convert tundra to ethanol ?

I was encouraged to see on TV that brazill uses a ton of ethanol.
Assuming that
somehow we could get past the oil companies in the USA from keeping us
away
from ethanol, how hard would it be to take my Tundra 2003 and retrofit
the engine
so that it could run on ethanol ? How much work is involved, would it
be relaistic to do that, and what might be a ballpark figure of how
much I'd have to pay a mechanic to do it assuming it would be possible
in the near or distant future ? I saw that some cars could be
converted. I was bummed that it's the first new car I ever bought, I
have a small pop up camper on it that hurts the gas milage, but I love
it, it's 6 cyclinder. If
gas goes to more than $4 a gallon I have thought I may have to get an
old tercell to kick around in and have 2 cars.

<surfunbear@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I was encouraged to see on TV that brazill uses a ton of ethanol.
> Assuming that
> somehow we could get past the oil companies in the USA from keeping us
> away
> from ethanol, how hard would it be to take my Tundra 2003 and retrofit
> the engine
> so that it could run on ethanol ? How much work is involved, would it
> be relaistic to do that, and what might be a ballpark figure of how
> much I'd have to pay a mechanic to do it assuming it would be possible
> in the near or distant future ? I saw that some cars could be
> converted. I was bummed that it's the first new car I ever bought, I
> have a small pop up camper on it that hurts the gas milage, but I love
> it, it's 6 cyclinder. If
> gas goes to more than $4 a gallon I have thought I may have to get an
> old tercell to kick around in and have 2 cars.
>[/color]

I doubt if you will find any fuel stations that sell 100% ethanol but you
may find places that sell E85, which is 85% gas and 15% ethanol. Try a
google search of "ethanol conversion" for information on converting a
vehicle to use E85. It looks like the cost of conversion is anywhere from
$400 and up so it may take a long time to recover the conversion cost, if it
is even possible to do so.
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Yea, the E85 is what they sell in Brazil. I am just encouraged that
there may be some hope and I won't have to sell my tundra if gas goes
to $6/gal. I have 80K on my 2003 (I do alot of traveling) and they
where saying
ethanol could be a lot cheaper, so at some point of high fuel prices
conversion might start to look good, particularly since my other option
is haveing a second small car liek a tercell. I have never seen E85 at
a gas station, I live near boston, where do they have it ?

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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> <surfunbear@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> I was encouraged to see on TV that brazill uses a ton of ethanol.
>> Assuming that
>> somehow we could get past the oil companies in the USA from keeping us
>> away
>> from ethanol, how hard would it be to take my Tundra 2003 and retrofit
>> the engine
>> so that it could run on ethanol ? How much work is involved, would it
>> be relaistic to do that, and what might be a ballpark figure of how
>> much I'd have to pay a mechanic to do it assuming it would be possible
>> in the near or distant future ? I saw that some cars could be
>> converted. I was bummed that it's the first new car I ever bought, I
>> have a small pop up camper on it that hurts the gas milage, but I love
>> it, it's 6 cyclinder. If
>> gas goes to more than $4 a gallon I have thought I may have to get an
>> old tercell to kick around in and have 2 cars.
>>[/color]
>
> I doubt if you will find any fuel stations that sell 100% ethanol but you
> may find places that sell E85, which is 85% gas and 15% ethanol. Try a
> google search of "ethanol conversion" for information on converting a
> vehicle to use E85. It looks like the cost of conversion is anywhere from
> $400 and up so it may take a long time to recover the conversion cost, if
> it is even possible to do so.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

I think E85 is 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline.

