Who likes hatchback cars?

I have a 2000 Mazda Protege 4 door sedan

Been a GREAT car but with its sedan design it is crap
for hauling ANY kind of cargo. Say you go to best Buy
to buy a new TV or PC..... you cant get the big box in
the back seat or the trunk.

having said that I've been thinking lately abt trading
up for a compact hatchback of some kind.

Any opinions or advise on hatchbacks in general and
which brand/model in specific?

Matrix

The Pontiac Vibe. You get all of the advantages of the Matrix, without
spending an extra $1,500 to $2,500 to get the Toyota name of the hood.


mike hunt


<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>I have a 2000 Mazda Protege 4 door sedan
>
> Been a GREAT car but with its sedan design it is crap
> for hauling ANY kind of cargo. Say you go to best Buy
> to buy a new TV or PC..... you cant get the big box in
> the back seat or the trunk.
>
> having said that I've been thinking lately abt trading
> up for a compact hatchback of some kind.
>
> Any opinions or advise on hatchbacks in general and
> which brand/model in specific?[/color]

Mike -

According to kbb.com my 03 Matrix is worth $11,540 in a private party
sale, while an identically equipped Vibe would go for $10,240. How
could that be?

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
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>The Pontiac Vibe. You get all of the advantages of the Matrix, without
>spending an extra $1,500 to $2,500 to get the Toyota name of the hood.[/color]

Will it have as good gas mileage as my protege?

Also....could I get a good used one for say 9k?

Mark wrote:[color=blue]
> Mike -
>
> According to kbb.com my 03 Matrix is worth $11,540 in a private party
> sale, while an identically equipped Vibe would go for $10,240. How
> could that be?[/color]

Functionally, they're the same car, but they're NOT really the same car.
<G>

Remember, the auto industry is fashionable. Styling and brand identity
have monetary value. One car will have a value, while it's
differently branded sister, made of many of the same parts, but with
slight style differences will have another value. Many upscale names
like Lexus, Infinity, Acura, Cadillac, Lincoln, etc... have sister
vehicles that can be loaded to the gills and bought for less than the
upscale version. Not all upscale vehicles have sisters, but an awful
lot do.

Resale values are supposed to be based on what another person will
actually pay for the vehicle on the open market (supply and demand) and
can sometimes be quite disconnected from common sense.

Here's another real world head slapper for ya', that shows how
"fashionable" can really affect resale:

My 1999 Jeep Wrangler Sport vs. my sister-in-law's 1999 Jeep Grand
Cherokee Laredo V8. Both are respectively loaded, have nearly identical
mileage (70k) and are in comparable condition. The GC was in the $35k
(sticker, which she paid, they were hot) range new, while the Wrangler
was $23k (sticker, paid ~$21k). The Wrangler is worth about $1500 more
in a private party sale today, dealer retail difference approaches
$2,000. Go figure...

[email]m@privacy.net[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
>
> you can't get the big box in the back seat or the trunk.[/color]



You might consider the Hyundai Elantra 5-door hatchback GLS.
The hatchback offers "28 cubic feet of cargo capacity with the
rear seats in use and 37 cubes when they're folded."

I believe I read a couple months ago that there's so much room
in the hatchback cargo area, you can fit the box of a 27-inch TV in
the back with the hatch closed.

The 2.0 liter 4-cylinder gives you 138 horses.

5-year 60k bumper-to-bumper Warranty and 10-year 100k powertrain
Warranty.

You might also consider the Kia Spectra5 hatchback with identical
warranty. Hyundai owns Kia.

The Spectra5 gives you an 18.3-cubic-foot cargo area (about
*52* cubic feet with the seats down).

