"Merritt Mullen" <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> In article <1145392180snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk>,
> [email]ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk[/email] (Andrew Stephenson) wrote:
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>> In article <e234t8$kqd@u1.netgate.net> [email]geoffm@netgate.net[/email] "Geoff
>> Miller" writes:
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>> > [...] pendanticism [...][/color]
>>
>> *koff*pedantry*koff* ;-)[/color]
>
> You are just being pedantic. <grin>
>
> Merritt[/color]
When I fall off a cliff face or climbing tower and hang from a rope, I guess
I'm pendantic. When I nit-pick people's opinions on where cars are from I
guess I'm pedantic ;-)
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"Merritt Mullen" <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote in message
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> In article <64ce6$44455164$44a4a10d$6483@msgid.meganewsservers.com>,
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote:
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>> "Geoff Miller" <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
>> news:e234t8$kqd@u1.netgate.net...[color=darkred]
>> >
>> >
>> > "Merritt Mullen" <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> writes:
>> >
>> >> The profits go to the share holders all over the world. But
>> >> the REVENUES, which are much larger than the profits, mostly
>> >> go the people who build the cars (in the form of wages), and
>> >> they are American.[/color]
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>> >
>> > Allow me to cut this Gordian knot. Toyota is a Japanese company,
>> > and that means a Toyota, wherever it's built, is a Japanese car.
>> > There is is.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> Wearing my devil's advocate hat (horns) again...
>>
>> Based on the final destination of the revenue,
>> Are Saab and Volvo Swedish or or American cars?
>>
>> Are Rolls Royce, Bentley, and Mini British or German cars?[/color]
>
> And, of course, Jaquar becomes an American car.
>
> You make an excellent point and it just proves that machines do not have a
> "nationality."
>
> Merritt[/color]
: Allow me to cut this Gordian knot. Toyota is a Japanese company,
: and that means a Toyota, wherever it's built, is a Japanese car.
: There is is.
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> Wearing my devil's advocate hat (horns) again...[/color]
Fair enough.
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> Based on the final destination of the revenue,
> Are Saab and Volvo Swedish or or American cars?[/color]
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> Are Rolls Royce, Bentley, and Mini British or German cars?[/color]
The final destinations are, of course, the U.S. and Germany,
respectively. But is that really the proper criterion? It
isn't as though the revenue passes through Sweden and the UK
intact, ending up the U.S. and Germany in its entirety. It's
more like the parent companies taking their cut (kind of like
tribute), with the bulk of the revenue going to the manufac-
turers. How could Saab, Volvo, etc., remain operational
otherwise?
Geoff
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"I used to be a loser-in-denial, too, until the lacrosse team
shoved a parking cone up my ass." -- _Billy Madison_
Ray O <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> writes:
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>Geoff,[/color]
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> I apologize, I was playing devil's advocate with the logic
> and grammar of your statement.[/color]
The apologies are mine. I should've chosen my words more carefully.
Geoff
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"I used to be a loser-in-denial, too, until the lacrosse team
shoved a parking cone up my ass." -- _Billy Madison_
In article <e2avsc$35c@u1.netgate.net> [email]geoffm@netgate.net[/email] "Geoff
Miller" writes:
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> Andrew Stephenson <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> writes:
>
> : [...] pendanticism [...]
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> > *koff*pedantry*koff* ;-)[/color]
>
> Point taken.
>
> I almost wrote "pedanticitude," but figured that would've been
> overdoing it...[/color]
Ah, but think of the funciousness we could've had with _that_.
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Andrew Stephenson
"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Ray O <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> writes:
>
> : Allow me to cut this Gordian knot. Toyota is a Japanese company,
> : and that means a Toyota, wherever it's built, is a Japanese car.
> : There is is.
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>> Wearing my devil's advocate hat (horns) again...[/color]
>
> Fair enough.
>
>[color=green]
>> Based on the final destination of the revenue,
>> Are Saab and Volvo Swedish or or American cars?[/color]
>[color=green]
>> Are Rolls Royce, Bentley, and Mini British or German cars?[/color]
>
> The final destinations are, of course, the U.S. and Germany,
> respectively. But is that really the proper criterion? It
> isn't as though the revenue passes through Sweden and the UK
> intact, ending up the U.S. and Germany in its entirety. It's
> more like the parent companies taking their cut (kind of like
> tribute), with the bulk of the revenue going to the manufac-
> turers. How could Saab, Volvo, etc., remain operational
> otherwise?
>
>
>
> Geoff
>[/color]
I don't have a definitive answer. Playing devil's advocate, I'm just
taking pedantic pot shots at any argument that may have grammatical,
logical, or factual flaws or errors.
After spending some time working for a fairly well know automaker, my
opinion is that the definition of a vehicle's origin or nationality is going
to be agreed upon by the SAE or other internationally recognized body.
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