Change Air Filter

Hello again,

I'm looking at changing the standard box filter to a pod filter. I took my
celica to an auto shop, and the guy there said that i have a 2 1/2 inch
intake pipe, and that all the filters they had were 3 inch.

How do it get around this? and well, is it worth changing the filter in the
1st place, a few friends have done it and say they feel a difference, but
i'm not sure. Also alot of sites i've looked at say to get a CAI or a intake
system from Blitz, whats you take on that?

-Michael-

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:30:16 +0000, Michael wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hello again,
>
> I'm looking at changing the standard box filter to a pod filter. I took my
> celica to an auto shop, and the guy there said that i have a 2 1/2 inch
> intake pipe, and that all the filters they had were 3 inch.
>
> How do it get around this? and well, is it worth changing the filter in the
> 1st place, a few friends have done it and say they feel a difference, but
> i'm not sure. Also alot of sites i've looked at say to get a CAI or a intake
> system from Blitz, whats you take on that?
>
> -Michael-[/color]

Go to an auto part store like AutoZone or CarQuest and tell them what you
want to do.
I was working at a CarQuest and orderd a Pilot intake...for my Tercel!

They will be able to find what you need, and you don't have to cob
anything together.

You can also search EBAY for Mandrel Bent INtake and find someone that
will make one of has one already. A friend of mine found one for a
Chrysler Concorde!
Either that, or use a rubber adapter...but it can fall apart and allow
massive amounts of dirt into the engine...

--
In the grand scheme fo things...
What difference does it make?

"Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
news:c_W_f.4607$vy1.1253@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Which generation/year of celica are we talking about? Half of the time you
wont want to go for a pod filter without some sort of a heat-shielding box
as you'll just be sucking in hotter, less dense air and lose power. There
were some tests done on Celica GT-Fours and if i remember rightly they
*lost* around 5% power with a straight intake and pod with no airbox. They
had to construct a carbon airbox and put the pod inside with a cold air feed
from behind the headlight to get about 5% *gain*. This is turbocharged too,
you'll be looking at lower gains anyway.

J

"Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
news:c_W_f.4607$vy1.1253@news-server.bigpond.net.au...[color=blue]
> Hello again,
>
> I'm looking at changing the standard box filter to a pod filter. I took my
> celica to an auto shop, and the guy there said that i have a 2 1/2 inch
> intake pipe, and that all the filters they had were 3 inch.
>
> How do it get around this? and well, is it worth changing the filter in
> the
> 1st place, a few friends have done it and say they feel a difference, but
> i'm not sure. Also alot of sites i've looked at say to get a CAI or a
> intake
> system from Blitz, whats you take on that?
>
> -Michael-
>[/color]

Why do you want to change air filter type? If you are looking to improve
performance, one of the things that some aftermarket performance air filters
don't mention is that in order to let additional air flow into the engine,
some have larger pore sizes, which lets more dirt into the engine. For a
competition engine that is going to be torn down after one race or at the
end of a few seasons, then the dirt is less of a factor than if you want to
keep your car for a long time.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Coyoteboy" <coyoteboyuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:EdydneKTeo0X3KHZnZ2dnUVZ8qudnZ2d@bt.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
> news:c_W_f.4607$vy1.1253@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> Which generation/year of celica are we talking about? Half of the time you
> wont want to go for a pod filter without some sort of a heat-shielding box
> as you'll just be sucking in hotter, less dense air and lose power. There
> were some tests done on Celica GT-Fours and if i remember rightly they
> *lost* around 5% power with a straight intake and pod with no airbox. They
> had to construct a carbon airbox and put the pod inside with a cold air[/color]
feed[color=blue]
> from behind the headlight to get about 5% *gain*. This is turbocharged[/color]
too,[color=blue]
> you'll be looking at lower gains anyway.
>
> J
>
>[/color]

Its a 98 sx, i'd prolly put the filter near the intake for the air box,
which is piped from the side, which the air should be colder that that of
around the engine. But I get your point of the mini gain, this is why i'm
researching it first to see if its worth doing.

