OT Well, I guess this is fair

We have a hiring freeze at work, and a number of people have left since the
freeze.

THere is a salesperson that desparately needs an assistant. Since it is
somewhat close to what I do now, I offered to take on that position as well
as my own...for $4 an hour more, of course! THis would make me the highest
paid hourly worker in the company.

However, it was turned down.
It's not fair.
The other people in the same job make what I make now. Maximum. So, to pay
me $4 an hour more isn't fair to the rest of the people in that position.

"But, I'll be doing the same job I am now, AND doing the other position as
well!!"

"Well, it's not fair to the others!"

So I turned it down. The whole idea was to make a few extra bucks, while
saving the company 3/4 of the usual salary, as well as benefits, etc.

But, it's not fair.

Is this like no-outcome based education? Like baseball or basketball games
where no one keeps score? Those aren't Fair either, remember?

I love Liberalism.

"hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:ZNdWf.3115$Po1.976@trndny01...[color=blue]
> We have a hiring freeze at work, and a number of people have left since
> the freeze.
>
> THere is a salesperson that desparately needs an assistant. Since it is
> somewhat close to what I do now, I offered to take on that position as
> well as my own...for $4 an hour more, of course! THis would make me the
> highest paid hourly worker in the company.
>
> However, it was turned down.
> It's not fair.
> The other people in the same job make what I make now. Maximum. So, to pay
> me $4 an hour more isn't fair to the rest of the people in that position.
>
> "But, I'll be doing the same job I am now, AND doing the other position as
> well!!"
>
> "Well, it's not fair to the others!"
>
> So I turned it down. The whole idea was to make a few extra bucks, while
> saving the company 3/4 of the usual salary, as well as benefits, etc.
>
> But, it's not fair.
>
> Is this like no-outcome based education? Like baseball or basketball games
> where no one keeps score? Those aren't Fair either, remember?
>
> I love Liberalism.
>
>
>[/color]
First thing that came to mind is you wouldn't look good in a skirt.

mark_digital wrote:[color=blue]
> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:ZNdWf.3115$Po1.976@trndny01...[color=green]
> > We have a hiring freeze at work, and a number of people have left since
> > the freeze.
> >
> > THere is a salesperson that desparately needs an assistant. Since it is
> > somewhat close to what I do now, I offered to take on that position as
> > well as my own...for $4 an hour more, of course! THis would make me the
> > highest paid hourly worker in the company.
> >
> > However, it was turned down.
> > It's not fair.
> > The other people in the same job make what I make now. Maximum. So, to pay
> > me $4 an hour more isn't fair to the rest of the people in that position.
> >
> > "But, I'll be doing the same job I am now, AND doing the other position as
> > well!!"
> >
> > "Well, it's not fair to the others!"
> >
> > So I turned it down. The whole idea was to make a few extra bucks, while
> > saving the company 3/4 of the usual salary, as well as benefits, etc.
> >
> > But, it's not fair.
> >
> > Is this like no-outcome based education? Like baseball or basketball games
> > where no one keeps score? Those aren't Fair either, remember?
> >
> > I love Liberalism.
> >
> >
> >[/color]
> First thing that came to mind is you wouldn't look good in a skirt.[/color]

Maybe he shaves his legs. Good for a gender foul if you only see him
from the ass down.

Fair has nothing to do with it, management has the right to schedule work
and working hours. How can one do a job properly yet take on the work of
another job? Seems if you have time to do additional work you are not
giving your employer the eight hours of work for which you are paid. If
you worked in a union shop, management would have to reclassify the
qualifications to for the new job, set a pay rate according to the skills
required for that new job, before they
can eliminate one of the jobs. ;)

mike hunt


"hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:ZNdWf.3115$Po1.976@trndny01...[color=blue]
> We have a hiring freeze at work, and a number of people have left since
> the freeze.
>
> THere is a salesperson that desparately needs an assistant. Since it is
> somewhat close to what I do now, I offered to take on that position as
> well as my own...for $4 an hour more, of course! THis would make me the
> highest paid hourly worker in the company.
>
> However, it was turned down.
> It's not fair.
> The other people in the same job make what I make now. Maximum. So, to pay
> me $4 an hour more isn't fair to the rest of the people in that position.
>
> "But, I'll be doing the same job I am now, AND doing the other position as
> well!!"
>
> "Well, it's not fair to the others!"
>
> So I turned it down. The whole idea was to make a few extra bucks, while
> saving the company 3/4 of the usual salary, as well as benefits, etc.
>
> But, it's not fair.
>
> Is this like no-outcome based education? Like baseball or basketball games
> where no one keeps score? Those aren't Fair either, remember?
>
> I love Liberalism.
>
>
>[/color]

