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Old 04-18-2006, 04:22 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Re: My first Prius rage

DH (dh@stargate.com) wrote:

: As long as the last car in line makes it through the first light, what's the
: big deal? You were ALL going to stop at the second, anyway. He's just
: helping you save your brakes and a little gas. Drive that way all the time
: and save some money.

I have money to burn but am rather short on time. What is more, I LIKE
accelerating fast and driving fast.

: And, as for "Prius Rage" being in the news, you'll have to post a link.
: This is the first I've heard of it. Prius drivers around here appear to
: behave fairly normally.

Other than purchasing economically unviable cars that is?

Did the car have an E-RACISM bumper sticker. I find those hilarious.
Do these people actually think they are slowly convincing the last of
the pro-racism lobby through bumper sticker activism?

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Old 04-18-2006, 04:44 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Re: My first Prius rage

In article <qe6dnebGr7TPu9jZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"mark_digital" <xxx976@comcast.com> wrote:

[color=blue]
> Hmm Hmm. And did you like the C-130? The reason I ask is because I had a
> hand in some design and manufacturing changes to the propulsion, basically
> because the Air Force knew it was over designed, and because of that and
> budget we had to cut some corners.[/color]

Who did you work for Allison in Indianapolis? What corners were cut?
When? Just curious.
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Old 04-18-2006, 05:00 PM   #63 (permalink)
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"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
news:e23kcc$b3@u1.netgate.net...[color=blue]
>
>
> DH <dh@stargate.com> writes:
>
> : You mean a control freak and an inconsiderate asshole? *That*
> : kind of guy?
>[color=green]
> > No. Just a guy who doesn't like to drive terribly fast.[/color]
>
> Being a guy who doesn't drive terribly fast isn't bad, in itself.
> Being a guy who doesn't drive terribly fast and not staying out
> from underfoot is a different matter.
>
> I live in the mountains and get to and from the freeway via 17
> miles of two-lane mountain road. I deal with such people often.
> A lot of people who live in my area are slow drivers with control
> issues (overly-tolerant Santa Cruz County is a magnet for misfits
> of all sorts), so I'm more than familiar with the type.
>[/color]

You're presuming a particular motive for a particular behavior when you have
zilch for evidence of motive.
[color=blue][color=green]
> > If a faster driver wants to go around them and does so, legally, fine.
> > Although a "salute" is not necessary, in case you were wondering.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > If there's no room, then they'll just have to wait. Or are you
> > saying the slower driver SHOULD be forced to speed up UNTIL the
> > faster driver can pass and then he may slow down?[/color]
>
> No. I'm saying that the slower driver should *voluntarily* speed up,
> out of consideration and common courtesy, until such time as a passing
> lane appears or he can make use of a turnout to let the faster driver by.
>
> Doing the posted speed limit would be fine; that's all I can reasonably
> ask of anyone. Accelerating to a speed that was fast enough to open up
> some space between his car and mine, as the driver ahead of me on my
> way home from work yesterday did, would be icing on the proverbial cake.
>
> Isn't this the sort of "do unto others" etiquette that we all learned
> in driver education? It's amazing how quickly people forget the funda-
> mentals, not to mention how much emotional baggage they accumulate as
> time goes by.
>
> The funny thing is, most of these same people would probably have no
> issue with staying out of other people's way on foot, like, say, in
> a supermarket or shopping mall. But put them behind the wheel, and
> somehow their attitude changes. It reminds me of Mr. Walker and Mr.
> Wheeler in that old, animated Disney driver's-education film, only
> remade to showcase *passive*-aggression instead of the active sort.
>
>[color=green]
> > Hmmm... that can't be, because you just said that faster drivers
> > don't want to force slower drivers to move at their (faster)
> > preferred pace.[/color]
>
> I think you're going out of your way to misunderstand what I write.
>
> I didn't advocate forcing slower drivers to move at a faster pace.
> I advocated slower drivers not forcing faster drivers to move at
> *their* chosen pace. Letting people pass you isn't capitulation
> or an affront to your masculinity. How could it be? It's some-
> thing that's done voluntarily.
>[/color]

No, I understand exactly what you write. You want slower drivers to speed
up. You advocate slower drivers speeding up to match the faster driver's
pace, you don't want faster drivers slowing down to match the slower
driver's pace. You think people should be considerate. Considerate of the
faster driver.

Who said anything about not permitting passing?

