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Old 05-13-2006, 08:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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18,000 miles/year - is that high for a 2003 Camry?

I'm in the chicago area and I'm looking to buy this car from a local
Toyota dealer:

2003 Camry SE Sedan 4 DR
2.4L L4 EFI DOHC 16V
Mileage: 49,600
Asking price: $14,995
Negotiated price: $14,100

The Carfax report stated that the vehicle has had one owner, was
registered as a personal vehicle in the chicago area. No problem there.
Only thing is, the car has been in service for 2 years and 9 months,
and has 49,600 miles on it. That's 1503 miles a month; 18,036 miles a
year.

The interior and exterior are in excellent shape. The engine looks,
sounds and performs just fine. The car handles and rides just fine. I
know Camry's are legendary for their reliability and long life - that's
why I'm getting one - but is this mileage too high? I'm of the
understanding that anything over 15,000 miles a year is considered
high. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

 
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Old 05-13-2006, 10:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 18,000 miles/year - is that high for a 2003 Camry?

18k per year is higher than normal, but not necessarily excessive.

Often high miles in a short timespan means a lot of highway miles,
which are easier than stop-and-go city driving. But this car seems to
have been used for a long commute...

Average 5 day work week
x 4 1/3 weeks per month
------------------------------------
= 21 2/3 workdays per month

1503 miles/month ÷ 21 2/3 workdays/month = 69+ miles per day

 
Old 05-13-2006, 10:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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<tron9901@msn.com> wrote[color=blue]
> The Carfax report stated that the vehicle has had one owner, was
> registered as a personal vehicle in the chicago area. No problem there.
> Only thing is, the car has been in service for 2 years and 9 months,
> and has 49,600 miles on it. That's 1503 miles a month; 18,036 miles a
> year.
>
> The interior and exterior are in excellent shape. The engine looks,
> sounds and performs just fine. The car handles and rides just fine. I
> know Camry's are legendary for their reliability and long life - that's
> why I'm getting one - but is this mileage too high? I'm of the
> understanding that anything over 15,000 miles a year is considered
> high. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/color]

That's about what I have put on my car. Usually with that many
miles, much of it will be highway miles which are generally easier
on the drivetrain than city miles. I wouldn't worry about the miles,
but the maintenance (which you can't get from the report) - you
might ask the dealer for the records.

FloydR


 
Old 05-13-2006, 10:17 AM   #4 (permalink)
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>>I wouldn't worry about the miles, but the maintenance (which you can't get from the report) - you might ask the dealer for the records. <<

Good point I omitted. Maintenance records are a definite plus.

 
Old 05-13-2006, 10:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: 18,000 miles/year - is that high for a 2003 Camry?

I should add that no, I don't think every single mile was in commuting
to work.
The mileage is on the high side, but shouldn't be a concern.

 
Old 05-13-2006, 10:36 AM   #6 (permalink)
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"Hopkins" <nasibisha@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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18k per year is higher than normal, but not necessarily excessive.

Often high miles in a short timespan means a lot of highway miles,
which are easier than stop-and-go city driving. But this car seems to
have been used for a long commute...

Average 5 day work week
x 4 1/3 weeks per month
------------------------------------
= 21 2/3 workdays per month

1503 miles/month ÷ 21 2/3 workdays/month = 69+ miles per day

I was doing 180 miles a day for a while, then 90. Now I only do the 90 on
the weekends.


 
Old 05-13-2006, 11:02 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 18,000 miles/year - is that high for a 2003 Camry?

18,000 miles per year is high for ANY car.
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: 18,000 miles/year - is that high for a 2003 Camry?

49.6K miles on a car less than 3 yrs old... is still a great buy. These cars
are likely to be reliable past 200,000 miles, so if you think that this mileage
is high, that must mean you drive a lot less than this. That means this car is
likely gonna last you a really long time.

Dave Head

On 13 May 2006 06:55:26 -0700, [email]tron9901@msn.com[/email] wrote:
[color=blue]
>I'm in the chicago area and I'm looking to buy this car from a local
>Toyota dealer:
>
>2003 Camry SE Sedan 4 DR
>2.4L L4 EFI DOHC 16V
>Mileage: 49,600
>Asking price: $14,995
>Negotiated price: $14,100
>
>The Carfax report stated that the vehicle has had one owner, was
>registered as a personal vehicle in the chicago area. No problem there.
>Only thing is, the car has been in service for 2 years and 9 months,
>and has 49,600 miles on it. That's 1503 miles a month; 18,036 miles a
>year.
>
>The interior and exterior are in excellent shape. The engine looks,
>sounds and performs just fine. The car handles and rides just fine. I
>know Camry's are legendary for their reliability and long life - that's
>why I'm getting one - but is this mileage too high? I'm of the
>understanding that anything over 15,000 miles a year is considered
>high. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.[/color]
 
Old 05-13-2006, 12:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: 18,000 miles/year - is that high for a 2003 Camry?