"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1143573452.274384.181410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> mark_digital wrote:[color=green]
>> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:ZNdWf.3115$Po1.976@trndny01...[color=darkred]
>> > We have a hiring freeze at work, and a number of people have left since
>> > the freeze.
>> >
>> > THere is a salesperson that desparately needs an assistant. Since it is
>> > somewhat close to what I do now, I offered to take on that position as
>> > well as my own...for $4 an hour more, of course! THis would make me the
>> > highest paid hourly worker in the company.
>> >
>> > However, it was turned down.
>> > It's not fair.
>> > The other people in the same job make what I make now. Maximum. So, to
>> > pay
>> > me $4 an hour more isn't fair to the rest of the people in that
>> > position.
>> >
>> > "But, I'll be doing the same job I am now, AND doing the other position
>> > as
>> > well!!"
>> >
>> > "Well, it's not fair to the others!"
>> >
>> > So I turned it down. The whole idea was to make a few extra bucks,
>> > while
>> > saving the company 3/4 of the usual salary, as well as benefits, etc.
>> >
>> > But, it's not fair.
>> >
>> > Is this like no-outcome based education? Like baseball or basketball
>> > games
>> > where no one keeps score? Those aren't Fair either, remember?
>> >
>> > I love Liberalism.
>> >
>> >
>> >[/color]
>> First thing that came to mind is you wouldn't look good in a skirt.[/color]
>
> Maybe he shaves his legs. Good for a gender foul if you only see him
> from the ass down.
>[/color]

You really wouldn't want to.

I have a Backup alarm...

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:iYydnXMSrtqoDbTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> Fair has nothing to do with it, management has the right to schedule work
> and working hours. How can one do a job properly yet take on the work of
> another job? Seems if you have time to do additional work you are not
> giving your employer the eight hours of work for which you are paid. If
> you worked in a union shop, management would have to reclassify the
> qualifications to for the new job, set a pay rate according to the skills
> required for that new job, before they
> can eliminate one of the jobs. ;)
>
> mike hunt[/color]

Very simple: the two jobs are so closely related it would be very easy to
incorporate the two, and I would be working 25 feet from where I am now.
One is data entry and software verification (working the bugs out of the
home-brew software)
And the other is dealing with customers on the phone. I can walk and chew
gum at the same time, and I have a twinhead type video card, so I can run
two monitors.

And, I pack 9 hours into an 8 hour day. It really wouldn't be difficult.

It's just not fair.
[color=blue]
>
>
> "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:ZNdWf.3115$Po1.976@trndny01...[color=green]
>> We have a hiring freeze at work, and a number of people have left since
>> the freeze.
>>
>> THere is a salesperson that desparately needs an assistant. Since it is
>> somewhat close to what I do now, I offered to take on that position as
>> well as my own...for $4 an hour more, of course! THis would make me the
>> highest paid hourly worker in the company.
>>
>> However, it was turned down.
>> It's not fair.
>> The other people in the same job make what I make now. Maximum. So, to
>> pay me $4 an hour more isn't fair to the rest of the people in that
>> position.
>>
>> "But, I'll be doing the same job I am now, AND doing the other position
>> as well!!"
>>
>> "Well, it's not fair to the others!"
>>
>> So I turned it down. The whole idea was to make a few extra bucks, while
>> saving the company 3/4 of the usual salary, as well as benefits, etc.
>>
>> But, it's not fair.
>>
>> Is this like no-outcome based education? Like baseball or basketball
>> games where no one keeps score? Those aren't Fair either, remember?
>>
>> I love Liberalism.
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