-Michael-

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
news:1cd76$443c4356$44a4a10d$22020@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
> news:c_W_f.4607$vy1.1253@news-server.bigpond.net.au...[color=green]
> > Hello again,
> >
> > I'm looking at changing the standard box filter to a pod filter. I took[/color][/color]
my[color=blue][color=green]
> > celica to an auto shop, and the guy there said that i have a 2 1/2 inch
> > intake pipe, and that all the filters they had were 3 inch.
> >
> > How do it get around this? and well, is it worth changing the filter in
> > the
> > 1st place, a few friends have done it and say they feel a difference,[/color][/color]
but[color=blue][color=green]
> > i'm not sure. Also alot of sites i've looked at say to get a CAI or a
> > intake
> > system from Blitz, whats you take on that?
> >
> > -Michael-
> >[/color]
>
> Why do you want to change air filter type? If you are looking to improve
> performance, one of the things that some aftermarket performance air[/color]
filters[color=blue]
> don't mention is that in order to let additional air flow into the engine,
> some have larger pore sizes, which lets more dirt into the engine. For a
> competition engine that is going to be torn down after one race or at the
> end of a few seasons, then the dirt is less of a factor than if you want[/color]
to[color=blue]
> keep your car for a long time.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>
>[/color]

Thanks Ray,

I'm not thinking of getting a race performace filter, but just getting a
better one. The reason is that mates have changed the filters and swear that
it has made a 'feelable' difference, i'd like to see if they're right and if
it did make a difference to my car.

-Michael-

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:tbX_f.4242$ee6.3160@trndny01...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 23:30:16 +0000, Michael wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Hello again,
> >
> > I'm looking at changing the standard box filter to a pod filter. I took[/color][/color]
my[color=blue][color=green]
> > celica to an auto shop, and the guy there said that i have a 2 1/2 inch
> > intake pipe, and that all the filters they had were 3 inch.
> >
> > How do it get around this? and well, is it worth changing the filter in[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > 1st place, a few friends have done it and say they feel a difference,[/color][/color]
but[color=blue][color=green]
> > i'm not sure. Also alot of sites i've looked at say to get a CAI or a[/color][/color]
intake[color=blue][color=green]
> > system from Blitz, whats you take on that?
> >
> > -Michael-[/color]
>
> Go to an auto part store like AutoZone or CarQuest and tell them what you
> want to do.
> I was working at a CarQuest and orderd a Pilot intake...for my Tercel!
>
> They will be able to find what you need, and you don't have to cob
> anything together.
>
> You can also search EBAY for Mandrel Bent INtake and find someone that
> will make one of has one already. A friend of mine found one for a
> Chrysler Concorde!
> Either that, or use a rubber adapter...but it can fall apart and allow
> massive amounts of dirt into the engine...
>
> --
> In the grand scheme fo things...
> What difference does it make?
>[/color]

I went to 'Autobarn' and 'Super Cheap Auto' and neither of the places had
what I needed, might check 'Repco" out too, and yeh I was thinking about
having a look around on ebay, seeing what was on offer.

-Michael-

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:22:07 +0000, Michael wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
> news:1cd76$443c4356$44a4a10d$22020@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
>> news:c_W_f.4607$vy1.1253@news-server.bigpond.net.au...[color=darkred]
>> > Hello again,
>> >
>> > I'm looking at changing the standard box filter to a pod filter. I took[/color][/color]
> my[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > celica to an auto shop, and the guy there said that i have a 2 1/2 inch
>> > intake pipe, and that all the filters they had were 3 inch.
>> >
>> > How do it get around this? and well, is it worth changing the filter in
>> > the
>> > 1st place, a few friends have done it and say they feel a difference,[/color][/color]
> but[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > i'm not sure. Also alot of sites i've looked at say to get a CAI or a
>> > intake
>> > system from Blitz, whats you take on that?
>> >
>> > -Michael-
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Why do you want to change air filter type? If you are looking to improve
>> performance, one of the things that some aftermarket performance air[/color]
> filters[color=green]
>> don't mention is that in order to let additional air flow into the engine,
>> some have larger pore sizes, which lets more dirt into the engine. For a
>> competition engine that is going to be torn down after one race or at the
>> end of a few seasons, then the dirt is less of a factor than if you want[/color]
> to[color=green]
>> keep your car for a long time.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> I'm not thinking of getting a race performace filter, but just getting a
> better one. The reason is that mates have changed the filters and swear that
> it has made a 'feelable' difference, i'd like to see if they're right and if
> it did make a difference to my car.
>
> -Michael-[/color]

I did it on a '95 Tercel.
Laugh not! It made a difference right off the line with slightly imporved
(but noticable!) throttle response.

And it also bumped the car from 39 MPG to 44 MPG, and that with an
Automatic transmission!

The MFG's instructions were to oil the filter and clean and oil it every
30,000 miles. Screw that! I noticed it was drying out after about 8
months, so I bought a cleaning kit and cleaned and oiled it about every
12,000 miles or approx 6 months. If the oil is moist, you stand a much
better chance of stopping a larger amount of dirt and dust. Inspect it
often, and if it's getting dry or dusty, clean it and oil it!

