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Old 03-16-2006, 04:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Door bottom edge rust

I have Toyota Camry 2003 LE.
I bought it in 2004 at the Woodbridge Toyota dealership here in
Toronto.
It was a DEMO car with 16,000 km on it.
Dealership gave me a "clean history" paper.
No repairs, nothing.
It starts rusting on my driver's side back door bottom edge.
It's bubbling. And I even can see it starts rusting higher, where the
handle is.
By the handle it looks like a tiny chip came off.

I think It's way too early for 2003 car.
I suspect the door was repaired.
Otherwise it wouldn't start rusting so early.
Now the dealership sent me to a Body Shop
and is going to cover the cost.
But I just don't like this car anymore.
If rust started it will not stop.
I even think it's better to replace the whole door.
Am I right?

Rob

 
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Old 03-16-2006, 04:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Door bottom edge rust


"sveiki" <ropeshansky@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142547525.806423.52750@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>I have Toyota Camry 2003 LE.
> I bought it in 2004 at the Woodbridge Toyota dealership here in
> Toronto.
> It was a DEMO car with 16,000 km on it.
> Dealership gave me a "clean history" paper.
> No repairs, nothing.
> It starts rusting on my driver's side back door bottom edge.
> It's bubbling. And I even can see it starts rusting higher, where the
> handle is.
> By the handle it looks like a tiny chip came off.
>
> I think It's way too early for 2003 car.
> I suspect the door was repaired.
> Otherwise it wouldn't start rusting so early.
> Now the dealership sent me to a Body Shop
> and is going to cover the cost.
> But I just don't like this car anymore.
> If rust started it will not stop.
> I even think it's better to replace the whole door.
> Am I right?
>
> Rob
>[/color]

I would guess that body work was done to the door for it to begin rusting so
quickly, especially if there were no scratches or chips were the rust began.
I don't think that it is necessary to replace the entire door if it is
prepared properly - primer, caulking, etc. We have body work on our Avalon
that is 7 or 8 years old that is very difficult to detect, with no rust,
etc.
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Ray O
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Old 03-17-2006, 09:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Door bottom edge rust

You are absolutely right, Ray!
Body work was done on this door.
And it was done poorely.
Of course the dealership won't replace the door.
But obviously we have a fraud here.
The dealership introduced the car in 2004 as "clean", "no repairs
done".
And I was the first owner.
This was obviously a lie.
I wonder what can I do now about it?

Rob



Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> "sveiki" <ropeshansky@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1142547525.806423.52750@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> >I have Toyota Camry 2003 LE.
> > I bought it in 2004 at the Woodbridge Toyota dealership here in
> > Toronto.
> > It was a DEMO car with 16,000 km on it.
> > Dealership gave me a "clean history" paper.
> > No repairs, nothing.
> > It starts rusting on my driver's side back door bottom edge.
> > It's bubbling. And I even can see it starts rusting higher, where the
> > handle is.
> > By the handle it looks like a tiny chip came off.
> >
> > I think It's way too early for 2003 car.
> > I suspect the door was repaired.
> > Otherwise it wouldn't start rusting so early.
> > Now the dealership sent me to a Body Shop
> > and is going to cover the cost.
> > But I just don't like this car anymore.
> > If rust started it will not stop.
> > I even think it's better to replace the whole door.
> > Am I right?
> >
> > Rob
> >[/color]
>
> I would guess that body work was done to the door for it to begin rusting so
> quickly, especially if there were no scratches or chips were the rust began.
> I don't think that it is necessary to replace the entire door if it is
> prepared properly - primer, caulking, etc. We have body work on our Avalon
> that is 7 or 8 years old that is very difficult to detect, with no rust,
> etc.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]

 
Old 03-17-2006, 09:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Door bottom edge rust


"sveiki" <ropeshansky@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1142607769.092194.326080@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> You are absolutely right, Ray!
> Body work was done on this door.
> And it was done poorely.
> Of course the dealership won't replace the door.
> But obviously we have a fraud here.
> The dealership introduced the car in 2004 as "clean", "no repairs
> done".
> And I was the first owner.
> This was obviously a lie.
> I wonder what can I do now about it?
>
> Rob
>[/color]

The first step is to speak to the sales manager, then general manager, then
owner of the dealership. If you do not get relief, then you may want to
look into small claims court or local newspaper that offers consumer
assistance in getting problems fixed. If the car is still covered by the
factory warranty, you can cocntact the Toyota customer relations hot line.
It sounds like this is technically not a warranty issue, but you may get
lucky there.

Depending on the condition of the door that is currently installed on your
car, a new door may or may not be the solution. I don't know if the door
comes as an assembly or if the exterior skin has to be installed on the door
frame. In either case, I don't think that replacement body panels are
caulked at the hemmed seams and many body shops forget to calk the hemmed
seams so rust eventually develops, making people think that the replacement
body parts are inferior. It is also possible that aftermarket body parts
were installed, which also tend to develop rust more quickly.

Good luck!

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Ray O
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>
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> "sveiki" <ropeshansky@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1142547525.806423.52750@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> >I have Toyota Camry 2003 LE.
>> > I bought it in 2004 at the Woodbridge Toyota dealership here in
>> > Toronto.
>> > It was a DEMO car with 16,000 km on it.
>> > Dealership gave me a "clean history" paper.
>> > No repairs, nothing.
>> > It starts rusting on my driver's side back door bottom edge.
>> > It's bubbling. And I even can see it starts rusting higher, where the
>> > handle is.
>> > By the handle it looks like a tiny chip came off.
>> >
>> > I think It's way too early for 2003 car.
>> > I suspect the door was repaired.
>> > Otherwise it wouldn't start rusting so early.
>> > Now the dealership sent me to a Body Shop
>> > and is going to cover the cost.
>> > But I just don't like this car anymore.
>> > If rust started it will not stop.
>> > I even think it's better to replace the whole door.
>> > Am I right?
>> >
>> > Rob
>> >[/color]
>>
>> I would guess that body work was done to the door for it to begin rusting
>> so
>> quickly, especially if there were no scratches or chips were the rust
>> began.
>> I don't think that it is necessary to replace the entire door if it is
>> prepared properly - primer, caulking, etc. We have body work on our
>> Avalon
>> that is 7 or 8 years old that is very difficult to detect, with no rust,
>> etc.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
>[/color]


 
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