You mean not fair to your employer? Can you pack the sixteen hours of
productivity, that both of the jobs management was paying for, into an eight
hour day? If you can you and the other worker must not have been doing
your jobs. ;)


mike hunt



"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:b2iWf.1942$Q9.1690@trndny07...[color=blue]
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:iYydnXMSrtqoDbTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> Fair has nothing to do with it, management has the right to schedule work
>> and working hours. How can one do a job properly yet take on the work of
>> another job? Seems if you have time to do additional work you are not
>> giving your employer the eight hours of work for which you are paid. If
>> you worked in a union shop, management would have to reclassify the
>> qualifications to for the new job, set a pay rate according to the skills
>> required for that new job, before they
>> can eliminate one of the jobs. ;)
>>
>> mike hunt[/color]
>
> Very simple: the two jobs are so closely related it would be very easy to
> incorporate the two, and I would be working 25 feet from where I am now.
> One is data entry and software verification (working the bugs out of the
> home-brew software)
> And the other is dealing with customers on the phone. I can walk and chew
> gum at the same time, and I have a twinhead type video card, so I can run
> two monitors.
>
> And, I pack 9 hours into an 8 hour day. It really wouldn't be difficult.
>
> It's just not fair.[/color]

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:WLGdnYB3nNSaI7TZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> You mean not fair to your employer? Can you pack the sixteen hours of
> productivity, that both of the jobs management was paying for, into an
> eight hour day? If you can you and the other worker must not have been
> doing your jobs. ;)
>
>
> mike hunt
>[/color]

Mike, you're thinking too much like a blue collar factory worker. There's no
limit on how much you can pile on a service worker. They're known to take on
more than they can chew and not finish what they volunteered for. It's
called job security. That $4 offer to his boss was just bait and it sounds
like the boss ain't gonna bite.

mark_

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 16:48:57 GMT, "hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
[color=blue]
>We have a hiring freeze at work, and a number of people have left since the
>freeze.
>
>THere is a salesperson that desparately needs an assistant. Since it is
>somewhat close to what I do now, I offered to take on that position as well
>as my own...for $4 an hour more, of course! THis would make me the highest
>paid hourly worker in the company.
>
>However, it was turned down.
>It's not fair.
>The other people in the same job make what I make now. Maximum. So, to pay
>me $4 an hour more isn't fair to the rest of the people in that position.
>
>"But, I'll be doing the same job I am now, AND doing the other position as
>well!!"
>
>"Well, it's not fair to the others!"
>
>So I turned it down. The whole idea was to make a few extra bucks, while
>saving the company 3/4 of the usual salary, as well as benefits, etc.
>
>But, it's not fair.
>
>Is this like no-outcome based education? Like baseball or basketball games
>where no one keeps score? Those aren't Fair either, remember?
>
>I love Liberalism.
>
>[/color]

Vote Dimocrat.....

They are the Libs...
--

Scott in Florida

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:04:03 -0500, mark_digital wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:WLGdnYB3nNSaI7TZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> You mean not fair to your employer? Can you pack the sixteen hours of
>> productivity, that both of the jobs management was paying for, into an
>> eight hour day? If you can you and the other worker must not have been
>> doing your jobs. ;)
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>[/color]
>
> Mike, you're thinking too much like a blue collar factory worker. There's no
> limit on how much you can pile on a service worker. They're known to take on
> more than they can chew and not finish what they volunteered for. It's
> called job security. That $4 offer to his boss was just bait and it sounds
> like the boss ain't gonna bite.
>
> mark_[/color]


LOL! Bait?
I ain't 'trolling' here!

I used to do Customer Service in a lot of jobs. I can handle Irate
customers, dumb customers, etc in a heartbeat.

Getting in over my head; that was a consideration on my part. But we have
a 'temporary guest worker', a kid from France, doing what I would
ordinarily do, so for the next 4 months there is plenty of time to give it
a whirl. If my head expoldes, well, I go back where I was.

But I don't think thqat would happen.

Unless Mike Hunter is a customer...

--
In the grand scheme fo things...
What difference does it make?