I also kept an eye on the inside of the tube; it was always nice and clean.


--
In the grand scheme fo things...
What difference does it make?

"Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
news:3DY_f.4676$vy1.1023@news-server.bigpond.net.au...[color=blue]
>
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
> news:1cd76$443c4356$44a4a10d$22020@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
>> news:c_W_f.4607$vy1.1253@news-server.bigpond.net.au...[color=darkred]
>> > Hello again,
>> >
>> > I'm looking at changing the standard box filter to a pod filter. I took[/color][/color]
> my[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > celica to an auto shop, and the guy there said that i have a 2 1/2 inch
>> > intake pipe, and that all the filters they had were 3 inch.
>> >
>> > How do it get around this? and well, is it worth changing the filter in
>> > the
>> > 1st place, a few friends have done it and say they feel a difference,[/color][/color]
> but[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > i'm not sure. Also alot of sites i've looked at say to get a CAI or a
>> > intake
>> > system from Blitz, whats you take on that?
>> >
>> > -Michael-
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Why do you want to change air filter type? If you are looking to improve
>> performance, one of the things that some aftermarket performance air[/color]
> filters[color=green]
>> don't mention is that in order to let additional air flow into the
>> engine,
>> some have larger pore sizes, which lets more dirt into the engine. For a
>> competition engine that is going to be torn down after one race or at the
>> end of a few seasons, then the dirt is less of a factor than if you want[/color]
> to[color=green]
>> keep your car for a long time.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Thanks Ray,
>
> I'm not thinking of getting a race performace filter, but just getting a
> better one. The reason is that mates have changed the filters and swear
> that
> it has made a 'feelable' difference, i'd like to see if they're right and
> if
> it did make a difference to my car.
>
> -Michael-
>
>[/color]
In this case, you have to define "better." A filter that allows air to pass
through more freely will improve performance, throttle response, etc.
Whether it will shorten the life of the engine significantly or whether
performance will improve enough to be noticeable depends on the filter. A
filter that traps more particulates might also be described as "better" but
it may do so with a performance penalty. It sounds like you are looking
for improved performance and if so, I would stick with a name brand like
K&N.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:4tZ_f.6871$aE.150@trndny04...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 01:22:07 +0000, Michael wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
> > news:1cd76$443c4356$44a4a10d$22020@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> "Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
> >> news:c_W_f.4607$vy1.1253@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >> > Hello again,
> >> >
> >> > I'm looking at changing the standard box filter to a pod filter. I[/color][/color][/color]
took[color=blue][color=green]
> > my[color=darkred]
> >> > celica to an auto shop, and the guy there said that i have a 2 1/2[/color][/color][/color]
inch[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > intake pipe, and that all the filters they had were 3 inch.
> >> >
> >> > How do it get around this? and well, is it worth changing the filter[/color][/color][/color]
in[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > the
> >> > 1st place, a few friends have done it and say they feel a difference,[/color]
> > but[color=darkred]
> >> > i'm not sure. Also alot of sites i've looked at say to get a CAI or a
> >> > intake
> >> > system from Blitz, whats you take on that?
> >> >
> >> > -Michael-
> >> >
> >>
> >> Why do you want to change air filter type? If you are looking to[/color][/color][/color]
improve[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> performance, one of the things that some aftermarket performance air[/color]
> > filters[color=darkred]
> >> don't mention is that in order to let additional air flow into the[/color][/color][/color]
engine,[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> some have larger pore sizes, which lets more dirt into the engine. For[/color][/color][/color]
a[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> competition engine that is going to be torn down after one race or at[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> end of a few seasons, then the dirt is less of a factor than if you[/color][/color][/color]
want[color=blue][color=green]
> > to[color=darkred]
> >> keep your car for a long time.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ray O
> >> (correct punctuation to reply)
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> >
> > I'm not thinking of getting a race performace filter, but just getting a
> > better one. The reason is that mates have changed the filters and swear[/color][/color]
that[color=blue][color=green]
> > it has made a 'feelable' difference, i'd like to see if they're right[/color][/color]
and if[color=blue][color=green]
> > it did make a difference to my car.
> >
> > -Michael-[/color]
>
> I did it on a '95 Tercel.
> Laugh not! It made a difference right off the line with slightly imporved
> (but noticable!) throttle response.
>
> And it also bumped the car from 39 MPG to 44 MPG, and that with an
> Automatic transmission!
>
> The MFG's instructions were to oil the filter and clean and oil it every
> 30,000 miles. Screw that! I noticed it was drying out after about 8
> months, so I bought a cleaning kit and cleaned and oiled it about every
> 12,000 miles or approx 6 months. If the oil is moist, you stand a much
> better chance of stopping a larger amount of dirt and dust. Inspect it
> often, and if it's getting dry or dusty, clean it and oil it!
>
> I also kept an eye on the inside of the tube; it was always nice and[/color]
clean.[color=blue]
>
>
> --
> In the grand scheme fo things...
> What difference does it make?
>[/color]

