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Old 03-03-2006, 10:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Best tire guage?

I need a really good tire gauge for general home use
for my vehicles

Any advice on an 'accurate" one?
 
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Old 03-03-2006, 11:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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[email]me@privacy.net[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> I need a really good tire gauge for general home use
> for my vehicles[/color]

I have one of these - works great; still has original battery after 2
years of use:
[url]http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=02823001000&subcat=Air+Gauges[/url]


 
Old 03-03-2006, 11:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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[email]me@privacy.net[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> I need a really good tire gauge for general home use
> for my vehicles
>
> Any advice on an 'accurate" one?[/color]

the digital ones get panned by a lot of experts....something about
being overpriced and the inherent difficulty in converting some sort of
pressure into another. I'm not a physicist, so I don't understand the
details.

At any rate, most "experts" say the round dial-type gauges are the most
accurate. I have the "holding" Accu-gage. They are about $20 in most
auto parts stores. Only complaint is that if you drop it, from any type
of height, it will break. the needle will stick on some random number
and it loses accuracy. That's the reason Consumer Reports rated it only
fair, otherwise, it is top-notch.


[url]http://www.accu-gage.com/dial.htm[/url]

See a discussion of the various brands here:

[url]http://www.retread.org/Inflation/index.cfm/ID/179.htm[/url]

 
Old 03-03-2006, 12:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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[email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:
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>At any rate, most "experts" say the round dial-type gauges are the most
>accurate. I[/color]

So in this case a NON digital device is better huh?

I currently have a pencil type gauge where the little
plastic "pencil" pops out depending on the pressure

But I don't trust it
 
Old 03-03-2006, 12:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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[email]me@privacy.net[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> [email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:
>[color=green]
> > At any rate, most "experts" say the round dial-type gauges are the
> > most accurate. I[/color]
>
> So in this case a NON digital device is better huh?[/color]

Not according to any of the reports I've read.

Here's an example:
[url]http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=861176[/url]


 
Old 03-03-2006, 12:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Travis Jordan wrote:[color=blue]
> [email]me@privacy.net[/email] wrote:[color=green]
> > [email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > At any rate, most "experts" say the round dial-type gauges are the
> > > most accurate. I[/color]
> >
> > So in this case a NON digital device is better huh?[/color]
>
> Not according to any of the reports I've read.
>
> Here's an example:
> [url]http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=861176[/url][/color]

I am not going to argue the reliability of the digital vs. analog round
gauges. I noted the primary argument Consumer Reports has against the
dial gauges is that they will go out of whack if you drop them.

I've done that once in some 25 years of "dial gauge" ownership, about
15 years ago. Ruined the gauge. Bought another one, haven't dropped
this one, yet, but someday I will.

Pencil gauges can be accurate, but they are affected by altitude,
humidity, etc. Also, many of the cheap ones, like anything else aren't
much good. If you like the digital, great. Enjoy.

 
Old 03-03-2006, 01:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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<timbirr@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:1141411476.229941.194640@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Travis Jordan wrote:[color=green]
>> [email]me@privacy.net[/email] wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > [email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:
>> >
>> > > At any rate, most "experts" say the round dial-type gauges are the
>> > > most accurate. I
>> >
>> > So in this case a NON digital device is better huh?[/color]
>>
>> Not according to any of the reports I've read.
>>
>> Here's an example:
>> [url]http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=861176[/url][/color]
>
> I am not going to argue the reliability of the digital vs. analog round
> gauges. I noted the primary argument Consumer Reports has against the
> dial gauges is that they will go out of whack if you drop them.
>
> I've done that once in some 25 years of "dial gauge" ownership, about
> 15 years ago. Ruined the gauge. Bought another one, haven't dropped
> this one, yet, but someday I will.
>
> Pencil gauges can be accurate, but they are affected by altitude,
> humidity, etc. Also, many of the cheap ones, like anything else aren't
> much good. If you like the digital, great. Enjoy.
>[/color]

Get an air compressor and one of these Milton tire inflators :
[url]http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/42528.htm[/url]
It is designed for professional use in an automotive shop. Mine is around
20 years old, I've tossed it under cars when the hose doesn't reach, it has
been dropped, tossed, kicked, and works perfectly.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


 
Old 03-03-2006, 02:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
>
> Get an air compressor and one of these Milton tire inflators :
> [url]http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/42528.htm[/url]
> It is designed for professional use in an automotive shop. Mine is around
> 20 years old, I've tossed it under cars when the hose doesn't reach, it has
> been dropped, tossed, kicked, and works perfectly.[/color]

Air compressors are great. I just don't have the need for one. The very
rare occassion I've needed one for a tire, the guys at the local tire
shop loan me one.

