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Old 04-14-2006, 07:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
Henry Kolesnik
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new Camry ?

I've got an 05 LE 4 cylinder with about 20,000 trouble free miles and I just
noticed in Consumers Reports that the new Camry has an Avalon body. Is this
true and if so how does it compare to mine? Is it a bigger car and if so
where's the room and how does a 4 banger perform? I need to get over to the
dealer and see one but it's such a pain, if you know what I mean.

tnx
Hank


 
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Old 04-14-2006, 08:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: new Camry ?

"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2mW%f.10912$4L1.3256@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> I've got an 05 LE 4 cylinder with about 20,000 trouble free miles and I
> just noticed in Consumers Reports that the new Camry has an Avalon body.
> Is this true and if so how does it compare to mine? Is it a bigger car
> and if so where's the room and how does a 4 banger perform? I need to get
> over to the dealer and see one but it's such a pain, if you know what I
> mean.
>
> tnx
> Hank[/color]

The 2007 Camry was just introduced. You can find the specs on the Toyota
website, and comparative specs with your 2005 on places like Vehix.com.

There is also a hybrid gas-electric version for 2007.

If you do go to a dealer, then you might want to call in advance to make
sure they have some in stock.


 
Old 04-14-2006, 10:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: new Camry ?

On Fri, 14 Apr 2006 23:36:30 +0000, Henry Kolesnik wrote:
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> I've got an 05 LE 4 cylinder with about 20,000 trouble free miles and I just
> noticed in Consumers Reports that the new Camry has an Avalon body. Is this
> true and if so how does it compare to mine? Is it a bigger car and if so
> where's the room and how does a 4 banger perform? I need to get over to the
> dealer and see one but it's such a pain, if you know what I mean.
>
> tnx
> Hank[/color]

I wouldn't call it exactly an Avalon body.
I saw one on the road today, first one I have seen outside of pictures or
TV.


WWOOWW!!!!!! I LIKE IT!!!!!



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Old 04-15-2006, 02:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: new Camry ?

Saw one in Hawaii last week while on vacation. Did a double take as I have
a '06 Avalon. First glance is "hey that's my car with an updated headlight
setup!". Saw two more today in my neck of the woods. Upon closer
inspection , I agree it's not exactly an Avalon but the design ques are
unmistakeable.

"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2mW%f.10912$4L1.3256@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> I've got an 05 LE 4 cylinder with about 20,000 trouble free miles and I
> just noticed in Consumers Reports that the new Camry has an Avalon body.
> Is this true and if so how does it compare to mine? Is it a bigger car
> and if so where's the room and how does a 4 banger perform? I need to get
> over to the dealer and see one but it's such a pain, if you know what I
> mean.
>
> tnx
> Hank
>[/color]


 
Old 04-15-2006, 11:20 AM   #5 (permalink)
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
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>
> I wouldn't call it exactly an Avalon body.[/color]

Perhaps they share the same platform? From looking on Google for a moment,
it looks like they've shared it for a while.

Regards,

Robin


 
Old 04-15-2006, 12:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: new Camry ?

I just saw what must be an 07 Camry and it's image is one that could pass
for an Avalon. So I guess they must use the same platform which is probably
a very smart idea to reduce styling and die costs. Avalon owners may not
like that unless the Avalons are priced better because of the cost savings.
Now to see if anyone has driven a 4 banger and how it compares to last
years.
tnx
Hank
"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:2mW%f.10912$4L1.3256@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...[color=blue]
> I've got an 05 LE 4 cylinder with about 20,000 trouble free miles and I
> just noticed in Consumers Reports that the new Camry has an Avalon body.
> Is this true and if so how does it compare to mine? Is it a bigger car
> and if so where's the room and how does a 4 banger perform? I need to get
> over to the dealer and see one but it's such a pain, if you know what I
> mean.
>
> tnx
> Hank
>[/color]


 
Old 04-15-2006, 03:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: new Camry ?

Seems to me the Avalon has always used the Camry chassis.


mike


"Robin S." <lasernerd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:c1Z%f.716$UK5.494@trndny01...
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>>
>> I wouldn't call it exactly an Avalon body.[/color]
>
> Perhaps they share the same platform? From looking on Google for a moment,
> it looks like they've shared it for a while.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robin
>[/color]


 
Old 04-15-2006, 09:46 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: new Camry ?

I drove an 07 (4 cyl.) about a month ago or more (here in FLa-dealer
actually paid me 10 bucks to try it out). I found it to be very
seductive. Almost had me buying, even though I swore off impulsive car
buys. I have a perfectly functioning 01 Camry.