Sweet,

I don't know the mpg for my car, but out of the last tank, i got 460kms and
that was pushing it, 3k shifts, slow acceleration but normally I get around
about the 400km for a tank, which isn't half bad compared to the old
commadorre we had, it barly made 350km a tank, and its tank was like
70ltrs!. So yer, I think i'll grab a new filter on my next day off.

Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it. :)

-Michael-

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
news:d65c6$443c74ab$180fead6$32451@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
> news:3DY_f.4676$vy1.1023@news-server.bigpond.net.au...[color=green]
> >
> > "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
> > news:1cd76$443c4356$44a4a10d$22020@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> "Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
> >> news:c_W_f.4607$vy1.1253@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >> > Hello again,
> >> >
> >> > I'm looking at changing the standard box filter to a pod filter. I[/color][/color][/color]
took[color=blue][color=green]
> > my[color=darkred]
> >> > celica to an auto shop, and the guy there said that i have a 2 1/2[/color][/color][/color]
inch[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > intake pipe, and that all the filters they had were 3 inch.
> >> >
> >> > How do it get around this? and well, is it worth changing the filter[/color][/color][/color]
in[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > the
> >> > 1st place, a few friends have done it and say they feel a difference,[/color]
> > but[color=darkred]
> >> > i'm not sure. Also alot of sites i've looked at say to get a CAI or a
> >> > intake
> >> > system from Blitz, whats you take on that?
> >> >
> >> > -Michael-
> >> >
> >>
> >> Why do you want to change air filter type? If you are looking to[/color][/color][/color]
improve[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> performance, one of the things that some aftermarket performance air[/color]
> > filters[color=darkred]
> >> don't mention is that in order to let additional air flow into the
> >> engine,
> >> some have larger pore sizes, which lets more dirt into the engine. For[/color][/color][/color]
a[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> competition engine that is going to be torn down after one race or at[/color][/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> end of a few seasons, then the dirt is less of a factor than if you[/color][/color][/color]
want[color=blue][color=green]
> > to[color=darkred]
> >> keep your car for a long time.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ray O
> >> (correct punctuation to reply)
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >
> > Thanks Ray,
> >
> > I'm not thinking of getting a race performace filter, but just getting a
> > better one. The reason is that mates have changed the filters and swear
> > that
> > it has made a 'feelable' difference, i'd like to see if they're right[/color][/color]
and[color=blue][color=green]
> > if
> > it did make a difference to my car.
> >
> > -Michael-
> >
> >[/color]
> In this case, you have to define "better." A filter that allows air to[/color]
pass[color=blue]
> through more freely will improve performance, throttle response, etc.
> Whether it will shorten the life of the engine significantly or whether
> performance will improve enough to be noticeable depends on the filter. A
> filter that traps more particulates might also be described as "better"[/color]
but[color=blue]
> it may do so with a performance penalty. It sounds like you are looking
> for improved performance and if so, I would stick with a name brand like
> K&N.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>
>[/color]

Ray,

Yeh i'm gunna get me a K&N filter, but I just have to find a place that has
one with a 2 1/2 inch inlet, most have 3inch inlets >< and i'm gunna get
some ducting done too. Mate did it to his car recently, and he's offered to
help me so I just have to find the damn filter, then get the ducting and
then fix it in place and bobs your uncle.

-Michael-

"Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
news:D%%_f.4769$vy1.3219@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
<snipped>
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> > Thanks Ray,
>> >
>> > I'm not thinking of getting a race performace filter, but just getting
>> > a
>> > better one. The reason is that mates have changed the filters and swear
>> > that
>> > it has made a 'feelable' difference, i'd like to see if they're right[/color][/color]
> and[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > if
>> > it did make a difference to my car.
>> >
>> > -Michael-
>> >
>> >[/color]
>> In this case, you have to define "better." A filter that allows air to[/color]
> pass[color=green]
>> through more freely will improve performance, throttle response, etc.
>> Whether it will shorten the life of the engine significantly or whether
>> performance will improve enough to be noticeable depends on the filter.
>> A
>> filter that traps more particulates might also be described as "better"[/color]
> but[color=green]
>> it may do so with a performance penalty. It sounds like you are
>> looking
>> for improved performance and if so, I would stick with a name brand like
>> K&N.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Ray,
>
> Yeh i'm gunna get me a K&N filter, but I just have to find a place that
> has
> one with a 2 1/2 inch inlet, most have 3inch inlets >< and i'm gunna get
> some ducting done too. Mate did it to his car recently, and he's offered
> to
> help me so I just have to find the damn filter, then get the ducting and
> then fix it in place and bobs your uncle.
>
> -Michael-
>
>[/color]

