where are cars manufactured

can someone tell me the website where i can find where all the models and makes are manufactured?


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I don't know of single wed site but one you can tell by the first number of
the VIN. The explanation of that, you can find by doing a search.




mike hunt


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> can someone tell me the website where i can find where all the models and
> makes are manufactured?
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"dasso" <thephonewarehouse@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> can someone tell me the website where i can find where all the models and
> makes are manufactured?
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For most part, most of the Japanese cars are made in the U.S. and the U.S.
cars made in Mexico or Canada.

Dan J.S. <smeski@gmail.com> writes:
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> For most part, most of the Japanese cars are made in the U.S.
> and the U.S. cars made in Mexico or Canada.[/color]


"For the most part?" In the case of American cars, I mean?

I've seen a number of discussions about whether a certain car
is/is not American/Japanese/whatever. There's always somebody
confusing the issue by saying, "B-but the factory is in the
U.S., so by definition, that Toyota/Honda/whatever is an Amer-
ican car!"

No so fast, sez I. Two factors outweigh that. One, if the parts
(or a majority of the parts) are made in Japan and are only as-
sembled into a finished car in the U.S., then as far as I can see,
that makes it a Japanese car. And even more fundamentally, if the
company (say, Toyota) is Japanese, and the profits from these cars
are going to Japan, that *really* makes those cars Japanese.



Geoff

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"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Dan J.S. <smeski@gmail.com> writes:
>[color=green]
>> For most part, most of the Japanese cars are made in the U.S.
>> and the U.S. cars made in Mexico or Canada.[/color]
>
>
> "For the most part?" In the case of American cars, I mean?
>
> I've seen a number of discussions about whether a certain car
> is/is not American/Japanese/whatever. There's always somebody
> confusing the issue by saying, "B-but the factory is in the
> U.S., so by definition, that Toyota/Honda/whatever is an Amer-
> ican car!"
>
> No so fast, sez I. Two factors outweigh that. One, if the parts
> (or a majority of the parts) are made in Japan and are only as-
> sembled into a finished car in the U.S., then as far as I can see,
> that makes it a Japanese car. And even more fundamentally, if the
> company (say, Toyota) is Japanese, and the profits from these cars
> are going to Japan, that *really* makes those cars Japanese.
>
>
>
> Geoff[/color]

Profits? how about who supports more American people with jobs? You can look
at that too. A Chevrolet Suburban is 50% american parts, 50% foreign parts
made in Mexico. A Toyota Sienna is 95% american parts, made in U.S. I think
buying the Sienna is supporting more U.S. folks.

Dan J.S. <smeski@gmail.com> writes:
[color=blue]
> Profits? how about who supports more American people with jobs?
> You can look at that too. A Chevrolet Suburban is 50% american
> parts, 50% foreign parts made in Mexico. A Toyota Sienna is 95%
> american parts, made in U.S. I think buying the Sienna is sup-
> porting more U.S. folks.[/color]


Okay, good point. Local jobs are undeniably a Good Thing. But
even after purchasing all those parts and paying all those sal-
aries, profits are still going someplace. Where that place is,
it seems to me, is the bottom line, whoever else benefits.



Geoff

--
"Chocolate is not problem for the serious apple diet. Think of James
Earl Jones going by on the Train a Grande Vitesse--not even time for
a wave." -- Howard Motteler

In article <e20rbg$cr4@u1.netgate.net>,
[email]geoffm@u1.netgate.net[/email] (Geoff Miller) wrote:

[color=blue]
> No so fast, sez I. Two factors outweigh that. One, if the parts
> (or a majority of the parts) are made in Japan and are only as-
> sembled into a finished car in the U.S., then as far as I can see,
> that makes it a Japanese car. And even more fundamentally, if the
> company (say, Toyota) is Japanese, and the profits from these cars
> are going to Japan, that *really* makes those cars Japanese.[/color]

The profits go to the share holders all over the world. But the REVENUES,
which are much larger than the profits, mostly go the people who build the
cars (in the form of wages), and they are American.

Merritt

"Geoff Miller" <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Dan J.S. <smeski@gmail.com> writes:
>[color=green]
>> Profits? how about who supports more American people with jobs?
>> You can look at that too. A Chevrolet Suburban is 50% american
>> parts, 50% foreign parts made in Mexico. A Toyota Sienna is 95%
>> american parts, made in U.S. I think buying the Sienna is sup-
>> porting more U.S. folks.[/color]
>
>
> Okay, good point. Local jobs are undeniably a Good Thing. But
> even after purchasing all those parts and paying all those sal-
> aries, profits are still going someplace. Where that place is,
> it seems to me, is the bottom line, whoever else benefits.
>
>
>
> Geoff
>[/color]

GM lost $8.6 billion in 2005 and Ford made around $2 billion, Toyota made
around $11 billion.

How does your logic apply in this case?
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Merritt Mullen" <mmullen8014@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:mmullen8014-C441DF.13452317042006@netnews.asp.att.net...[color=blue]
> In article <e20rbg$cr4@u1.netgate.net>,
> [email]geoffm@u1.netgate.net[/email] (Geoff Miller) wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>> No so fast, sez I. Two factors outweigh that. One, if the parts
>> (or a majority of the parts) are made in Japan and are only as-
>> sembled into a finished car in the U.S., then as far as I can see,
>> that makes it a Japanese car. And even more fundamentally, if the
>> company (say, Toyota) is Japanese, and the profits from these cars
>> are going to Japan, that *really* makes those cars Japanese.[/color]
>
> The profits go to the share holders all over the world. But the REVENUES,
> which are much larger than the profits, mostly go the people who build the
> cars (in the form of wages), and they are American.
>
> Merritt[/color]


