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Old 05-12-2006, 09:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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scion tc vs saturn sky

I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will saturn sky be a
good replacement?

 
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Old 05-12-2006, 09:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The Toyota loyalist in this NG will naturally tell you no. I would
suggest you drive and obtain a 'total drive home price,' then decide if that
two seater suits your needs and your budget..

mike hunt

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>I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will saturn sky be a
> good replacement?
>[/color]


 
Old 05-12-2006, 09:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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<sorcerdon@gmail.com> writes:
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> I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will
> saturn sky be a good replacement?[/color]


Only you can answer that question. Does the Sky fit your
needs? Have you driven one?

The Sky is a very different sort of car from the tC -- a
roadster versus a closed coupe -- so the two are difficult
to compare.



Geoff

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Old 05-12-2006, 09:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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<sorcerdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will saturn sky be a
> good replacement?[/color]

Well, this sounds pretty good to me.

But I am single, no kids, and have another car (or two..or three..or..) that
if I NEED room I have it. Shoot, one of them is a van.
For me a Sky would be a fun go -to-work car and Sunday Let's Go Get Ice
Cream car.

And I have a garage, too...


 
Old 05-12-2006, 01:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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<sorcerdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will saturn sky be a
> good replacement?
>[/color]

If you are going to check out the Saturn, you might as well check out the
Pontiac version as well.

As to whether they are a good replacement depends on how you intend to use
the car and whether fuel mileage, performance, cargo capacity, handling,
engine smoothness, transmission feel, seating comfort, driving position,
etc. of one suits your tases and needs better than the other.
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Old 05-12-2006, 02:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
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<sorcerdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will saturn sky be a
> good replacement?
>[/color]

Only you can tell if it fits your needs.

As a second or third car, I'd consider a convertible with negligible trunk
space. For my primary vehicle, giving up decent "cargo capacity" would not
be an option. It's not every day you take home a 27" TV or room air
conditioner but there are tasks like that to be done a few times per year.
It's embarassing to have to borrow a friend's Civic because your convertible
can't even get a week's worth of groceries home.

This guy had some nice things to say about it:
[url]http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/content/11449351621179520851/[/url]

You might also look at Edmunds. Some people pooh-pooh reading reviews but I
like them because the reviewer may bring up things I won't think about in
the showroom or on the test drive that may really be pertinent to my
long-term happiness with the car. One thing I noticed in the
"truthaboutcars" review is that the reviewer found the car to be unusually
quiet with the top up, for a convertible; he compared it to a sedan for
quietness. If this is to be your daily driver, that would make a big
difference in your comfort on your daily commute - or if you decide to drive
across the country at some point. There's a thought; whatever you do, drive
it with the top both up AND down for a while and go through putting the top
up and down, too.

Have you considered the Pontiac Solstice? It's pretty much the same car but
it looks like the base price is lower. You might find one that's got
everything you want at a better price than the Sky.

Also, I notice you can get a lean-and-mean version of the Mazda Miata for
less than the Sky. If you've enjoyed your Scion, you might consider a Camry
Solara convertible but I believe those are sort of spendy, compared to the
Solstic, Sky and Miata and it's more like a full-sized car than a roadster.

If you're getting a convertible, know this: I envy you.




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Old 05-12-2006, 02:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If he needs a four seat convertible he might want to drive and price a
Mustang. The V6 beats the Solara 4cy by $8,000 and the V8 beats the V6
Solara by $6,000. I priced and drove the V6 Solara and the V8 Mustang last
year and it was no contest, I bought the 2005 V8. The V8 Mustang even has
better resale. NADA list my 05 at $30,200 retail . That is $1,000 more
than I paid for it. ;)

mike hunt


"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
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> <sorcerdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1147444246.177515.267100@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>> I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will saturn sky be a
>> good replacement?
>>[/color]
>
> Only you can tell if it fits your needs.
>[/color]
<snip>[color=blue]
>
> Also, I notice you can get a lean-and-mean version of the Mazda Miata for
> less than the Sky. If you've enjoyed your Scion, you might consider a
> Camry
> Solara convertible but I believe those are sort of spendy, compared to the
> Solstic, Sky and Miata and it's more like a full-sized car than a
> roadster.
>
> If you're getting a convertible, know this: I envy you.
>
>
>
>
> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url] ***[/color]


 
Old 05-12-2006, 02:57 PM   #8 (permalink)
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But it's a Ford!


