
Before I try any one of these, I need some reliable advice from someone
who fixed it of having previous experience of resolving this weird
strange situation.Please advice on this matter and it will be greatly
appreciated.


Thanks.

Tech

I have a 2003 Corolla and the head lights comes on by themselves when
it is very cold. I took it to the dealership and they could not
identify the problem ! Does anyone know of any TSB from Toyota to fix
this problem. I realise that there a few other people with the same
problem. I wonder why Toyota is not placing a recall to resolve this
problem to avoid people being stranded in cold perhaps in the middle of

nowhere. Thanks for the Cell phone.

Some one told me that the problem may be with the headlight switch,
another person told me that it may be with the headlight relay, some
other person told me to snip a wire to Day Light Running relay and put
a switch to enable or disable DRL probably to resolve this issue .
Before I try any one of these, I need some reliable advice from someone

who fixed it or having previous experience of resolving this weird
strange situation. Please advice on this matter and it will be greatly
appreciated.


Thanks.


Tech

On 24 Feb 2006 07:21:21 -0800, "tech" <compuspecialist@gmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>I have a 2003 Corolla and the head lights comes on by themselves when
>it is very cold. I took it to the dealership and they could not
>identify the problem ! Does anyone know of any TSB from Toyota to fix
>this problem. I realise that there a few other people with the same
>problem. I wonder why Toyota is not placing a recall to resolve this
>problem to avoid people being stranded in cold perhaps in the middle of
>nowhere. Thanks for the Cell phone.
>
>Some one told me that the problem may be with the headlight switch,
>another person told me that it may be with the headlight relay, some
>other person told me to snip a wire to Day Light Running relay and put
>a switch to enable or disable DRL probably to resolve this issue .
>Before I try any one of these, I need some reliable advice from someone
>who fixed it of having previous experience of resolving this weird
>strange situation.Please advice on this matter and it will be greatly
>appreciated.
>[/color]

TSB EL003-03 addresses the issue of headlights coming on when switch
is off.
HTH
--
Mr.E

"tech" <compuspecialist@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140794481.071419.218670@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>I have a 2003 Corolla and the head lights comes on by themselves when
> it is very cold. I took it to the dealership and they could not
> identify the problem ! Does anyone know of any TSB from Toyota to fix
> this problem. I realise that there a few other people with the same
> problem. I wonder why Toyota is not placing a recall to resolve this
> problem to avoid people being stranded in cold perhaps in the middle of
> nowhere. Thanks for the Cell phone.
>
> Some one told me that the problem may be with the headlight switch,
> another person told me that it may be with the headlight relay, some
> other person told me to snip a wire to Day Light Running relay and put
> a switch to enable or disable DRL probably to resolve this issue .
> Before I try any one of these, I need some reliable advice from someone
> who fixed it of having previous experience of resolving this weird
> strange situation.Please advice on this matter and it will be greatly
> appreciated.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tech
>[/color]

There is a service bulletin regarding this condition, issued 3/13/03. The
dealership should know how to search for it.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Ray O wrote:
[color=blue]
> There is a service bulletin regarding this condition, issued 3/13/03. The
> dealership should know how to search for it.[/color]

Out of curiosity, is it only the '03 that is prone to this issue, or has it
been reported in the '04 and newer?

"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:3yyxlxcktzvu$.dlg@hightech.misfit...[color=blue]
> Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>> There is a service bulletin regarding this condition, issued 3/13/03.
>> The
>> dealership should know how to search for it.[/color]
>
> Out of curiosity, is it only the '03 that is prone to this issue, or has
> it
> been reported in the '04 and newer?[/color]

I got the original information from the NHTSA web site. I went back and
looked for 2004 Corollas and did not see the information.

