Running out of Ideas, HELP

I have a 1989 Toyota Celica ST model, been trying to make it run, out of
luck. The problem is non-starting, it just cranks, thats it. So I thought
it could be in the ignition system or the fuel system. I started with
replacing the fuel filter, checked the fuel pump, it seems to work because
i founs gasoline in the fuel filter system and I can smell some gas, still
no engine life. So I did ignitionn test, there was no spark. I check
everything,replace the igniter, replace the ignition coil, new wire, spark
plug, check air gap ,tested resistance of the primary and secondary
coil(ok), resistance of the pick up coil(ok) replace the main engine
relay, thenm try it again, to no avail.Again it only cranks then nothing.
I observed that the engine light icon does not come out when I start the
engine, does it mean anything to anybody. Do I have a bad ignition switch?
But why can I crank the starter?? Am running out of ideas, anybody who can
help me, or a bit of advice, will be very much appreciated...

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 23:07:17 -0500, Dan49 wrote:
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> I have a 1989 Toyota Celica ST model, been trying to make it run, out of
> luck. The problem is non-starting, it just cranks, thats it. So I thought
> it could be in the ignition system or the fuel system. I started with
> replacing the fuel filter, checked the fuel pump, it seems to work because
> i founs gasoline in the fuel filter system and I can smell some gas, still
> no engine life. So I did ignitionn test, there was no spark. I check
> everything,replace the igniter, replace the ignition coil, new wire, spark
> plug, check air gap ,tested resistance of the primary and secondary
> coil(ok), resistance of the pick up coil(ok) replace the main engine
> relay, thenm try it again, to no avail.Again it only cranks then nothing.
> I observed that the engine light icon does not come out when I start the
> engine, does it mean anything to anybody. Do I have a bad ignition switch?
> But why can I crank the starter?? Am running out of ideas, anybody who can
> help me, or a bit of advice, will be very much appreciated...[/color]

Remove the distributor cover. Crank the engine while a friend watches, or
watch while a friend cranks the engine.

Then, replace the timing belt, because if the rotor isn't >roting<, the
timing belt is gone.

--
In the grand scheme fo things...
What difference does it make?

"Dan49" <danubo49@msn.com> wrote in message
news:0d326bf299e923192def7255e92dfcc4@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...[color=blue]
> I have a 1989 Toyota Celica ST model, been trying to make it run, out of
> luck. The problem is non-starting, it just cranks, thats it. So I thought
> it could be in the ignition system or the fuel system. I started with
> replacing the fuel filter, checked the fuel pump, it seems to work because
> i founs gasoline in the fuel filter system and I can smell some gas, still
> no engine life. So I did ignitionn test, there was no spark. I check
> everything,replace the igniter, replace the ignition coil, new wire, spark
> plug, check air gap ,tested resistance of the primary and secondary
> coil(ok), resistance of the pick up coil(ok) replace the main engine
> relay, thenm try it again, to no avail.Again it only cranks then nothing.
> I observed that the engine light icon does not come out when I start the
> engine, does it mean anything to anybody. Do I have a bad ignition switch?
> But why can I crank the starter?? Am running out of ideas, anybody who can
> help me, or a bit of advice, will be very much appreciated...[/color]

be logical, check for all the engine bits turning, check for compression,
check for spark put new plugs in, check for fresh fuel, check air can get
in. if you have all those and the timing is correct then it should attempt
to start, also possible that the exhaust is blocked, but very unlikely.

if you have compression and spark, then try spraying some carb cleaner in
the air inlet while cranking, if it attempts to start you know there is a
fuel problem.

