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Old 04-17-2006, 06:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OT: More Bush lies

As if any more evidence were needed...


WASHINGTON - On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad,
President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in
Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. troops had turned out to be
long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have
found the weapons of mass destruction."

The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months
afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to
go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials
possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.

A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now --
had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with
biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission
transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report
on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.


[url]http://www.startribune.com/722/story/365933.html[/url]

 
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Old 04-17-2006, 07:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:g1a842dsqk7tkhjopocfpdb1fd5b1pgo4h@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> As if any more evidence were needed...
>
>
> WASHINGTON - On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad,
> President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in
> Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. troops had turned out to be
> long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have
> found the weapons of mass destruction."
>
> The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months
> afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to
> go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials
> possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.
>
> A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now --
> had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with
> biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission
> transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report
> on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.
>
> [url]http://www.startribune.com/722/story/365933.html[/url]
>[/color]

According to your link:

"Whether the information was offered to others in the political realm [The
White House] I cannot say," said the DIA official, who spoke on the
condition that he not be identified.

So there is no evidence that Bush knew about the preliminary technical
report on May 29, 2003. "The survey group's final report [was issued] in
September 2004 -- 15 months after the technical report was written."
according the above link.


 
Old 04-17-2006, 07:26 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: More Bush lies

Mark A wrote:
[color=blue]
>"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> As if any more evidence were needed...
>>
>> WASHINGTON - On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad,
>> President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in
>> Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. troops had turned out to be
>> long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have
>> found the weapons of mass destruction."
>>
>> The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months
>> afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to
>> go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials
>> possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.
>>
>> A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now --
>> had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with
>> biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission
>> transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report
>> on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.
>>
>> [url]http://www.startribune.com/722/story/365933.html[/url]
>>[/color]
>
>According to your link:
>
>"Whether the information was offered to others in the political realm [The
>White House] I cannot say," said the DIA official, who spoke on the
>condition that he not be identified.
>
>So there is no evidence that Bush knew about the preliminary technical
>report on May 29, 2003. "The survey group's final report [was issued] in
>September 2004 -- 15 months after the technical report was written."
>according the above link.[/color]

Well, let's us our heads, shall we? Regarding the trailers, Bush went
on record saying "We have found the weapons of mass destruction." On
what evidence did he make this claim? What made him say that trailers
that nothing to do with biological weapons were the long-sought mobile
biological laboratories?

So, even if we generously assume that the information was withheld
from the president (yeah, right), he made a bold claim that was not
grounded in fact.

 
Old 04-17-2006, 07:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:67c8421pnh0c0dugpi4guvait2hbj3hlbr@4ax.com...[color=blue]
>
> Well, let's us our heads, shall we? Regarding the trailers, Bush went
> on record saying "We have found the weapons of mass destruction." On
> what evidence did he make this claim? What made him say that trailers
> that nothing to do with biological weapons were the long-sought mobile
> biological laboratories?
>
> So, even if we generously assume that the information was withheld
> from the president (yeah, right), he made a bold claim that was not
> grounded in fact.
>[/color]

There were a lot of exuberant people in the military, and even in the press,
that more than once jumped the gun on finding WMD.

True, it turned out to not be accurate information. But someone told him it
was accurate. Ever hear of gossip? By the time it gets to the last person,
the story has changed so many times as to be unrecognizable.

Given that the truth would come out, there is absolutely nothing to be
gained by lying about it. Given that Saddam Hussein wanted people to believe
he had WMD (remember the Iraqi soldiers wearing chemical suits), it is not
surprising that a lot of people thought he really did have them.


 
Old 04-17-2006, 08:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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In article <g1a842dsqk7tkhjopocfpdb1fd5b1pgo4h@4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
> As if any more evidence were needed...
>
>
> WASHINGTON - On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad,
> President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in
> Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. troops had turned out to be
> long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have
> found the weapons of mass destruction."
>
> The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months
> afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to
> go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials
> possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.
>
> A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now --
> had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with
> biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission
> transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report
> on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.
>
>
> [url]http://www.startribune.com/722/story/365933.html[/url][/color]

Political rubbish. We like to call it the red star. Very left wing
newspaper and won't hesitate to bring up something anti-Bush at a drop
of the hat, true or not true.

dizzy just posts anything anti Bush, because he has an ax to grind.
--
"A low voter turnout is an indication of fewer people going to the polls."

-- Vice President Al Gore
 
Old 04-17-2006, 09:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:g1a842dsqk7tkhjopocfpdb1fd5b1pgo4h@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> As if any more evidence were needed...
>
>
> WASHINGTON - On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad,
> President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in
> Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. troops had turned out to be
> long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have
> found the weapons of mass destruction."
>
> The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months
> afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to
> go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials
> possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.
>
> A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now --
> had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with
> biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission
> transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report
> on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.
>
>
> [url]http://www.startribune.com/722/story/365933.html[/url][/color]

Were these trailers made by Toyota? If not, take this to a political
discussion group!