If you want info on TSB's for a specific year, you can search at
[url]http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/tsb/tsbsearch.cfm[/url]


--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

[email]Mr.E@totally.inva[/email]lid wrote:[color=blue]
> On 24 Feb 2006 07:21:21 -0800, "tech" <compuspecialist@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >I have a 2003 Corolla and the head lights comes on by themselves when
> >it is very cold. I took it to the dealership and they could not
> >identify the problem ! Does anyone know of any TSB from Toyota to fix
> >this problem. I realise that there a few other people with the same
> >problem. I wonder why Toyota is not placing a recall to resolve this
> >problem to avoid people being stranded in cold perhaps in the middle of
> >nowhere. Thanks for the Cell phone.
> >
> >Some one told me that the problem may be with the headlight switch,
> >another person told me that it may be with the headlight relay, some
> >other person told me to snip a wire to Day Light Running relay and put
> >a switch to enable or disable DRL probably to resolve this issue .
> >Before I try any one of these, I need some reliable advice from someone
> >who fixed it of having previous experience of resolving this weird
> >strange situation.Please advice on this matter and it will be greatly
> >appreciated.
> >[/color]
>
> TSB EL003-03 addresses the issue of headlights coming on when switch
> is off.
> HTH
> --
> Mr.E[/color]

Thanks for the reply. It is much appreciated. Where could one get the
TSB EL003-03 ? I did a search on the Internet to know about this TSB
but the links were broken !

Do you know of any site from where I retieve this information, besides
pay sites.

Thanks very much.

Tech

Could you please tell which one causes this problem. Is it is DRL,
Headlight Relay or Headlight stalk switch.

Thank you.

Tech

"tech" <compuspecialist@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140825425.192594.82050@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> [email]Mr.E@totally.inva[/email]lid wrote:[color=green]
>> On 24 Feb 2006 07:21:21 -0800, "tech" <compuspecialist@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >I have a 2003 Corolla and the head lights comes on by themselves when
>> >it is very cold. I took it to the dealership and they could not
>> >identify the problem ! Does anyone know of any TSB from Toyota to fix
>> >this problem. I realise that there a few other people with the same
>> >problem. I wonder why Toyota is not placing a recall to resolve this
>> >problem to avoid people being stranded in cold perhaps in the middle of
>> >nowhere. Thanks for the Cell phone.
>> >
>> >Some one told me that the problem may be with the headlight switch,
>> >another person told me that it may be with the headlight relay, some
>> >other person told me to snip a wire to Day Light Running relay and put
>> >a switch to enable or disable DRL probably to resolve this issue .
>> >Before I try any one of these, I need some reliable advice from someone
>> >who fixed it of having previous experience of resolving this weird
>> >strange situation.Please advice on this matter and it will be greatly
>> >appreciated.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> TSB EL003-03 addresses the issue of headlights coming on when switch
>> is off.
>> HTH
>> --
>> Mr.E[/color]
>
> Thanks for the reply. It is much appreciated. Where could one get the
> TSB EL003-03 ? I did a search on the Internet to know about this TSB
> but the links were broken !
>
> Do you know of any site from where I retieve this information, besides
> pay sites.
>
> Thanks very much.
>
> Tech[/color]

Both Toyota and the NHTSA sites are pay sites. My recommendation is to ask
nicely at your local Toyota dealer is you can have a copy. Don't go first
thing in the morning or in the evening when they are busy with customers
dropping off or picking up cars - pick a time when they are slow and are
more apt to help you out.

If you go back to the same dealership that was unable to diagnose the car
when you first brought it in, you can diplomatically ask if the TSB about
the condition applies to your car, or pick another dealership.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)[color=blue]
>[/color]

It costs almost $40.00 to get this information from that site ! Does
anyone know what exactly causes this strange weird problem. Will
snipping a particular wire of DRL to disable with a switch rectify this
problem? I read a lot about a yellow wire switch method but it doesn't
necessarily addresses issue whether or not such an approch would
resolve the Headlights coming on by iteself when it gets very cold for
Corolla 03. Toyato must have placed a recall on it but amazingly enough
when I called Toyota Cetral office in CA , they don't have a recall on
this weird situation reported by many.

Would you please tell what does it say in the TSB EL003-03 about this
condition as people have to pay to get this information for a
presumably manufacturing defect.