BTW, for whomever cares, as I said, I am not an expert, and I don't
really understand any of the techno geek stuff about this, but the
following site, addresses some of what I have heard about the digital
gauges....it is talking about "moderately priced" digital gauges, but I
have no idea what their idea of "moderate" is... Nor do I know if this
is correct, but it seems to be about the same stuff I have heard on car
radio talk shows and in various print stories.

[url]http://www.bikepro.com/products/pumps/airgauge.html[/url]

 
Old 03-03-2006, 04:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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[email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> BTW, for whomever cares, as I said, I am not an expert, and I don't
> really understand any of the techno geek stuff about this, but the
> following site, addresses some of what I have heard about the digital
> gauges....it is talking about "moderately priced" digital gauges, but
> I have no idea what their idea of "moderate" is... Nor do I know if
> this is correct, but it seems to be about the same stuff I have heard
> on car radio talk shows and in various print stories.
>
> [url]http://www.bikepro.com/products/pumps/airgauge.html[/url][/color]

I'll take Consumer Reports analysis over "bikepro" hawking their own
goods, thanks.

P.S. I do know something about the technology. Digital gauges use
"strain gauge transducers". They are much, much more accurate than
spring resistive sensors and have basically replaced the spring sensor
in everyday applications such as scales.


 
Old 03-03-2006, 05:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Travis Jordan wrote:[color=blue]
> I'll take Consumer Reports analysis over "bikepro" hawking their own
> goods, thanks.
>
> P.S. I do know something about the technology. Digital gauges use
> "strain gauge transducers". They are much, much more accurate than
> spring resistive sensors and have basically replaced the spring sensor
> in everyday applications such as scales.[/color]

Well, Travis, it's not only "bike pro" saying that, I've heard
essentially the same thing from many other places....bike pro was just
the first that sprang up when I googled the term.

As I said, they say moderately priced gauges. What the heck does that
mean? Is a $30 gauge moderate, or is it expensive. Got me. $20 for the
Accu-gage is about at the top limit of what I'll pay for any gauge.
I'm sure there are digital gauges that are excellent. But do I have to
pay $60 to get one, or is a $12 one good? And the article specially
calls into question those transducers you talk about.

Tom and Ray, the CarTalk guys, who I trust pretty well, say a digital
gauge in the $15 range should be good. They have never steered me
wrong, so I would guess if someone went that route they'd be in good
shape.

My real concern would be the battery, although they probably last five
years or so, when I want I gauge, I want a gauge. I live a fair
distance from town and it isn't a matter of walking across the street
to buy a lithium crystal when one fails. Of course, if I drop my
gauge, I'm in the same boat.

It's beyond me. It's a tire, plus or minus a couple of pounds no big
deal. Too many people get too tied up to getting to 30.0000 PSI. Sort
of like the old days of setting points. Sure I can get it right to the
mm. But within a couple is good enough for me.

 
Old 03-03-2006, 05:27 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I have a disposable digital Radio Shack. It is accurate and so far the
battery lasts forever. They promise 5 years I think.... then you throw it
away.


"Travis Jordan" <no.one@no.net> wrote in message
news:8d3Of.237689$uu4.235762@fe02.news.easynews.com...[color=blue]
> [email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:[color=green]
>> BTW, for whomever cares, as I said, I am not an expert, and I don't
>> really understand any of the techno geek stuff about this, but the
>> following site, addresses some of what I have heard about the digital
>> gauges....it is talking about "moderately priced" digital gauges, but
>> I have no idea what their idea of "moderate" is... Nor do I know if
>> this is correct, but it seems to be about the same stuff I have heard
>> on car radio talk shows and in various print stories.
>>
>> [url]http://www.bikepro.com/products/pumps/airgauge.html[/url][/color]
>
> I'll take Consumer Reports analysis over "bikepro" hawking their own
> goods, thanks.
>
> P.S. I do know something about the technology. Digital gauges use
> "strain gauge transducers". They are much, much more accurate than
> spring resistive sensors and have basically replaced the spring sensor
> in everyday applications such as scales.
>
>[/color]


