help with mx73 starting problems?

88 cressida, this is the problem wouldn't start last fall, turns over but no
fire up, towed to garage, new rotor cap and wire, works fine till 2 weeks
ago, same thing turns over no fireup, tow to garage, they play around and
finally tell me needs new igniter/coil, they install a used one works for
two start ups then nothing, wait for tow truck, tow truck driver and I try
to start it and it starts, drive for 2 days then guess what no fire up,
waited 20 minutes then fired up went straight to garage, he says it may have
been a loose wire and it should be fine now, goes 5 days and same thing
mechanic visits car he can't start it, he tows it in to his shop, he tries
it at the shop and it starts. says he can't fix it now that it starts, I
take it home it is in my garage, I am going over the ignition wires with a
fine tooth comb right now but would appreciate any one who can tell me what
is going on. I will look at ecu for loose or damaged wires as soon as
daughter gets home with glove box key.
Thanks, gerry

"G Evans" <gereva@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> 88 cressida, this is the problem wouldn't start last fall, turns over but
> no fire up, towed to garage, new rotor cap and wire, works fine till 2
> weeks ago, same thing turns over no fireup, tow to garage, they play
> around and finally tell me needs new igniter/coil, they install a used one
> works for two start ups then nothing, wait for tow truck, tow truck driver
> and I try to start it and it starts, drive for 2 days then guess what no
> fire up, waited 20 minutes then fired up went straight to garage, he says
> it may have been a loose wire and it should be fine now, goes 5 days and
> same thing mechanic visits car he can't start it, he tows it in to his
> shop, he tries it at the shop and it starts. says he can't fix it now that
> it starts, I take it home it is in my garage, I am going over the ignition
> wires with a fine tooth comb right now but would appreciate any one who
> can tell me what is going on. I will look at ecu for loose or damaged
> wires as soon as daughter gets home with glove box key.
> Thanks, gerry[/color]

The place that you are taking the car to seems to think that something is
amiss with the ignition system so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt
and assume that they are finding a no spark condition.

Engines need 3 things to operate - fuel, air, and ignition, all at the
proper moment.

What brand are the various ignition parts?

Igniters tend to fail for good, not intermittently.

Is there any engine oil in the distributor?
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"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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> "G Evans" <gereva@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:125purblkse9m80@corp.supernews.com...[color=green]
>> 88 cressida, this is the problem wouldn't start last fall, turns over but
>> no fire up, towed to garage, new rotor cap and wire, works fine till 2
>> weeks ago, same thing turns over no fireup, tow to garage, they play
>> around and finally tell me needs new igniter/coil, they install a used
>> one works for two start ups then nothing, wait for tow truck, tow truck
>> driver and I try to start it and it starts, drive for 2 days then guess
>> what no fire up, waited 20 minutes then fired up went straight to garage,
>> he says it may have been a loose wire and it should be fine now, goes 5
>> days and same thing mechanic visits car he can't start it, he tows it in
>> to his shop, he tries it at the shop and it starts. says he can't fix it
>> now that it starts, I take it home it is in my garage, I am going over
>> the ignition wires with a fine tooth comb right now but would appreciate
>> any one who can tell me what is going on. I will look at ecu for loose or
>> damaged wires as soon as daughter gets home with glove box key.
>> Thanks, gerry[/color]
>
> The place that you are taking the car to seems to think that something is
> amiss with the ignition system so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt
> and assume that they are finding a no spark condition.[/color]

Thats what they tell me[color=blue]
>
> Engines need 3 things to operate - fuel, air, and ignition, all at the
> proper moment.
>
> What brand are the various ignition parts?[/color]

original[color=blue]
>
> Igniters tend to fail for good, not intermittently.[/color]

That's what I think as well[color=blue]
>
> Is there any engine oil in the distributor?[/color]

No.
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>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

"G Evans" <gereva@interbaun.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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>> "G Evans" <gereva@interbaun.com> wrote in message
>> news:125purblkse9m80@corp.supernews.com...[color=darkred]
>>> 88 cressida, this is the problem wouldn't start last fall, turns over
>>> but no fire up, towed to garage, new rotor cap and wire, works fine till
>>> 2 weeks ago, same thing turns over no fireup, tow to garage, they play
>>> around and finally tell me needs new igniter/coil, they install a used
>>> one works for two start ups then nothing, wait for tow truck, tow truck
>>> driver and I try to start it and it starts, drive for 2 days then guess
>>> what no fire up, waited 20 minutes then fired up went straight to
>>> garage, he says it may have been a loose wire and it should be fine now,
>>> goes 5 days and same thing mechanic visits car he can't start it, he
>>> tows it in to his shop, he tries it at the shop and it starts. says he
>>> can't fix it now that it starts, I take it home it is in my garage, I am
>>> going over the ignition wires with a fine tooth comb right now but would
>>> appreciate any one who can tell me what is going on. I will look at ecu
>>> for loose or damaged wires as soon as daughter gets home with glove box
>>> key.
>>> Thanks, gerry[/color]
>>
>> The place that you are taking the car to seems to think that something is
>> amiss with the ignition system so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt
>> and assume that they are finding a no spark condition.[/color]
>
> Thats what they tell me[color=green]
>>
>> Engines need 3 things to operate - fuel, air, and ignition, all at the
>> proper moment.
>>
>> What brand are the various ignition parts?[/color]
>
> original[color=green]
>>
>> Igniters tend to fail for good, not intermittently.[/color]
>
> That's what I think as well[color=green]
>>
>> Is there any engine oil in the distributor?[/color]
>
> No.
>[color=green]
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>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color][/color]

They are going to need an ignition system wiring diagram in order to check
every circuit. I'd suspect the coil or a loose wire somewhere between the
coil and distributor.
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Ray O
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