> I'm in the chicago area and I'm looking to buy this car from a local[color=blue]
> Toyota dealer:
>
> 2003 Camry SE Sedan 4 DR
> 2.4L L4 EFI DOHC 16V
> Mileage: 49,600
> Asking price: $14,995
> Negotiated price: $14,100[/color]


Ummm . . . it was probably sold new in 2002. That's about 12K per year,
which is actually LOW miles. -Dave



 
Old 05-13-2006, 12:09 PM   #10 (permalink)
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"Scott en Aztlán" <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1o0c62hgn4c5aiifh1sjcuk5eabq003gtk@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> 18,000 miles per year is high for ANY car.
> --[/color]

Slightly, but we're talking about a four-year-old car with roughly 12K per
year, which is below average. -Dave



 
Old 05-13-2006, 12:10 PM   #11 (permalink)
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"Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> wrote in message
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> 49.6K miles on a car less than 3 yrs old... is still a great buy.[/color]

Oh boy. People keep forgetting that any particular model year car is
actually sold the year before. This is a 4 year old car. Nothing wrong
with that, it just means that the yearly mileage estimate is off a bit . . .
divide by 4. -Dave



 
Old 05-13-2006, 12:15 PM   #12 (permalink)
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On Sat, 13 May 2006 09:02:35 -0700, Scott en Aztlán <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>18,000 miles per year is high for ANY car.[/color]

Ha! I'm putting on about 32,000 this year if I keep up the pace, which will
likely actually increase this summer. And... I'm driving less than I used to.
40,000 a year used to be "normal" but I'm not the race fan I used to be, so
those recreational outings don't happen any more. Going to Dayton, Ohio next
weekend for the Dayton Hamvention, as well as an annual visit to Cedar Point
for some rollercoaster riding.

Its 17 miles to work and 20 miles to the movie and gym, and I hit them all
about 5 times a week. Then there's the road rallies with the Sports Car Club
of America, both running them and laying them out for others to run.

Lotsa people around here, in the Fredericksburg, Va. area commute to work in DC
- that's 50 - 60 miles or more per day, 5 days a week, and that's _just_ going
to work...

Wanna talk about "high" mileage? 18,000 miles a year is small potatos for a
lot of us... Can't wait to move back to the midwest, and a big city like
Indianapolis, where everything is much closer together. There's multiple, very
nice race tracks in the city (Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Indianapolis Raceway
Park, the State Fairgrounds, and a little figure 8 place on the SE side), and
more available with a moderate drive (Terre Haute "Action Track" 60 miles, and
El Dora Speedway in Ohio, 90 miles). I'll be a race fan again. And I don't
have to think about 60 - 90 mile drives to get to a good airport, nor 60 miles
to get to a good concert, etc.

Dave Head
 
Old 05-13-2006, 03:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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"Dave Head" <rally2xs@att.net> wrote in message
news:gh4c62tv1fp0oejs2innfqm1eussoole1r@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 13 May 2006 09:02:35 -0700, Scott en Aztlán[/color]
<scottenaztlan@yahoo.com>[color=blue]
> wrote:
>[/color]
(snip)[color=blue]
> lot of us... Can't wait to move back to the midwest, and a big city like
> Indianapolis, where everything is much closer together. There's multiple,[/color]
very[color=blue]
> nice race tracks in the city (Indianapolis Motor Speedway, Indianapolis[/color]
Raceway[color=blue]
> Park, the State Fairgrounds, and a little figure 8 place on the SE side),[/color]
and[color=blue]
> more available with a moderate drive (Terre Haute "Action Track" 60 miles,[/color]
and[color=blue]
> El Dora Speedway in Ohio, 90 miles). I'll be a race fan again. And I[/color]
don't[color=blue]
> have to think about 60 - 90 mile drives to get to a good airport, nor 60[/color]
miles[color=blue]
> to get to a good concert, etc.
>[/color]
Funny, those years I lived in Indy, I remember being pissed that I had to
spend a hour-plus in the car every damn day. 465 is about 52 miles around,
so if you sleep on one side, and the job site is on the other side- that's
50 miles a day right there. (and no, even then, nobody goes through town...)

aem sends...

 
Old 05-13-2006, 04:06 PM   #14 (permalink)
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On Sat, 13 May 2006 17:08:33 GMT, "Dave" <noway@nohow.not> graced this
newsgroup with:
[color=blue][color=green]
>> I'm in the chicago area and I'm looking to buy this car from a local
>> Toyota dealer:
>>
>> 2003 Camry SE Sedan 4 DR
>> 2.4L L4 EFI DOHC 16V
>> Mileage: 49,600
>> Asking price: $14,995
>> Negotiated price: $14,100[/color]
>
>
>Ummm . . . it was probably sold new in 2002. That's about 12K per year,
>which is actually LOW miles. -Dave
>
>[/color]

then how about this one?

[url]http://gwfweb.com/honda/4sale/[/url]


 
Old 05-13-2006, 04:10 PM   #15 (permalink)
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<tron9901@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1147528526.267076.250780@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> I'm in the chicago area and I'm looking to buy this car from a local
> Toyota dealer:
>
> 2003 Camry SE Sedan 4 DR
> 2.4L L4 EFI DOHC 16V
> Mileage: 49,600
> Asking price: $14,995
> Negotiated price: $14,100
>
> The Carfax report stated that the vehicle has had one owner, was
> registered as a personal vehicle in the chicago area. No problem there.
> Only thing is, the car has been in service for 2 years and 9 months,
> and has 49,600 miles on it. That's 1503 miles a month; 18,036 miles a
> year.
>
> The interior and exterior are in excellent shape. The engine looks,
> sounds and performs just fine. The car handles and rides just fine. I
> know Camry's are legendary for their reliability and long life - that's
> why I'm getting one - but is this mileage too high? I'm of the
> understanding that anything over 15,000 miles a year is considered
> high. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>[/color]

So my 1995 Camry 2.2 litre has only 80.000miles on it.
That must be under usual yearly milage then.
But I am retired and have had it from new.

I once bought a Renault R16TS that was one year and one week old
it had 47.000miles on it.
The medical company I was buying it from ( it was the MDs car ) of
a pacemaker company.
Asked me if I wanted a job with them.

NO WAY.

Johnny UK.




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