 
Old 03-04-2006, 01:33 AM   #12 (permalink)
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On 3 Mar 2006 12:54:52 -0800, [email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
>Ray O wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Get an air compressor and one of these Milton tire inflators :
>> [url]http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/42528.htm[/url]
>> It is designed for professional use in an automotive shop. Mine is around
>> 20 years old, I've tossed it under cars when the hose doesn't reach, it has
>> been dropped, tossed, kicked, and works perfectly.[/color]
>
>Air compressors are great. I just don't have the need for one. The very
>rare occassion I've needed one for a tire, the guys at the local tire
>shop loan me one.[/color]

Everyone with a car or bicycle, or anything with pneumatic tires
like a hand-truck for the garbage cans, wheelbarrow, or a riding
mower, needs /some sort/ of an air source at home. If you have to
take the tire to the tire-shop compressor each time they're a touch
low, you are far less likely to check them regularly.

Keep your eyes open at garage sales for a good deal - people
regularly get rid of good stuff for pennies on the dollar.

You can get a 5-gallon air storage tank that you fill up at the
local tire shop, around $20 brand new. They'll get a flat car tire
with a nail in it off the ground long enough to limp to the tire shop.

Or a small 120V 1/2-Horsepower 2-gallon "pancake" compressor, or
even one of the little 12V lighter-socket jobbies will do the job.

You only need the big 230V 5-HP 80-Gallon monster at home if you
plan to run a bead-blast cabinet, an impact wrench to change tires, or
paint your car. The little 1/2-HP portable units work just fine for
nail-guns, filling tires, and small paint spraying jobs.

--<< Bruce >>--

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Old 03-04-2006, 06:59 AM   #13 (permalink)
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 07:33:21 GMT, Bruce L. Bergman
<blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote:
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> You only need the big 230V 5-HP 80-Gallon monster at home if you
>plan to run a bead-blast cabinet, an impact wrench to change tires, or
>paint your car[/color]

but but the POWER of having one.....LOL

Toys can't always be justified....but they can be enjoyed!

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Old 03-04-2006, 11:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 3 Mar 2006 12:54:52 -0800, [email]timbirr@mailcity.com[/email] wrote:[color=green]
>>Ray O wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Get an air compressor and one of these Milton tire inflators :
>>> [url]http://www2.northerntool.com/product-1/42528.htm[/url]
>>> It is designed for professional use in an automotive shop. Mine is
>>> around
>>> 20 years old, I've tossed it under cars when the hose doesn't reach, it
>>> has
>>> been dropped, tossed, kicked, and works perfectly.[/color]
>>
>>Air compressors are great. I just don't have the need for one. The very
>>rare occassion I've needed one for a tire, the guys at the local tire
>>shop loan me one.[/color]
>
> Everyone with a car or bicycle, or anything with pneumatic tires
> like a hand-truck for the garbage cans, wheelbarrow, or a riding
> mower, needs /some sort/ of an air source at home. If you have to
> take the tire to the tire-shop compressor each time they're a touch
> low, you are far less likely to check them regularly.
>
> Keep your eyes open at garage sales for a good deal - people
> regularly get rid of good stuff for pennies on the dollar.
>
> You can get a 5-gallon air storage tank that you fill up at the
> local tire shop, around $20 brand new. They'll get a flat car tire
> with a nail in it off the ground long enough to limp to the tire shop.
>
> Or a small 120V 1/2-Horsepower 2-gallon "pancake" compressor, or
> even one of the little 12V lighter-socket jobbies will do the job.
>
> You only need the big 230V 5-HP 80-Gallon monster at home if you
> plan to run a bead-blast cabinet, an impact wrench to change tires, or
> paint your car. The little 1/2-HP portable units work just fine for
> nail-guns, filling tires, and small paint spraying jobs.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--
>[/color]
My compressor is a medium 230V 5-HP 30 gallon compressor. It has no problem
with air ratchets, impact guns, or paint guns. It does tend to run a little
more when using a die grinder for long periods. It's great for topping of
tires while they are stone cold but a little overkill for filling soccer
balls.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


 
Old 03-05-2006, 12:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Get one that works.




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>I need a really good tire gauge for general home use
> for my vehicles
>
> Any advice on an 'accurate" one?[/color]

 
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