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Old 05-08-2006, 10:50 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Transmission problem (I guess)

Bruce L. Bergman <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote:[color=blue]
> I can't tell - everything's coming up 404, including the domain.
> But look for any sheetmetal parts that are obviously pushed way out of
> position - and from the sound of your 'only', you have a bodyshop
> bonanza under there...[/color]

OK, try

[url]http://www.sysadmininc.com/~nigel/car1.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.sysadmininc.com/~nigel/car2.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.sysadmininc.com/~nigel/car3.jpg[/url]

These are all taken from the front right side (if looking towards the
back).


As you can see, the transmission pan has ripped away from the metal and
some of the metal has come away so it looks like I'm going to replace
the whole casing anyway. Can this be done without special tools?

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Old 05-08-2006, 11:33 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Transmission problem (I guess)


"Nigel Reed" <see@www.nelgin.nu-slash-qconfirm.html.invalid> wrote in
message news:spf5j3-478.ln1@wibble.nelgin.nu...[color=blue]
> Bruce L. Bergman <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote:[color=green]
>> I can't tell - everything's coming up 404, including the domain.
>> But look for any sheetmetal parts that are obviously pushed way out of
>> position - and from the sound of your 'only', you have a bodyshop
>> bonanza under there...[/color]
>
> OK, try
>
> [url]http://www.sysadmininc.com/~nigel/car1.jpg[/url]
> [url]http://www.sysadmininc.com/~nigel/car2.jpg[/url]
> [url]http://www.sysadmininc.com/~nigel/car3.jpg[/url]
>
> These are all taken from the front right side (if looking towards the
> back).
>
>
> As you can see, the transmission pan has ripped away from the metal and
> some of the metal has come away so it looks like I'm going to replace
> the whole casing anyway. Can this be done without special tools?
>
> Regards
> Nigel
> --[/color]

It looks like part of the transmission case casting is broken away and the
pan may be pushed up against the valve body. I hate to be the bearer of bad
news, but it looks like a transmission replacement may be in order. You may
be able to replace the valve body, pan, and transmission case, but the cost
is probably close to a unit replacement.

Disassembling the transmission will require special tools. Transmission
replacement will not require special tools but it will require a pretty
extensive set of tools, including a transmission jack and/or engine hoist.
An air compressor and a pneumatic impact gun and ratchets will greatly speed
up the job.

You might want to check with your insurance carrier to see if there is
coverage for the repair.

Good luck!

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Old 05-08-2006, 11:35 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Transmission problem (I guess)


"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
news:o0pv525d3hkb1n7l4flrm5vgklivnqi1bb@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 08 May 2006 21:20:00 GMT, Nigel Reed
> <see@www.nelgin.nu-slash-qconfirm.html.invalid> wrote:[color=green]
>>Ray O <rokigawa@tristarassociatesdotcomn> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> As usual, Bruce's advice is very thorough, detailed, and useful![/color][/color]
>
> Hey, I try. ;-)
>[/color]

I appreciate that you give well-thought-out advice that is usually right on
the money, particularly with electrical problems, and, you seem to avoid
bad-mouthing all the other brands and makes while avoiding getting sucked
into the OT stuff ;-)
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Old 05-09-2006, 03:53 AM   #19 (permalink)
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On Tue, 09 May 2006 03:50:01 GMT, Nigel Reed
<see@www.nelgin.nu-slash-qconfirm.html.invalid> wrote:
[color=blue]
>[url]http://www.sysadmininc.com/~nigel/car1.jpg[/url]
>[url]http://www.sysadmininc.com/~nigel/car2.jpg[/url]
>[url]http://www.sysadmininc.com/~nigel/car3.jpg[/url]
>
>These are all taken from the front right side (if looking towards the
>back).
>
>As you can see, the transmission pan has ripped away from the metal and
>some of the metal has come away so it looks like I'm going to replace
>the whole casing anyway. Can this be done without special tools?[/color]

(Looks at car1.jpg) Oh holy mother of... Are you familiar at all
with The Parrot Sketch? It's an Ex-transmission. It's pushing up
daisies, it's singing in the Choir Fantastic...

The case is broken where the pan bolts up. You might be up to
getting the old drivetrain out of the car yourself, but after that
it's time to hand it over to a transmission shop.

The insides of slushboxes are very finicky beasts to work on, and
your techniques of drawing pentagrams on the garage floor in wheel
bearing grease and waving dead chickens over the car hood have to be
spot on, or the Gods Of Forward Motion will be displeased... ;-P

Seriously, there are thousands of little pieces that all have to be
in exactly the right places - and if you aren't ultra careful during
teardown and assembly these check balls and springs and Circlips will
leap away and hide in the dark recesses of your workspace, never to be
seen again. There are many special wrenches, pliers, and measuring
tools needed. It has to be almost sterile clean in there. No
leftover parts are allowed when you are done...

That is NOT a beginner or intermediate class DIY job.

If the car is very low miles you might have them just change all the
internal parts from your transmission into a new or good used case.

If the car has a lot of miles on that transmission (100,000 plus) it
will be a lot simpler cheaper and faster to just buy a rebuilt
transmission and bolt it in. Either pay the Core Charge for the
broken case (and give the trans shop what's left of the old one, they
can still use the internal pieces) or buy a junkyard transmission to
turn in to the rebuilders as the core.

Let the trans shop install the new box - that way, if it doesn't
work they have to make it right. If they hand you the loose
transmission and you install it, you assume the responsibility.

--<< Bruce >>--

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