mrcheerful

Dan49 wrote:[color=blue]
> I have a 1989 Toyota Celica ST model, been trying to make it run, out of
> luck. The problem is non-starting, it just cranks, thats it. So I thought
> it could be in the ignition system or the fuel system. I started with
> replacing the fuel filter, checked the fuel pump, it seems to work because
> i founs gasoline in the fuel filter system and I can smell some gas, still
> no engine life. So I did ignitionn test, there was no spark. I check
> everything,replace the igniter, replace the ignition coil, new wire, spark
> plug, check air gap ,tested resistance of the primary and secondary
> coil(ok), resistance of the pick up coil(ok) replace the main engine
> relay, thenm try it again, to no avail.Again it only cranks then nothing.
> I observed that the engine light icon does not come out when I start the
> engine, does it mean anything to anybody. Do I have a bad ignition switch?
> But why can I crank the starter?? Am running out of ideas, anybody who can
> help me, or a bit of advice, will be very much appreciated...[/color]

It's jus ta piece of crap TOYOTA. Junk it!

"Weird" <delano_h@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1141049160.614087.17030@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Dan49 wrote:[color=green]
>> I have a 1989 Toyota Celica ST model, been trying to make it run, out of
>> luck. The problem is non-starting, it just cranks, thats it. So I thought
>> it could be in the ignition system or the fuel system. I started with
>> replacing the fuel filter, checked the fuel pump, it seems to work
>> because
>> i founs gasoline in the fuel filter system and I can smell some gas,
>> still
>> no engine life. So I did ignitionn test, there was no spark. I check
>> everything,replace the igniter, replace the ignition coil, new wire,
>> spark
>> plug, check air gap ,tested resistance of the primary and secondary
>> coil(ok), resistance of the pick up coil(ok) replace the main engine
>> relay, thenm try it again, to no avail.Again it only cranks then nothing.
>> I observed that the engine light icon does not come out when I start the
>> engine, does it mean anything to anybody. Do I have a bad ignition
>> switch?
>> But why can I crank the starter?? Am running out of ideas, anybody who
>> can
>> help me, or a bit of advice, will be very much appreciated...[/color]
>
> It's jus ta piece of crap TOYOTA. Junk it!
>[/color]
Coming from someone who drives a Yugo?

Or was that you I saw on a moped last week?

Don't bother, Troll...<PLONK!>

r right, actually thinking of donating the damn thing, but it has become a
bit of a challenge, I am determined to make it right,yes, the timing belt
is ok, because the rotor turns. My big question is, if you can make the
starter run,does it mean the electrical circuit for the ignition system is
ok. wihin the ignition switch, the reason I asked is because that is the
only thing i have not tested yet, the voltage of the wiring from the
ignition swith to the coil, should I replace my ignition swith?? could the
problem be the switch??

"Dan49" <danubo49@msn.com> wrote in message
news:f79dcc646b6ea9e4a4d0e4e8caafaa75@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...[color=blue]
> r right, actually thinking of donating the damn thing, but it has become a
> bit of a challenge, I am determined to make it right,yes, the timing belt
> is ok, because the rotor turns. My big question is, if you can make the
> starter run,does it mean the electrical circuit for the ignition system is
> ok. wihin the ignition switch, the reason I asked is because that is the
> only thing i have not tested yet, the voltage of the wiring from the
> ignition swith to the coil, should I replace my ignition swith?? could the
> problem be the switch??
>[/color]

The ability to engage the starter from the ignition switch does not
necessarily mean the ignition switch is good, however, if the rest of the
car works, i.e., radio, turn signals, etc. when the ignition switch is in
the on position, then it is probably good.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

thanks to all, i did all ur suggestion, still am not gettign any spark,
the problem i believe is somewhere in the ignition system but
where...could it be the ecu is the problem? thanks again

"Dan49" <danubo49@msn.com> wrote in message
news:bd89037ee604c1725577e1b49d3715a0@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...[color=blue]
> thanks to all, i did all ur suggestion, still am not gettign any spark,
> the problem i believe is somewhere in the ignition system but
> where...could it be the ecu is the problem? thanks again
>[/color]

It would be helpful if you quoted previous posts so that people responding
know pertinent information about your car.

I don't remember your year, model, engine, what you have tried, and what has
been suggested.

The ECU itself is rarely the problem - failure rate is like 1 per million.
Start our with OEM distributor cap, rotor, wires, and plugs. Check the
igniter.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)