 
Old 04-17-2006, 10:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: More Bush lies

Bush will go down in history as the President who went to war based on being
the last one in line in a game of telephone.


"Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:wsOdneBvC7spqdnZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> "dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:67c8421pnh0c0dugpi4guvait2hbj3hlbr@4ax.com...[color=green]
>>
>> Well, let's us our heads, shall we? Regarding the trailers, Bush went
>> on record saying "We have found the weapons of mass destruction." On
>> what evidence did he make this claim? What made him say that trailers
>> that nothing to do with biological weapons were the long-sought mobile
>> biological laboratories?
>>
>> So, even if we generously assume that the information was withheld
>> from the president (yeah, right), he made a bold claim that was not
>> grounded in fact.
>>[/color]
>
> There were a lot of exuberant people in the military, and even in the
> press, that more than once jumped the gun on finding WMD.
>
> True, it turned out to not be accurate information. But someone told him
> it was accurate. Ever hear of gossip? By the time it gets to the last
> person, the story has changed so many times as to be unrecognizable.
>
> Given that the truth would come out, there is absolutely nothing to be
> gained by lying about it. Given that Saddam Hussein wanted people to
> believe he had WMD (remember the Iraqi soldiers wearing chemical suits),
> it is not surprising that a lot of people thought he really did have them.
>[/color]


 
Old 04-18-2006, 06:13 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Tom in Macon wrote:[color=blue]
> "dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:g1a842dsqk7tkhjopocfpdb1fd5b1pgo4h@4ax.com...[color=green]
> > As if any more evidence were needed...
> >
> >
> > WASHINGTON - On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad,
> > President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in
> > Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. troops had turned out to be
> > long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have
> > found the weapons of mass destruction."
> >
> > The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months
> > afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to
> > go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials
> > possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.
> >
> > A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now --
> > had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with
> > biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission
> > transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report
> > on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.
> >
> >
> > [url]http://www.startribune.com/722/story/365933.html[/url][/color]
>
> Were these trailers made by Toyota? If not, take this to a political
> discussion group![/color]

Mark your god damned off topic posts as OT. Better yet, fuck off.

 
Old 04-19-2006, 03:56 AM   #9 (permalink)
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"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:9eZ0g.5479$Es3.404@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Bush will go down in history as the President who went to war based on
> being the last one in line in a game of telephone.
>[/color]

YOU will go down in this newsgroup as the ***got who got his fudge packed
the hardest.

[color=blue]
>
> "Mark A" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:wsOdneBvC7spqdnZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
>> "dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:67c8421pnh0c0dugpi4guvait2hbj3hlbr@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Well, let's us our heads, shall we? Regarding the trailers, Bush went
>>> on record saying "We have found the weapons of mass destruction." On
>>> what evidence did he make this claim? What made him say that trailers
>>> that nothing to do with biological weapons were the long-sought mobile
>>> biological laboratories?
>>>
>>> So, even if we generously assume that the information was withheld
>>> from the president (yeah, right), he made a bold claim that was not
>>> grounded in fact.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> There were a lot of exuberant people in the military, and even in the
>> press, that more than once jumped the gun on finding WMD.
>>
>> True, it turned out to not be accurate information. But someone told him
>> it was accurate. Ever hear of gossip? By the time it gets to the last
>> person, the story has changed so many times as to be unrecognizable.
>>
>> Given that the truth would come out, there is absolutely nothing to be
>> gained by lying about it. Given that Saddam Hussein wanted people to
>> believe he had WMD (remember the Iraqi soldiers wearing chemical suits),
>> it is not surprising that a lot of people thought he really did have
>> them.
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]


 
Old 04-19-2006, 03:57 AM   #10 (permalink)
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"Learning Richard" <learningrichard@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Tom in Macon wrote:[color=green]
>> "dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:g1a842dsqk7tkhjopocfpdb1fd5b1pgo4h@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>> > As if any more evidence were needed...
>> >
>> >
>> > WASHINGTON - On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad,
>> > President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in
>> > Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. troops had turned out to be
>> > long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have
>> > found the weapons of mass destruction."
>> >
>> > The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months
>> > afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to
>> > go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials
>> > possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.
>> >
>> > A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now --
>> > had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with
>> > biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission
>> > transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report
>> > on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.
>> >
>> >
>> > [url]http://www.startribune.com/722/story/365933.html[/url][/color]
>>
>> Were these trailers made by Toyota? If not, take this to a political
>> discussion group![/color]
>
> Mark your god damned off topic posts as OT. Better yet, fuck off.[/color]

Suck ****, DEMONrat *** boy.
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>[/color]


 
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