[color=blue]
>[color=green]
> > Since you asked, I'd say "Western Driver" and his ilk need to be
> > reminded that it's not their own private thoroughfare.[/color]
>
> If everybody would endeavor to stay out of everybody else's way,
> none of us would have to give a moment's thought to whose private
> thoroughfare it is or isn't. What could be simpler?
>
>
> : "I smear the road with bicycles." -- Phillip J. Birmingham
>[color=green]
> > That's indicative.[/color]
>
> Of what? That's relevant to this thread, I mean?
>
>[color=green]
> > By the way, the slower driver leading the parade today was driving a
> > late-model Mercury Mountaineer. He was dawdling his way through an
> > inadequately timed intersection and, because he didn't move out smartly,
> > some people behind him had to wait, idling, for an extra minute or two
> > for that light to change again.[/color]
>[color=green]
> > Is that a death-penalty offense or should I just key his car and leave
> > it at that?[/color]
>
> Why does something need to be a death-penalty or vandalism-worthy offense
> in order to be worthy of being taken seriously?
>
>
>
> Geoff
>
> --
> "Everything would be just wonderful if people who don't really know
> anything about this exotic philosophical stuff would just shut the
> fuck up and watch their television." -- [email]steve49152@yahoo.ca[/email]
>[/color]


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Old 04-18-2006, 05:37 PM   #64 (permalink)
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"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
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> The funny thing is, most of these same people would probably have no
> issue with staying out of other people's way on foot, like, say, in
> a supermarket or shopping mall. But put them behind the wheel, and
> somehow their attitude changes. It reminds me of Mr. Walker and Mr.
> Wheeler in that old, animated Disney driver's-education film, only
> remade to showcase *passive*-aggression instead of the active sort.[/color]

I had a woman push me with her carriage at the check out. I asked her why
and she said I was taking too long. She was with her husband, who incidently
stood quiet and shook his head in disgust at what she did.
I 've had cashiers that were so concerned about the customer line they
crushed the bread and tipped over the carbonated sodas. The baggers over
filled the bags and crushed the eggs. They put bananas in first and piled
heavy stuff on top. Why all this nonsense?? Because they assumed too much.
Maybe they saw ONE person act impatient. Big deal. There's a reason why the
candy bars are right in back of them. Take one and chill out.

 
Old 04-18-2006, 05:48 PM   #65 (permalink)
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n5hsr wrote:
[color=blue]
>"dizzy" wrote:[/color]
[color=blue][color=green]
>> n5hsr wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>We smoked an idiot kid in a Grand Am the other day.[/color]
>>
>> Wow![/color]
>
>Well the kid sat there reving his engine at the light. He had a V6, had he
>known how to drive it, he should have been able to beat us off the line.
>The Previa is only a 4, and has 161 hp moving 4200 lbs.[/color]

Eh? I took your "S/C" as meaning that you had a supercharger
installed?
[color=blue]
>His car couldn't
>have weighed more than 3000 lbs. But then again, my brother used to be able
>to beat Z-28's back in the '80's with a stock 77 Corolla (2T-C) in the
>quarter mile.[/color]

Those were some sad days for American "muscle" cars...

 
Old 04-18-2006, 05:49 PM   #66 (permalink)
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"The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
news:Relaxand-722A5D.16443218042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=blue]
> In article <qe6dnebGr7TPu9jZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
> "mark_digital" <xxx976@comcast.com> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> Hmm Hmm. And did you like the C-130? The reason I ask is because I had a
>> hand in some design and manufacturing changes to the propulsion,
>> basically
>> because the Air Force knew it was over designed, and because of that and
>> budget we had to cut some corners.[/color]
>
> Who did you work for Allison in Indianapolis? What corners were cut?
> When? Just curious.
> --[/color]

Blades, barrels and cams for the C-130. I worked for a division of UTC.
Sorry, can't elaborate further.

 
Old 04-18-2006, 07:03 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Steve wrote:
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> You have no real idea of[/color]

Boring.

 
Old 04-18-2006, 07:45 PM   #68 (permalink)
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:sIOcnV5CKKxJd9nZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> Perhaps he did not know your were racing. ;)
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:w8OdndIAQ9Z63tnZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
>> "Vash The Stampede" <Trigun@2AM.cn> wrote in message
>> news:JEP0g.1646$9.581@trndny04...[color=darkred]
>>> So, why don't you get behind me in my Corolla, my Celica, or my Supra,
>>> and try to *KEEP* up?!?!
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Hey Hachi, your signature changed over again.
>>
>> I want Mike to keep up with the 95 LE S/C Previa I own. The only time it
>> takes off slow from the line is when it's got a BIG load on it and on top
>> of it. We smoked an idiot kid in a Grand Am the other day.
>>
>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Usually some dumb goof in a car sitting next to you at a light and reving
his engine up and down all the way thorugh the red and staring at you is
expecting you to drag when the light goes green. We just put the hammer
down, didn't even smoke the tires. We left the Trans-Am about half a mile
behind when we finally got up to the speed limit. I guess he heard the S/C
whine. . . .

Charles of Schaumburg


 
Old 04-18-2006, 08:10 PM   #69 (permalink)
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[email]geoffm@u1.netgate.net[/email] (Geoff Miller) wrote:
snip
[color=blue]
> It's the
>*slower* drivers who want to force the rest of us to conform to *their*
>speed.
>
>Now, which of these groups would you say needs to be reminded that the
>road isn't their private thoroughfare?
>
>
>
>Geoff[/color]

By the same token perhaps one could say that the fast drivers
want to force the slow drivers to drive at the fast speed?...