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:51:48 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:
[color=blue]
> You mean not fair to your employer? Can you pack the sixteen hours of
> productivity, that both of the jobs management was paying for, into an eight
> hour day? If you can you and the other worker must not have been doing
> your jobs. ;)
>
>
> mike hunt[/color]

the girl that had the job I was vying for before she laft was writing a
book...[color=blue]
>
>
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:b2iWf.1942$Q9.1690@trndny07...[color=green]
>>
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:iYydnXMSrtqoDbTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Fair has nothing to do with it, management has the right to schedule
>>> work and working hours. How can one do a job properly yet take on the
>>> work of another job? Seems if you have time to do additional work
>>> you are not giving your employer the eight hours of work for which you
>>> are paid. If you worked in a union shop, management would have to
>>> reclassify the qualifications to for the new job, set a pay rate
>>> according to the skills required for that new job, before they can
>>> eliminate one of the jobs. ;)
>>>
>>> mike hunt[/color]
>>
>> Very simple: the two jobs are so closely related it would be very easy
>> to incorporate the two, and I would be working 25 feet from where I am
>> now. One is data entry and software verification (working the bugs out
>> of the home-brew software)
>> And the other is dealing with customers on the phone. I can walk and
>> chew gum at the same time, and I have a twinhead type video card, so I
>> can run two monitors.
>>
>> And, I pack 9 hours into an 8 hour day. It really wouldn't be
>> difficult.
>>
>> It's just not fair.[/color][/color]

--
In the grand scheme fo things...
What difference does it make?

On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:39:19 GMT, "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>news:iYydnXMSrtqoDbTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> Fair has nothing to do with it, management has the right to schedule work
>> and working hours. How can one do a job properly yet take on the work of
>> another job? Seems if you have time to do additional work you are not
>> giving your employer the eight hours of work for which you are paid. If
>> you worked in a union shop, management would have to reclassify the
>> qualifications to for the new job, set a pay rate according to the skills
>> required for that new job, before they
>> can eliminate one of the jobs. ;)
>>
>> mike hunt[/color]
>
>Very simple: the two jobs are so closely related it would be very easy to
>incorporate the two, and I would be working 25 feet from where I am now.
>One is data entry and software verification (working the bugs out of the
>home-brew software)
>And the other is dealing with customers on the phone. I can walk and chew
>gum at the same time, and I have a twinhead type video card, so I can run
>two monitors.
>
>And, I pack 9 hours into an 8 hour day. It really wouldn't be difficult.
>
>It's just not fair.
>[/color]
[snip]

Just be glad your employer isn't *requiring* you to do both jobs, for
NO additional pay!
;-)

....

"noneyabusiness" <me@you.com> wrote in message
news:rj9k22d7ptkidc2086ubmo00f27uisciv5@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:39:19 GMT, "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>news:iYydnXMSrtqoDbTZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Fair has nothing to do with it, management has the right to schedule
>>> work
>>> and working hours. How can one do a job properly yet take on the work
>>> of
>>> another job? Seems if you have time to do additional work you are not
>>> giving your employer the eight hours of work for which you are paid.
>>> If
>>> you worked in a union shop, management would have to reclassify the
>>> qualifications to for the new job, set a pay rate according to the
>>> skills
>>> required for that new job, before they
>>> can eliminate one of the jobs. ;)
>>>
>>> mike hunt[/color]
>>
>>Very simple: the two jobs are so closely related it would be very easy to
>>incorporate the two, and I would be working 25 feet from where I am now.
>>One is data entry and software verification (working the bugs out of the
>>home-brew software)
>>And the other is dealing with customers on the phone. I can walk and chew
>>gum at the same time, and I have a twinhead type video card, so I can run
>>two monitors.
>>
>>And, I pack 9 hours into an 8 hour day. It really wouldn't be difficult.
>>
>>It's just not fair.
>>[/color]
> [snip]
>
> Just be glad your employer isn't *requiring* you to do both jobs, for
> NO additional pay!
> ;-)
>
> ...[/color]

I have to answer the phones in Reception, since the receptionist quit and
there is a hiring freeze.
The problem with this is, instead of being on the same floor where I do my
regular work, I'm two floors down.
Consequently, what I am SUPPOSED to do doesn't get done!

At least with the other job, I would be in the same area I am now, and could
interleave the two positions.