Shhhh! Don't muddy the discussion with logic!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

If what you say is true the Americans that work in all assembly plants paid
taxes to the states and federal governments. Seems like GM did not pay any
federal corporate income tax for 2005 since they had a loss. Ford paid
federal corporate income tax, of around 41%, on two billion. Toyota like GM
paid no federal corporate income tax but earned a profit in the US of 11
Billion. Guess who made of for the taxes GM and Toyota did not pay? One
other difference the workers in the union plants like those operated by GM,
Ford and the GM/Toyota plant in California earned a lot more money and had
much better benefits and pensions. ;)

mike hunt


"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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>
> "Geoff Miller" <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
> news:e20tjj$e73@u1.netgate.net...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> Dan J.S. <smeski@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> Okay, good point. Local jobs are undeniably a Good Thing. But
>> even after purchasing all those parts and paying all those sal-
>> aries, profits are still going someplace. Where that place is,
>> it seems to me, is the bottom line, whoever else benefits.
>>
>>
>>
>> Geoff
>>[/color]
>
> GM lost $8.6 billion in 2005 and Ford made around $2 billion, Toyota made
> around $11 billion.
>
> How does your logic apply in this case?
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

According to the US Commerce Department in 2005 80% of the vehicles GM sold
in the US are made in the US a have a '1' as the first number of the VIN.
75% of the vehicles Ford sold in the US are made in the US a have a '1' as
the first number of the VIN. 60% of the vehicles Chrysler sold in the US
are made in the US a have a '1' as the first number of the VIN. 45% of the
vehicles Honda sold in the US are made in the US a have a '1' as the first
number of the VIN. Less than 20% of the vehicles Toyota sold in the US are
made in the US a have a '1' as the first number of the VIN. They are the
ones built in the GM/Toyota plant in California. The balance have a '4'
assembled in the US of less than 70% but more than 40% American parts or a
'5' assembled in the US of less than 40% American parts or a 'J' assembled
in Japan.


mike hunt


"Dan J.S." <smeski@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Geoff Miller" <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
> news:e20rbg$cr4@u1.netgate.net...[color=green]
>>
>>
>> Dan J.S. <smeski@gmail.com> writes:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> For most part, most of the Japanese cars are made in the U.S.
>>> and the U.S. cars made in Mexico or Canada.[/color]
>>
>>
>> "For the most part?" In the case of American cars, I mean?
>>
>> I've seen a number of discussions about whether a certain car
>> is/is not American/Japanese/whatever. There's always somebody
>> confusing the issue by saying, "B-but the factory is in the
>> U.S., so by definition, that Toyota/Honda/whatever is an Amer-
>> ican car!"
>>
>> No so fast, sez I. Two factors outweigh that. One, if the parts
>> (or a majority of the parts) are made in Japan and are only as-
>> sembled into a finished car in the U.S., then as far as I can see,
>> that makes it a Japanese car. And even more fundamentally, if the
>> company (say, Toyota) is Japanese, and the profits from these cars
>> are going to Japan, that *really* makes those cars Japanese.
>>
>>
>>
>> Geoff[/color]
>
> Profits? how about who supports more American people with jobs? You can
> look at that too. A Chevrolet Suburban is 50% american parts, 50% foreign
> parts made in Mexico. A Toyota Sienna is 95% american parts, made in U.S.
> I think buying the Sienna is supporting more U.S. folks.
>[/color]

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:23adnYgIAtiDjdnZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
> If what you say is true the Americans that work in all assembly plants
> paid taxes to the states and federal governments. Seems like GM did not
> pay any federal corporate income tax for 2005 since they had a loss. Ford
> paid federal corporate income tax, of around 41%, on two billion. Toyota
> like GM paid no federal corporate income tax but earned a profit in the US
> of 11 Billion. Guess who made of for the taxes GM and Toyota did not pay?
> One other difference the workers in the union plants like those operated
> by GM, Ford and the GM/Toyota plant in California earned a lot more money
> and had much better benefits and pensions. ;)
>
> mike hunt
>[/color]


I don't see the relevance of this information to the thread.

Also, a clarification: those numbers are worldwide for GM, Ford, and Toyota,
not just the U.S.
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
> news:2e568$44440169$44a4a10d$23097@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Geoff Miller" <geoffm@u1.netgate.net> wrote in message
>> news:e20tjj$e73@u1.netgate.net...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>> Dan J.S. <smeski@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> Okay, good point. Local jobs are undeniably a Good Thing. But
>>> even after purchasing all those parts and paying all those sal-
>>> aries, profits are still going someplace. Where that place is,
>>> it seems to me, is the bottom line, whoever else benefits.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>>[/color]
>>
>> GM lost $8.6 billion in 2005 and Ford made around $2 billion, Toyota made
>> around $11 billion.
>>
>> How does your logic apply in this case?
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Ray O wrote:
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> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:23adnYgIAtiDjdnZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> {snipped}
>>
>> mike hunt
>>[/color]
>
> I don't see the relevance of this information to the thread.[/color]

No surprise. Nothing "Mike Hunt(er)" ever says is relevant to any thread.

"dasso" <thephonewarehouse@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> can someone tell me the website where i can find where all the models and
> makes are manufactured?
>[/color]

They are made in the factory. DUH!

In article <23adnYgIAtiDjdnZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> If what you say is true the Americans that work in all assembly plants paid
> taxes to the states and federal governments. Seems like GM did not pay any
> federal corporate income tax for 2005 since they had a loss. Ford paid
> federal corporate income tax, of around 41%, on two billion. Toyota like GM
> paid no federal corporate income tax but earned a profit in the US of 11
> Billion.[/color]

Wait a minute! How would Toyota avoid paying US corporate taxes on
profits made in the USA?

Merritt