"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> If he needs a four seat convertible he might want to drive and price a
> Mustang. The V6 beats the Solara 4cy by $8,000 and the V8 beats the V6
> Solara by $6,000. I priced and drove the V6 Solara and the V8 Mustang last
> year and it was no contest, I bought the 2005 V8. The V8 Mustang even has
> better resale. NADA list my 05 at $30,200 retail . That is $1,000 more
> than I paid for it. ;)
>
> mike hunt
>
>
> "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
> news:4464cf2d$0$29251$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...[color=green]
>> <sorcerdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1147444246.177515.267100@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>>> I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will saturn sky be a
>>> good replacement?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Only you can tell if it fits your needs.
>>[/color]
> <snip>[color=green]
>>
>> Also, I notice you can get a lean-and-mean version of the Mazda Miata for
>> less than the Sky. If you've enjoyed your Scion, you might consider a
>> Camry
>> Solara convertible but I believe those are sort of spendy, compared to
>> the
>> Solstic, Sky and Miata and it's more like a full-sized car than a
>> roadster.
>>
>> If you're getting a convertible, know this: I envy you.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *** Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url] ***[/color]
>
>[/color]


 
Old 05-12-2006, 05:51 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> If he needs a four seat convertible he might want to drive and price a
> Mustang. The V6 beats the Solara 4cy by $8,000 and the V8 beats the V6
> Solara by $6,000. I priced and drove the V6 Solara and the V8 Mustang last
> year and it was no contest, I bought the 2005 V8. The V8 Mustang even has
> better resale. NADA list my 05 at $30,200 retail . That is $1,000 more
> than I paid for it. ;)
>
> mike hunt[/color]

If Ford is severely restricting production of certain models, like the GT,
then maybe you're going to see some bubbles in Ford's generally crappy
resale value.

Otherwise, Edmunds says the Camry Solara V6 costs a little bit more (<
$2,000) than a V6 Mustang convertible and will return FAR MORE money at
trade-in.
[color=blue]
> "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
> news:4464cf2d$0$29251$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...[color=green]
> > <sorcerdon@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1147444246.177515.267100@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
> >> I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will saturn sky be a
> >> good replacement?
> >>[/color]
> >
> > Only you can tell if it fits your needs.
> >[/color]
> <snip>[color=green]
> >
> > Also, I notice you can get a lean-and-mean version of the Mazda Miata[/color][/color]
for[color=blue][color=green]
> > less than the Sky. If you've enjoyed your Scion, you might consider a
> > Camry
> > Solara convertible but I believe those are sort of spendy, compared to[/color][/color]
the[color=blue][color=green]
> > Solstic, Sky and Miata and it's more like a full-sized car than a
> > roadster.
> >
> > If you're getting a convertible, know this: I envy you.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *** Posted via a free Usenet account from [url]http://www.teranews.com[/url] ***[/color]
>
>[/color]



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Old 05-12-2006, 05:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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[email]sorcerdon@gmail.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> I currently have a Scion tC. My lease is over soon will saturn sky be a
> good replacement?[/color]

The tC is a practical, inexpensive, FWD coupe. The Sky is an
impractical, not too expensive, RWD roadster that is designed to look a
little like a Corvette. Neither the tC or the Sky (or the Solstice, the
Sky's mechanical twin) is very sporty. The Mazda Miata is more fun and
is in the same price range. I think the Honda Civic Si (FWD coupe) is
the logical step up in performance from the tC while retaining some
practicality. If you want a stylish convertible, I like the look of the
Pontiac Solstice better than the Sky but the Solstice, Sky and Miata
are all worth consideration.

 
Old 05-12-2006, 09:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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That may be your opinion but me thinks you need to compare the differences
in standard equipment and big differences in real world drive home prices,
not MSRP before you can make a comparison.