Thank you for the information. I find that people have to pay $40.00
for this TSB. Why would people have to pay for Toyota manufacturing
defects? Could you please tell what causes this weird condition?

On 24 Feb 2006 16:27:50 -0800, "tech" <compuspecialist@gmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Would you please tell what does it say in the TSB EL003-03 about this
>condition as people have to pay to get this information for a
>presumably manufacturing defect.[/color]

A copy of the TSB is available for free in the Toyotas_Only Yahoo
group. Go join and go to the Files section. It is in PDF format.

--

Scott in Florida

On 24 Feb 2006 16:25:04 -0800, "tech" <compuspecialist@gmail.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>It costs almost $40.00 to get this information from that site ! Does
>anyone know what exactly causes this strange weird problem. Will
>snipping a particular wire of DRL to disable with a switch rectify this
>problem? I read a lot about a yellow wire switch method but it doesn't
>necessarily addresses issue whether or not such an approch would
>resolve the Headlights coming on by iteself when it gets very cold for
>Corolla 03. Toyato must have placed a recall on it but amazingly enough
>when I called Toyota Cetral office in CA , they don't have a recall on
>this weird situation reported by many.[/color]


Looks like it is the Headlight switch itself....as I said go to the
Yahoo Group Toyotoas_Only and print it out.

You have to join the group.

--

Scott in Florida

Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> "tech" <compuspecialist@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1140825425.192594.82050@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >
> > [email]Mr.E@totally.inva[/email]lid wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> On 24 Feb 2006 07:21:21 -0800, "tech" <compuspecialist@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I have a 2003 Corolla and the head lights comes on by themselves when
> >> >it is very cold. I took it to the dealership and they could not
> >> >identify the problem ! Does anyone know of any TSB from Toyota to fix
> >> >this problem. I realise that there a few other people with the same
> >> >problem. I wonder why Toyota is not placing a recall to resolve this
> >> >problem to avoid people being stranded in cold perhaps in the middle of
> >> >nowhere. Thanks for the Cell phone.
> >> >
> >> >Some one told me that the problem may be with the headlight switch,
> >> >another person told me that it may be with the headlight relay, some
> >> >other person told me to snip a wire to Day Light Running relay and put
> >> >a switch to enable or disable DRL probably to resolve this issue .
> >> >Before I try any one of these, I need some reliable advice from someone
> >> >who fixed it of having previous experience of resolving this weird
> >> >strange situation.Please advice on this matter and it will be greatly
> >> >appreciated.
> >> >
> >>
> >> TSB EL003-03 addresses the issue of headlights coming on when switch
> >> is off.
> >> HTH
> >> --
> >> Mr.E[/color]
> >
> > Thanks for the reply. It is much appreciated. Where could one get the
> > TSB EL003-03 ? I did a search on the Internet to know about this TSB
> > but the links were broken !
> >
> > Do you know of any site from where I retieve this information, besides
> > pay sites.
> >
> > Thanks very much.
> >
> > Tech[/color]
>
> Both Toyota and the NHTSA sites are pay sites. My recommendation is to ask
> nicely at your local Toyota dealer is you can have a copy. Don't go first
> thing in the morning or in the evening when they are busy with customers
> dropping off or picking up cars - pick a time when they are slow and are
> more apt to help you out.
>
> If you go back to the same dealership that was unable to diagnose the car
> when you first brought it in, you can diplomatically ask if the TSB about
> the condition applies to your car, or pick another dealership.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[color=green]
> >[/color][/color]

Thanks for the suggestion. I already tried it by calling a Toyota
dealership and requested nicely for the TSB in question. They told me
that there are a lot of customers to lookafter and I need to bring the
car to diagnose for a fee of $75.00.They know that customer may fix the
problem if the TSB content is revealed. The alrming thing is that this
condition is a safty issue as draining the battery by this
manufacturing defect could make people stranded.in the deep cold.

I did a lot of reading on the Internet and there are a lot of ways to
disable the DRL on Corolla 03. Will this solve this weird problem?

Thank you ,

Tech