"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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>> <surfunbear@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> I was encouraged to see on TV that brazill uses a ton of ethanol.
>>> Assuming that
>>> somehow we could get past the oil companies in the USA from keeping us
>>> away
>>> from ethanol, how hard would it be to take my Tundra 2003 and retrofit
>>> the engine
>>> so that it could run on ethanol ? How much work is involved, would it
>>> be relaistic to do that, and what might be a ballpark figure of how
>>> much I'd have to pay a mechanic to do it assuming it would be possible
>>> in the near or distant future ? I saw that some cars could be
>>> converted. I was bummed that it's the first new car I ever bought, I
>>> have a small pop up camper on it that hurts the gas milage, but I love
>>> it, it's 6 cyclinder. If
>>> gas goes to more than $4 a gallon I have thought I may have to get an
>>> old tercell to kick around in and have 2 cars.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I doubt if you will find any fuel stations that sell 100% ethanol but you
>> may find places that sell E85, which is 85% gas and 15% ethanol. Try a
>> google search of "ethanol conversion" for information on converting a
>> vehicle to use E85. It looks like the cost of conversion is anywhere
>> from $400 and up so it may take a long time to recover the conversion
>> cost, if it is even possible to do so.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
> I think E85 is 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline.[/color]

Oops! Jim is correct.
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

<surfunbear@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1147099074.377934.151490@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> I was encouraged to see on TV that brazill uses a ton of ethanol.
> Assuming that
> somehow we could get past the oil companies in the USA from keeping us
> away
> from ethanol, how hard would it be to take my Tundra 2003 and retrofit
> the engine
> so that it could run on ethanol ? How much work is involved, would it
> be relaistic to do that, and what might be a ballpark figure of how
> much I'd have to pay a mechanic to do it assuming it would be possible
> in the near or distant future ? I saw that some cars could be
> converted. I was bummed that it's the first new car I ever bought, I
> have a small pop up camper on it that hurts the gas milage, but I love
> it, it's 6 cyclinder. If
> gas goes to more than $4 a gallon I have thought I may have to get an
> old tercell to kick around in and have 2 cars.
>[/color]

A camper shell that matches the cab should increase highway mileage. It made a big difference on a truck I used to have.

It's not a shell, it's a popup camper that weighs maybe 1000 pounds and
has various gear and food in it.

At the present the E85 deal would be a catch 22, as soon as more vehicles
are introduced to run on E 85 the companies that produce it will claim a
shortage, and if we can mass produce E85 the producers, will sell it to the
highest bidder(China) leaving the US consumer up a shit creek as usual.

Tom

<surfunbear@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> I was encouraged to see on TV that brazill uses a ton of ethanol.
> Assuming that
> somehow we could get past the oil companies in the USA from keeping us
> away
> from ethanol, how hard would it be to take my Tundra 2003 and retrofit
> the engine
> so that it could run on ethanol ? How much work is involved, would it
> be relaistic to do that, and what might be a ballpark figure of how
> much I'd have to pay a mechanic to do it assuming it would be possible
> in the near or distant future ? I saw that some cars could be
> converted. I was bummed that it's the first new car I ever bought, I
> have a small pop up camper on it that hurts the gas milage, but I love
> it, it's 6 cyclinder. If
> gas goes to more than $4 a gallon I have thought I may have to get an
> old tercell to kick around in and have 2 cars.
>[/color]

"Jim Higgins" <gordian238@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcomn> wrote in message
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>> <surfunbear@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1147099074.377934.151490@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> I was encouraged to see on TV that brazill uses a ton of ethanol.
>>> Assuming that
>>> somehow we could get past the oil companies in the USA from keeping us
>>> away
>>> from ethanol, how hard would it be to take my Tundra 2003 and retrofit
>>> the engine
>>> so that it could run on ethanol ? How much work is involved, would it
>>> be relaistic to do that, and what might be a ballpark figure of how
>>> much I'd have to pay a mechanic to do it assuming it would be possible
>>> in the near or distant future ? I saw that some cars could be
>>> converted. I was bummed that it's the first new car I ever bought, I
>>> have a small pop up camper on it that hurts the gas milage, but I love
>>> it, it's 6 cyclinder. If
>>> gas goes to more than $4 a gallon I have thought I may have to get an
>>> old tercell to kick around in and have 2 cars.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I doubt if you will find any fuel stations that sell 100% ethanol but you
>> may find places that sell E85, which is 85% gas and 15% ethanol. Try a
>> google search of "ethanol conversion" for information on converting a
>> vehicle to use E85. It looks like the cost of conversion is anywhere from
>> $400 and up so it may take a long time to recover the conversion cost, if
>> it is even possible to do so.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
>I think E85 is 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline.
>[/color]

Yep...see here:
[url]http://tinyurl.com/cmhxk[/url]
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