It was, however, a bit shifty. It shifts twice as often as my 01. The
one I drove had a J vin number of course as all the first run will. That
right there almost had me writing a check.

Other than the shiftyness, It was great. About the same size and weight
as the 06, just better engineering. The grill, the interior have the
most changes. My 01 camry now feels like a corolla. I think the new
corollas are as big as my 01 Camry...
CP

 
Old 04-16-2006, 10:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:06:22 +0000, Henry Kolesnik wrote:
[color=blue]
> I just saw what must be an 07 Camry and it's image is one that could pass
> for an Avalon. So I guess they must use the same platform which is probably
> a very smart idea to reduce styling and die costs.[/color]

THe Avalon has always been based on the Camry platform, as has the Sienna.


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Old 04-16-2006, 10:40 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: new Camry ?

On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 21:46:09 -0400, Charles Pisano wrote:
[color=blue]
> I drove an 07 (4 cyl.) about a month ago or more (here in FLa-dealer
> actually paid me 10 bucks to try it out). I found it to be very
> seductive. Almost had me buying, even though I swore off impulsive car
> buys. I have a perfectly functioning 01 Camry.
>
> It was, however, a bit shifty. It shifts twice as often as my 01. The
> one I drove had a J vin number of course as all the first run will. That
> right there almost had me writing a check.
>
> Other than the shiftyness, It was great. About the same size and weight
> as the 06, just better engineering. The grill, the interior have the
> most changes. My 01 camry now feels like a corolla. I think the new
> corollas are as big as my 01 Camry...
> CP[/color]

I beleive it has a six-speed AT, and is programmed for economy.


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What difference does it make?

 
Old 04-16-2006, 01:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: new Camry ?

So does that mean that Toyota will make more on both vehicles or pass some
savings on each or what?
"Robin S." <lasernerd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:1Gs0g.1484$9.918@trndny04...[color=green]
>> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:06:22 +0000, Henry Kolesnik wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I just saw what must be an 07 Camry and it's image is one that could
>>> pass
>>> for an Avalon. So I guess they must use the same platform which is
>>> probably
>>> a very smart idea to reduce styling and die costs.[/color]
>>[/color]
>
> How does that reduce styling costs? The each body is different. That's
> roughly twenty panels (inners and outers) costing perhaps $30+ million in
> dies.
>
> The dies for the chassis is where you save your money, and obviously in
> production scale.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robin
>[/color]


 
Old 04-16-2006, 01:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: new Camry ?

Then why does Consumers Report say the new Camry will have more room like
the Avalon?
"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 15 Apr 2006 16:06:22 +0000, Henry Kolesnik wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I just saw what must be an 07 Camry and it's image is one that could pass
>> for an Avalon. So I guess they must use the same platform which is
>> probably
>> a very smart idea to reduce styling and die costs.[/color]
>
> THe Avalon has always been based on the Camry platform, as has the Sienna.
>
>
> --
> In the grand scheme fo things...
> What difference does it make?
>[/color]


 
Old 04-16-2006, 02:02 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Will a vehhicle a J VIN be better than one made over here? And if so why?
"Charles Pisano" <pisanochas@webtv.net> wrote in message
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>I drove an 07 (4 cyl.) about a month ago or more (here in FLa-dealer
> actually paid me 10 bucks to try it out). I found it to be very
> seductive. Almost had me buying, even though I swore off impulsive car
> buys. I have a perfectly functioning 01 Camry.
>
> It was, however, a bit shifty. It shifts twice as often as my 01. The
> one I drove had a J vin number of course as all the first run will. That
> right there almost had me writing a check.
>
> Other than the shiftyness, It was great. About the same size and weight
> as the 06, just better engineering. The grill, the interior have the
> most changes. My 01 camry now feels like a corolla. I think the new
> corollas are as big as my 01 Camry...
> CP
>[/color]


 
Old 04-16-2006, 02:41 PM   #14 (permalink)
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"Henry Kolesnik" <kolesnik@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> So does that mean that Toyota will make more on both vehicles or pass some
> savings on each or what?[/color]

The cars would certainly be more expensive to produce if they had their own
platforms. The entire auto industry is under huge cost reduction pressures
so I can't imagine any OEM would be inclined to pocket the extra cash, or at
least not completely. There is much more to pricing a car than simply build
costs.

Regards,

Robin


 
Old 04-16-2006, 02:49 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Henry Kolesnik wrote:
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> Will a vehhicle a J VIN be better than one made over here? And if so why?[/color]

There's no difference.
 
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