heavy smoking

I have a 2001 Toyota Corolla. I have been blowing smoke for a while
now. At over 200K, i think the engine is probably seeing its last days.
i have used those anti smoke liquid at each oil change, but it isn't
fixing the problem. My question is what could the cause of the smoking
( heavier at hwy speed)? and how can fix it?

Thanks

Sorry Mat: Reread this message and try to respond with a straight face!


"Mat" <mathzo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 2001 Toyota Corolla. I have been blowing smoke for a while
> now. At over 200K, i think the engine is probably seeing its last days.
> i have used those anti smoke liquid at each oil change, but it isn't
> fixing the problem. My question is what could the cause of the smoking
> ( heavier at hwy speed)? and how can fix it?
>
> Thanks
>[/color]

"Mat" <mathzo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I have a 2001 Toyota Corolla. I have been blowing smoke for a while
> now. At over 200K, i think the engine is probably seeing its last days.
> i have used those anti smoke liquid at each oil change, but it isn't
> fixing the problem. My question is what could the cause of the smoking
> ( heavier at hwy speed)? and how can fix it?
>
> Thanks[/color]

What color is the smoke? Black? Greyish-blue? White?
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Ray O
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"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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> "Mat" <mathzo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1144772723.250160.298790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>>I have a 2001 Toyota Corolla. I have been blowing smoke for a while
>> now. At over 200K, i think the engine is probably seeing its last days.
>> i have used those anti smoke liquid at each oil change, but it isn't
>> fixing the problem. My question is what could the cause of the smoking
>> ( heavier at hwy speed)? and how can fix it?
>>
>> Thanks[/color]
>
> What color is the smoke? Black? Greyish-blue? White?
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]


I dunno Ray...I think he's just Blowing smoke!

ok guys, very funny!!! the smoke is black when using 20w50, and greyish
with 10w30. i forgot to mention that the engine is burning about 2
quarts a week.

Sorry, Mat, it's a tough job, but somebody's got to do it! :)

Two quarts a week?!?!?! Have you got a leak somewhere?!?! Other than the
rings, of course.
Also, have you had it emissions tested? Your hydrocarbons must be through
the roof!

"Mat" <mathzo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> ok guys, very funny!!! the smoke is black when using 20w50, and greyish
> with 10w30. i forgot to mention that the engine is burning about 2
> quarts a week.
>[/color]

Passed last emissions, smoke wasn't that bad. May be 2 quarts could be
extreme.
It's clear that the engine oil is gettng into the combustion chamber,
but I am not really sure how to prevent it.

"Mat" <mathzo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Passed last emissions, smoke wasn't that bad. May be 2 quarts could be
> extreme.
> It's clear that the engine oil is gettng into the combustion chamber,
> but I am not really sure how to prevent it.
>[/color]

How many miles on this car????
Only 5 years old and smoking already?
Have you ever run it out of oil (or taken it to Jiffy Lube?)
Also, is there oil in the antifreeze?
Man, this doesn't seem likely unless there was some kind of drastic failure,
either a part
or Operator...sorry. Did you buy it new?

If oil is getting into the CC, there are basically two ways:
It's blowing by the rings, or it's seeping from the Overhead cam area.
Scratch that, make it three: there is also a possibility there is oil
seeping pas the valve cover gasket and
being sucked into the intake valves. Is there any raw oil in the exhaust
pipe?

If it's the third one, you might luck out and just need a valve cover
gasket, or at worst, a new valve cover.

200k, bought new , and yes have taken it to J.Lube on accasions.
yes there is some oil on the exhaust pipe. no oil the antifreeze, ran
ou tof oil may be twice.
yeah could have been the operator, was driven pretty hard from the get
go.
3 possibilities? how do i rules some out?

"Mat" <mathzo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> 200k, bought new , and yes have taken it to J.Lube on accasions.
> yes there is some oil on the exhaust pipe. no oil the antifreeze, ran
> ou tof oil may be twice.
> yeah could have been the operator, was driven pretty hard from the get
> go.
> 3 possibilities? how do i rules some out?
>[/color]

ooooh....200K

Drive it until it drops. Don't bother. Check the oil every 3-4 days and keep
it topped up. Do the regular oil changes (stop going to Jiffy Lube!).

Play taps for it in 6 months-3 years and go buy another one.

And DON'T take the new one to Jiffy Lube!

Realistically, the only thing I would do with this car is check the valve
cover and the valve cover gasket, and try to discover if oil is getting into
one of the intake or exhaust valves (you'll know when you take the valve
cover off!)

Do what you can up there. Anything else requires tearing the engine down,
and unless the thing is PRIMO!!, don't bother.
Or try to find a wreck that got nailed in the rear end and see what you can
get the engine for.

Roger that!!!
Thanks

time for a new engine!

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
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> Sorry Mat: Reread this message and try to respond with a straight face!
>
>[/color]
LOL gawd, I was thinking the same thing! I'm thinking like Hachi! This is
never good.

Natalie
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> "Mat" <mathzo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1144772723.250160.298790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>>I have a 2001 Toyota Corolla. I have been blowing smoke for a while
>> now. At over 200K, i think the engine is probably seeing its last days.
>> i have used those anti smoke liquid at each oil change, but it isn't
>> fixing the problem. My question is what could the cause of the smoking
>> ( heavier at hwy speed)? and how can fix it?
>>
>> Thanks
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 16:48:30 -0400, Wickeddoll® wrote:
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> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:cRQ_f.10049$_T5.3455@trndny08...[color=green]
>> Sorry Mat: Reread this message and try to respond with a straight face!
>>
>>[/color]
> LOL gawd, I was thinking the same thing! I'm thinking like Hachi! This is
> never good.
>
> Natalie[/color]

LOL! You're MINE, now!
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>> "Mat" <mathzo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1144772723.250160.298790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>>>I have a 2001 Toyota Corolla. I have been blowing smoke for a while
>>> now. At over 200K, i think the engine is probably seeing its last days.
>>> i have used those anti smoke liquid at each oil change, but it isn't
>>> fixing the problem. My question is what could the cause of the smoking
>>> ( heavier at hwy speed)? and how can fix it?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color][/color]

--
In the grand scheme fo things...
What difference does it make?

"Mat" <mathzo@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Roger that!!!
> Thanks
>[/color]
Check for oil in the intake/throttle area - you may have blocked breathers
forcing oil into the intake. Black smokes doesnt sound oily - im guessing
you're just colour blind :-) Even when my turbo started throwing oil in the
intake and out of the exhaust simultaniously to the point where it filled
the drive on startup i wasnt losing THAT much oil!

J