One of the things you have to be careful about with air filters that use oil
to trap dirt is not putting too much oil on the media. Too much oil can
foul some mass air flow meters. Have fun with the project!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
news:bafcd$443c914b$180fead6$778@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Michael" <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote in message
> news:D%%_f.4769$vy1.3219@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> <snipped>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > Thanks Ray,
> >> >
> >> > I'm not thinking of getting a race performace filter, but just[/color][/color][/color]
getting[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > a
> >> > better one. The reason is that mates have changed the filters and[/color][/color][/color]
swear[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > that
> >> > it has made a 'feelable' difference, i'd like to see if they're right[/color]
> > and[color=darkred]
> >> > if
> >> > it did make a difference to my car.
> >> >
> >> > -Michael-
> >> >
> >> >
> >> In this case, you have to define "better." A filter that allows air to[/color]
> > pass[color=darkred]
> >> through more freely will improve performance, throttle response, etc.
> >> Whether it will shorten the life of the engine significantly or whether
> >> performance will improve enough to be noticeable depends on the filter.
> >> A
> >> filter that traps more particulates might also be described as "better"[/color]
> > but[color=darkred]
> >> it may do so with a performance penalty. It sounds like you are
> >> looking
> >> for improved performance and if so, I would stick with a name brand[/color][/color][/color]
like[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> K&N.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ray O
> >> (correct punctuation to reply)
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >
> > Ray,
> >
> > Yeh i'm gunna get me a K&N filter, but I just have to find a place that
> > has
> > one with a 2 1/2 inch inlet, most have 3inch inlets >< and i'm gunna get
> > some ducting done too. Mate did it to his car recently, and he's offered
> > to
> > help me so I just have to find the damn filter, then get the ducting and
> > then fix it in place and bobs your uncle.
> >
> > -Michael-
> >
> >[/color]
>
> One of the things you have to be careful about with air filters that use[/color]
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> to trap dirt is not putting too much oil on the media. Too much oil can
> foul some mass air flow meters. Have fun with the project!
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>
>[/color]

Thats a good point, come to think of it, where would I put the air flow
sensor? I'm thinking it would be after the filter?

Also, if I got a 3inch filter and got an exhaust place to get a 2 1/2inch
pipe, flare it at one end to the 3inch, would that work? Or should I stay
with the 2 1/2?

-Michael-

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> Thats a good point, come to think of it, where would I put the air flow
> sensor? I'm thinking it would be after the filter?
>[/color]

The wire harness to the mass air flow sensor is probably not long enough to
allow much movement, and I never recommend cutting factory harnesses because
they are so expensive to replace. The sensor should be after the filter
because it has to measure the air actually getting into the intake and you
don't want it subjected to any debris that enters the intake. Bottom line,
whatever you rig should not disturb the current location of the MAF.
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> Also, if I got a 3inch filter and got an exhaust place to get a 2 1/2inch
> pipe, flare it at one end to the 3inch, would that work? Or should I stay
> with the 2 1/2?
>
> -Michael-
>[/color]
That would work although it seems like a lot of trouble.

Toyota Racing Development (TRD) is a Toyota affiliate and has stuff that
carries a warranty backed by Toyota. The web site for their U.S. operation
is [url]http://www.trdusa.com/[/url] You might want to check and see if TRD sells
products in your area. They may have an application specifically designed
for your car and you know it won't mess up the car.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 05:51:36 GMT, Michael <Michael@displayitpockets.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> Also, if I got a 3inch filter and got an exhaust place to get a 2 1/2inch
> pipe, flare it at one end to the 3inch, would that work?[/color]

That'd be fine. Any kind of airtight adapter would be fine.

More performance requires more airflow. Only two ways to get more air
thru a filter -- bigger pores (holes, meaning more dirt with the air),
or more pores (meaning a bigger filter). Of course, a filter can
combine those two techniques in any ratio... Like the K&N.

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