As to production number Ford increased mid year production of V8 and
convertible Mustang in 2005 by 80,000 cars to meet demand. For 2006 by
another 20,000 and another 15,000 will be available now with the 2007s,
coming to market as we speak.

mike hunt


"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
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> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:TrKcncC8pYTaffnZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> If he needs a four seat convertible he might want to drive and price a
>> Mustang. The V6 beats the Solara 4cy by $8,000 and the V8 beats the V6
>> Solara by $6,000. I priced and drove the V6 Solara and the V8 Mustang
>> last
>> year and it was no contest, I bought the 2005 V8. The V8 Mustang even
>> has
>> better resale. NADA list my 05 at $30,200 retail . That is $1,000 more
>> than I paid for it. ;)
>>
>> mike hunt[/color]
>
> If Ford is severely restricting production of certain models, like the GT,
> then maybe you're going to see some bubbles in Ford's generally crappy
> resale value.
>
> Otherwise, Edmunds says the Camry Solara V6 costs a little bit more (<
> $2,000) than a V6 Mustang convertible and will return FAR MORE money at
> trade-in.
>[/color]


 
Old 05-12-2006, 11:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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On Fri, 12 May 2006 15:21:40 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
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>If he needs a four seat convertible he might want to drive and price a
>Mustang. The V6 beats the Solara 4cy by $8,000 and the V8 beats the V6
>Solara by $6,000. I priced and drove the V6 Solara and the V8 Mustang last
>year and it was no contest, I bought the 2005 V8. The V8 Mustang even has
>better resale. NADA list my 05 at $30,200 retail . That is $1,000 more
>than I paid for it. ;)
>
>mike hunt
>
>[/color]
Great tall tale you have there. Let's go back to reality, shall we?
 
Old 05-12-2006, 11:36 PM   #13 (permalink)
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On Fri, 12 May 2006 22:01:01 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>That may be your opinion but me thinks you need to compare the differences
>in standard equipment and big differences in real world drive home prices,
>not MSRP before you can make a comparison.
>
> As to production number Ford increased mid year production of V8 and
>convertible Mustang in 2005 by 80,000 cars to meet demand. For 2006 by
>another 20,000 and another 15,000 will be available now with the 2007s,
>coming to market as we speak.
>
>mike hunt
>
>[/color]
They can't be comparably equipped. The Solara has more advanced
features that the Mustang doesn't have. The Solara has electronic
brake assist, independent rear suspension, VVT-I, overhead cam,
4-valves per cylinder, 4-channel ABS rather than a 3-channel one,
color-keyed side mirrors, tandem rear-brakes, home link receiver,
vehicle stability control, tire pressure monitoring system, and a
deluge of other items that add cost. Some of these are technologies
that Ford wishes they can perfect like Toyota has.
 
Old 05-12-2006, 11:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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On Fri, 12 May 2006 10:39:08 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> The Toyota loyalist in this NG will naturally tell you no. I would
>suggest you drive and obtain a 'total drive home price,' then decide if that
>two seater suits your needs and your budget..
>
>mike hunt
>[/color]
Transalation in real English:

The logical people who know quality will recommend the Scion. Since
I'm not one of them, I would suggest you try the cheap Saturn anyway
regardless of its poor reliability, build quality, and missing
refinement.
 
Old 05-13-2006, 11:11 AM   #15 (permalink)
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That may be your opinion but it is the opinion of a minority. The real
proof, of which is a better place for a buyer to spend his hard earned
money, always shows up in the annual sales numbers. Wanna bet the two GM
two seaters will out sell Toyota and Hondas two seaters in their first year?
LOL

mike hunt


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> On Fri, 12 May 2006 10:39:08 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> The Toyota loyalist in this NG will naturally tell you no. I would
>>suggest you drive and obtain a 'total drive home price,' then decide if
>>that
>>two seater suits your needs and your budget..
>>
>>mike hunt
>>[/color]
> Transalation in real English:
>
> The logical people who know quality will recommend the Scion. Since
> I'm not one of them, I would suggest you try the cheap Saturn anyway
> regardless of its poor reliability, build quality, and missing
> refinement.[/color]


 
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