Remember that there's very few roads which have one lane only...
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:32 PM   #70 (permalink)
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[email]geoffm@u1.netgate.net[/email] (Geoff Miller) wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>
>Gord Beaman <gord@islandtelecom.com> writes:
>[color=green]
>> Humm ...Geoff... Geoff...only Geoff I know is an artist who
>> paints great pictures of Argus aircraft, (and an ex Argus pilot
>> to boot) but the last name is wrong (unless it's a 'nom de
>> plume'?...) : )[/color]
>
>
>Think rec.aviation.military, maybe ten years ago. I'm a former
>flight engineer on USCG C-130s.
>
>I was privileged to go aboard an Argus once, a Mk. 1 from 407 Sqn.
>out of Comox. It was at NAS Barbers Point, Hawaii, for a couple
>of weeks for RIMPAC '80. That's a hell of an airplane. That
>particular plane was immaculate; it had been built in 1957, but
>looked brand new. The only signs of wear on the the thing were
>the spots on the yokes where the paint had worn away. I even got
>to crawl into the nose.
>
>I asked about the possibility of riding along on one of their
>flights during the exercise and was told I'd be welcome to --
>but was warned that they'd be up for 24 hours at a stretch. I
>figured that would've been too much of a good thing, and declined.
>
>
>
>Geoff[/color]

Ok Geoff, very good...the name makes more sense now, we used to
have great fun there and on ADA with Ralph...

Yes that was a great a/c for our trade indeed...about the only
one that I can think of to come close was the C-124 Globemaster.

Those 18 hour plus patrols (standard patrol) were a bitch though,
I think my longest was slightly over 30 hours...thank God for two
F/E's (minimum crew for any flight was 2 Pilots and 2 F/E's)
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Old 04-18-2006, 08:44 PM   #71 (permalink)
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"mark_digital" <xxx976@comcast.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"The BEnevolent dbu" <Relaxand@smeltherose.comm> wrote in message
>news:Relaxand-722A5D.16443218042006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=green]
>> In article <qe6dnebGr7TPu9jZnZ2dnUVZ_vSdnZ2d@comcast.com>,
>> "mark_digital" <xxx976@comcast.com> wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Hmm Hmm. And did you like the C-130? The reason I ask is because I had a
>>> hand in some design and manufacturing changes to the propulsion,
>>> basically
>>> because the Air Force knew it was over designed, and because of that and
>>> budget we had to cut some corners.[/color]
>>
>> Who did you work for Allison in Indianapolis? What corners were cut?
>> When? Just curious.
>> --[/color]
>
>Blades, barrels and cams for the C-130. I worked for a division of UTC.
>Sorry, can't elaborate further.[/color]

Interestingly enough I have some experience with that engine...I
flew for a few years as a Flight Engineer on the RCAF's
Cosmopolitan CC-109 powered by two Allison T-56 A7A, same basic
engine as our C-130. Great engine/prop combination...much better
than the Napier Eland engine that it replaced...
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Old 04-18-2006, 09:06 PM   #72 (permalink)
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In article <e22sm5$gfu@u1.netgate.net>,
Geoff Miller <geoffm@netgate.net> wrote:[color=blue]
>There's still time to reregister as a Republican. We have a big tent.
><glances at lap> So do I, come to think of it...[/color]

That's *big*?

Geoff, I hate to break it to you, but I think it's time for bifocals.

Adam
 
Old 04-18-2006, 10:27 PM   #73 (permalink)
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"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> n5hsr wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"dizzy" wrote:[/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> n5hsr wrote:
>>>
>>>>We smoked an idiot kid in a Grand Am the other day.
>>>
>>> Wow![/color]
>>
>>Well the kid sat there reving his engine at the light. He had a V6, had
>>he
>>known how to drive it, he should have been able to beat us off the line.
>>The Previa is only a 4, and has 161 hp moving 4200 lbs.[/color]
>
> Eh? I took your "S/C" as meaning that you had a supercharger
> installed?[/color]

The Previa was available with a factory installed supercharger for a while.
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:39 PM   #74 (permalink)
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Strayhorn <ken@duke.edu> writes:
[color=blue]
> Hmmm - I believe it was Mr Mayor who coined the sales pitch
> for China Air: "You've seen us drive, now watch us fly!"[/color]


"My, but it's fucking hot here today!"



Geoff

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Old 04-19-2006, 08:48 AM   #75 (permalink)
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On 18 Apr 2006 09:15:44 -0700, "ToMh" <tlhumm@hotmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> Slopeheads? You mean Orientals? The only Orientals I've seen who'd
>> fit that description are the so-called "riceboys" in their hopped-up
>> Civics and Acuras and Eclipses. Most Orientals have a pretty passive,
>> even timid driving style.
>>[/color]
>No, I mean dumbshits like you.
>
>I can tell what kind of person you are from your self centered attidute
>and your stereotyped and now racist view of other people.[/color]

And we can tell what kind of person you are by your unbridled use of
Ad Hominem attacks.
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