Total immobilization

You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.

In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.

If you have a late model car it probably cannot be started without the right
key. Many keys have a chip in them. That is why thieves resort to
carjacking and towing. Put it in a garage.


"David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
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> You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
> the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
> scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>
> In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
> distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
> folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]

Remove the Microprocessor? ;)

mike hunt


"David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
news:da0vv19g0oi7fblausl96dj3k71oa51n3n@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
> the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
> scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>
> In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
> distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
> folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:7%LLf.3199$S25.1167@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> If you have a late model car it probably cannot be started without the
> right key. Many keys have a chip in them. That is why thieves resort to
> carjacking and towing. Put it in a garage.[/color]

Finally, something sensible from you. One shouldn't have a good vehicle if
they can't afford to PROPERLY garage it, most of the time.

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>
>
> "David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
> news:da0vv19g0oi7fblausl96dj3k71oa51n3n@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
>> the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
>> scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>>
>> In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
>> distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
>> folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]
>
>[/color]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:09:13 +0000, David J <david@btelecom.invalid>
wrote:[color=blue]
> What would
>folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]

Insure it.

In article <7%LLf.3199$S25.1167@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> If you have a late model car it probably cannot be started without the right
> key. Many keys have a chip in them. That is why thieves resort to
> carjacking and towing. Put it in a garage.
>
>
> "David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
> news:da0vv19g0oi7fblausl96dj3k71oa51n3n@4ax.com...[color=green]
> > You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
> > the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
> > scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
> >
> > In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
> > distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
> > folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color][/color]

Yes, an immobilizer key. A clever device. You might ask how does it
work, how does it get power as the key does not have a battery.
--
"Welcome to President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, and my fellow astronauts."

Al Gore

"David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
news:da0vv19g0oi7fblausl96dj3k71oa51n3n@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
> the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
> scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>
> In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
> distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
> folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]

In order from simple to difficult, you can try

EFI main fuse
battery
Access the fuel pump and unplug it
steering wheel (follow airbag precautions!)
ECU
starter
driveshaft (s)
transmission
engine

Be aware that NOTHING is GUARANTEED to beat a car thief. Disabling the car
will discourage thieves but will not absolutely make it theft proof. Even
if you removed everything I listed above, all a determined thief has to do
is use a tow truck to get the car.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"The Benevolent dbu" <relaxan.d@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
news:relaxan.d-D91428.17205724022006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...

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> Yes, an immobilizer key. A clever device. You might ask how does it
> work, how does it get power as the key does not have a battery.
> --[/color]

When you insert the key in the ignition, it is very close to the
transponder...
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

In article <22d1d$43ff9e1e$44a4a10d$20749@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:
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> "The Benevolent dbu" <relaxan.d@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
> news:relaxan.d-D91428.17205724022006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>
> <snipped>
>[color=green]
> > Yes, an immobilizer key. A clever device. You might ask how does it
> > work, how does it get power as the key does not have a battery.
> > --[/color]
>
> When you insert the key in the ignition, it is very close to the
> transponder...[/color]

But how does it get it's power to operate?

Here is a clue: [url]http://www.spybusters.com/Great_Seal_Bug.html[/url]

It cannot be compromised. The crook needs to take apart the dash and
then know which wires to connect. Forget it crooks.
--
"Welcome to President Clinton, Mrs. Clinton, and my fellow astronauts."

Al Gore

"David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
news:da0vv19g0oi7fblausl96dj3k71oa51n3n@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
> the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
> scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>
> In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
> distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
> folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]

A For Sale sign and a large oil puddle.

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:53:22 -0600, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:
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>
>"David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
>news:da0vv19g0oi7fblausl96dj3k71oa51n3n@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
>> the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
>> scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>>
>> In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
>> distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
>> folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]
>
>In order from simple to difficult, you can try
>
>EFI main fuse
>battery
>Access the fuel pump and unplug it
>steering wheel (follow airbag precautions!)
>ECU
>starter
>driveshaft (s)
>transmission
>engine
>
>Be aware that NOTHING is GUARANTEED to beat a car thief. Disabling the car
>will discourage thieves but will not absolutely make it theft proof. Even
>if you removed everything I listed above, all a determined thief has to do
>is use a tow truck to get the car.[/color]

I'm with Art & Sharx35 on this one. It's more effective to garage the
vehicle. Besides, it's more salubrious to the vehicle.

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:40:05 -0500, "mark_digital©"
<976XXX@nospam.net> wrote:
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>
>"David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
>news:da0vv19g0oi7fblausl96dj3k71oa51n3n@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
>> the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
>> scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>>
>> In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
>> distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
>> folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]
>
>A For Sale sign and a large oil puddle.
>[/color]

ROFL

Maybe put it up on blocks, too?

--

Scott in Florida

"Scott in Florida" <MoveOn@outa.here> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:40:05 -0500, "mark_digital©"
> <976XXX@nospam.net> wrote:
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>>
>>"David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:da0vv19g0oi7fblausl96dj3k71oa51n3n@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
>>> the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
>>> scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>>>
>>> In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
>>> distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
>>> folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]
>>
>>A For Sale sign and a large oil puddle.
>>[/color]
>
> ROFL
>
> Maybe put it up on blocks, too?
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida[/color]

If I did that the town would tow it away. Not a good idea.

On Fri, 24 Feb 2006 22:09:13 +0000, David J <david@btelecom.invalid>
wrote:
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>You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
>the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
>scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>
>In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
>distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
>folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]

Bump the fuel cut-off switch to trigger it so the fuel pump will shut
off. They won't be able to start it.

"mark_digital©" <976XXX@nospam.net> wrote:
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>
>"David J" <david@btelecom.invalid> wrote in message
>news:da0vv19g0oi7fblausl96dj3k71oa51n3n@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> You are going on vacation for two weeks, leaving your cherished car on
>> the drive. You don't want to get home and discover that the local
>> scumbags have helped themselves and your car is gone.
>>
>> In past times past you could easily remove the rotor arm from the
>> distributor, which generally stopped opportunist thieves. What would
>> folks do on a modern car that is guaranteed to beat a car thief.[/color]
>
>A For Sale sign and a large oil puddle.
>[/color]

....and let the air out of a couple of tires...

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-Gord.
(use gordon in email)