On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:56:04 -0500, "Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote:
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>m@privacy.net wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> you can't get the big box in the back seat or the trunk.[/color]
>
>
>
> You might consider the Hyundai Elantra 5-door hatchback GLS.
>The hatchback offers "28 cubic feet of cargo capacity with the
>rear seats in use and 37 cubes when they're folded."
>
> I believe I read a couple months ago that there's so much room
>in the hatchback cargo area, you can fit the box of a 27-inch TV in
>the back with the hatch closed.
>
> The 2.0 liter 4-cylinder gives you 138 horses.
>
> 5-year 60k bumper-to-bumper Warranty and 10-year 100k powertrain
>Warranty.
>
> You might also consider the Kia Spectra5 hatchback with identical
>warranty. Hyundai owns Kia.
>
> The Spectra5 gives you an 18.3-cubic-foot cargo area (about
>*52* cubic feet with the seats down).[/color]


Why would ANYONE that is in this NG even think of Kia or Hyundai?

--

Scott in Florida

"Mark" <bogusmailmark@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>Matrix[/color]

Yep...
--

-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

Hatchback is really handy. My work car is a 95 corolla wagon, and it's
handier than a hatchback. Alas, wagons are limited. VW and subaru are two
that come to mind. There are others, but no Corolla or Camry anymore.

Vibe versus Matrix? I'd buy Matrix. No long list of reasons, just a
preference. I would consider a Highlander personally. It's a good balance
to me. Might be too big for you, just something to consider.

If you need to move a big tv, it might be cheaper to rent a U-haul once or
twice a year.

<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>I have a 2000 Mazda Protege 4 door sedan
>
> Been a GREAT car but with its sedan design it is crap
> for hauling ANY kind of cargo. Say you go to best Buy[/color]

On Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:23:10 GMT, "Alex" <someone@microsoft.com>
wrote:
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>Hatchback is really handy. My work car is a 95 corolla wagon, and it's
>handier than a hatchback. Alas, wagons are limited. VW and subaru are two
>that come to mind. There are others, but no Corolla or Camry anymore.[/color]

That really is too bad. It is the reason I keep my '92 Corolla Wagon.
You could not ask for a better small 'do everything' vehicle....IMH

[color=blue]
>
>Vibe versus Matrix? I'd buy Matrix. No long list of reasons, just a
>preference. I would consider a Highlander personally. It's a good balance
>to me. Might be too big for you, just something to consider.
>
>If you need to move a big tv, it might be cheaper to rent a U-haul once or
>twice a year.
>
><me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>I have a 2000 Mazda Protege 4 door sedan
>>
>> Been a GREAT car but with its sedan design it is crap
>> for hauling ANY kind of cargo. Say you go to best Buy[/color]
>[/color]
--

Scott in Florida

"Built_Well" <bw@bbbb.com> wrote:
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> You might consider the Hyundai Elantra 5-door hatchback GLS.
>The hatchback offers "28 cubic feet of cargo capacity with the
>rear seats in use and 37 cubes when they're folded."[/color]

Hmm..... Ill give it a looksie

<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:v96602dvkb85543q01mfjndgsva373d2lf@4ax.com...[color=blue]
>I have a 2000 Mazda Protege 4 door sedan
>
> Been a GREAT car but with its sedan design it is crap
> for hauling ANY kind of cargo. Say you go to best Buy
> to buy a new TV or PC..... you cant get the big box in
> the back seat or the trunk.
>
> having said that I've been thinking lately abt trading
> up for a compact hatchback of some kind.
>
> Any opinions or advise on hatchbacks in general and
> which brand/model in specific?[/color]

I *LOVE* Hatchbacks!

1985 Corolla GTS hatchback
1985 Celica GT-S Hatchback
1988 Supra Hatchback

Keep 'em coming!!!

Mark wrote:[color=blue]
> Mike -
>
> According to kbb.com my 03 Matrix is worth $11,540 in a private party
> sale, while an identically equipped Vibe would go for $10,240. How
> could that be?[/color]

Very simple: people like you are willing to pay the difference.

I just goes to show the Pontiac is STILL a better buy, even three years
later, when one realizes the Matrix cost a least $2,000 more to drive home
when new. ;)


mike hunt


"FanJet" <FanJet27@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mark wrote:[color=green]
>> Mike -
>>
>> According to kbb.com my 03 Matrix is worth $11,540 in a private party
>> sale, while an identically equipped Vibe would go for $10,240. How
>> could that be?[/color]
>
> Very simple: people like you are willing to pay the difference.
>
>[/color]