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Old 03-13-2006, 05:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fabricating a Filler Neck

I had no luck finding a fuel filler neck for my '88 Supra.
The dealer suggested a radiatior shop.
Anyone have any ideas how to make one of these that will interface
properly with the tank?

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Old 03-13-2006, 07:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Fabricating a Filler Neck

Any muffler shop that bends tubing can do it if you can give them a
sample or get the vehicle there. Whether they WILL is another question
but usually yes.

 
Old 03-13-2006, 09:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Fabricating a Filler Neck

On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:48:23 -0800, Bret Ludwig wrote:
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> Any muffler shop that bends tubing can do it if you can give them a
> sample or get the vehicle there. Whether they WILL is another question
> but usually yes.[/color]

Thanks.

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Old 03-14-2006, 12:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Fabricating a Filler Neck

Hachiroku, 3/13/2006, 6:29:44 PM, <IfnRf.1026$%b.520@trndny04> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I had no luck finding a fuel filler neck for my '88 Supra.
> The dealer suggested a radiatior shop.
> Anyone have any ideas how to make one of these that will interface
> properly with the tank?[/color]

Local junkyards, perhaps?
 
Old 03-14-2006, 01:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Fabricating a Filler Neck

On 13 Mar 2006 17:48:23 -0800, "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com>
wrote:
(Bret deleted the part about the rusting out gas filler neck)
[color=blue]
> Any muffler shop that bends tubing can do it if you can give them a
>sample or get the vehicle there. Whether they WILL is another question
>but usually yes.[/color]

If the 'top filler neck & gas-cap fitting' end and the 'connects to
the tank' end are in good shape, a muffler shop, sheetmetal shop or
blacksmith can always bend a new piece of mild steel tubing to go
between the two fittings and weld it all together.

(Welded on the shop bench far from the car's gasoline tank, of
course. But since there are people who would try fixing it on the
car, and that won't work <Boom!> I figured I'd better clarify.)

Or if the damage is not severe (I can't see it) you could cut out
the rusted section with a hacksaw, deburr the ends of the tubing, and
insert a piece of Gates Green Stripe straight fuel filler hose. They
make it in 1/8" steps for smaller sizes and 1/4" steps up to something
like 4" ID - just cut a chunk and use good worm-drive hose clamps. It
will bend, but in a very large radius only.

If there are multiple rust-outs and tight curves, you can have them
bend a new center section of tubing with the curves and use two stubs
of fuel filler hose to assemble it back into one unit. No welding
needed.

It gets trickier if you need a special fitting to go into a gasket
on the tank, and that fitting end has rusted away.

The gas cap end of the filler neck is interchangeable between brands
and models, anything that will fit and work - as long as the pressure
and vacuum relief settings of the cap match what the car computer
expects. Otherwise it can set off the Check Engine light over
emissions system pressures.

--<< Bruce >>--

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Old 03-14-2006, 05:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Fabricating a Filler Neck

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:IfnRf.1026$%b.520@trndny04...[color=blue]
>I had no luck finding a fuel filler neck for my '88 Supra.
> The dealer suggested a radiatior shop.
> Anyone have any ideas how to make one of these that will interface
> properly with the tank?
>[/color]

Check with TCB [url]http://www.tcbperformanceparts.co.uk/[/url] - well known and used
in the UK by us celica owners.

J


 
Old 03-14-2006, 08:58 PM   #7 (permalink)
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On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:59:17 +0000, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
[color=blue]
> On 13 Mar 2006 17:48:23 -0800, "Bret Ludwig" <bretldwig@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> (Bret deleted the part about the rusting out gas filler neck)
>[color=green]
>> Any muffler shop that bends tubing can do it if you can give them a
>>sample or get the vehicle there. Whether they WILL is another question
>>but usually yes.[/color]
>
> If the 'top filler neck & gas-cap fitting' end and the 'connects to
> the tank' end are in good shape, a muffler shop, sheetmetal shop or
> blacksmith can always bend a new piece of mild steel tubing to go
> between the two fittings and weld it all together.
>
> (Welded on the shop bench far from the car's gasoline tank, of
> course. But since there are people who would try fixing it on the
> car, and that won't work <Boom!> I figured I'd better clarify.)
>
> Or if the damage is not severe (I can't see it) you could cut out
> the rusted section with a hacksaw, deburr the ends of the tubing, and
> insert a piece of Gates Green Stripe straight fuel filler hose. They
> make it in 1/8" steps for smaller sizes and 1/4" steps up to something
> like 4" ID - just cut a chunk and use good worm-drive hose clamps. It
> will bend, but in a very large radius only.
>
> If there are multiple rust-outs and tight curves, you can have them
> bend a new center section of tubing with the curves and use two stubs
> of fuel filler hose to assemble it back into one unit. No welding
> needed.
>
> It gets trickier if you need a special fitting to go into a gasket
> on the tank, and that fitting end has rusted away.
>
> The gas cap end of the filler neck is interchangeable between brands
> and models, anything that will fit and work - as long as the pressure
> and vacuum relief settings of the cap match what the car computer
> expects. Otherwise it can set off the Check Engine light over
> emissions system pressures.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--[/color]
Let's see if I can do this: It's right where the tube meets the flange
that connects to the tank:
| |
| |
| |Rust is at this junction
________| |________
| |
_________________________




 
Old 03-15-2006, 02:41 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Fabricating a Filler Neck

On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:58:20 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:

[color=blue]
>Let's see if I can do this: It's right where the tube meets the flange
>that connects to the tank:
> | |
> | |
> | |Rust is at this junction
> ________| |________
> | |
> _________________________[/color]

Oh <expletive deleted>. Worst possible place.

Is this one of those setups where the tube and flange are all one
piece, and there's a gasket and screws holding it to the tank?

You may have to fab a new flange with two or three inches of
straight tube on it, make it look exactly like your ASCII picture.

Or find a filler neck from another car with the same flange, even if
the tube is bent different - because the rest of the tubing doesn't
matter, you're chopping it off to get a good tank flange.

Chop your existing filler neck to match, get a chunk of Green Stripe
filler hose and four clamps, and have fun.

--<< Bruce >>--

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