corolla highway rpm

Hello all, first time poster... I'm considering buying a 2006 Corolla
5-speed, and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of RPM's
these cars turn on the highway?

(I'm also looking at a civic, and it turns around 3000 rpm on the
highway... way too many RPM's for my liking; I'm hoping the corolla has
a better overdrive than the civic?)

Thanks in advance!

On 18 May 2006 13:56:56 -0700, "dakota2112" <dakota2112@yahoo.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hello all, first time poster... I'm considering buying a 2006 Corolla
>5-speed, and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of RPM's
>these cars turn on the highway?
>
>(I'm also looking at a civic, and it turns around 3000 rpm on the
>highway... way too many RPM's for my liking; I'm hoping the corolla has
>a better overdrive than the civic?)
>
>Thanks in advance![/color]

My son bought a 2006 Corolla S with 5 speed.

As I remember it on our trip from Philadelphia (where we bought his)
back to Florida....it was around 2K at 65.

A sweet ride....

--

Scott in Florida

dakota2112 wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hello all, first time poster... I'm considering buying a 2006 Corolla
> 5-speed, and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of RPM's
> these cars turn on the highway?
>
> (I'm also looking at a civic, and it turns around 3000 rpm on the
> highway... way too many RPM's for my liking; I'm hoping the corolla has
> a better overdrive than the civic?)
>
> Thanks in advance![/color]

I drove my folks' '04 Corolla on the highway once. This was with a 4-speed
automatic, and I think it was at 75mph where the RPMs were a steady 3000.

Needless to say, one should achieve lower RPMs at that speed in 5th gear.

wow... them are some low RPMs my celica turns at 3000 doing 55
High Tech Misfit wrote:[color=blue]
> dakota2112 wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Hello all, first time poster... I'm considering buying a 2006 Corolla
> > 5-speed, and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of RPM's
> > these cars turn on the highway?
> >
> > (I'm also looking at a civic, and it turns around 3000 rpm on the
> > highway... way too many RPM's for my liking; I'm hoping the corolla has
> > a better overdrive than the civic?)
> >
> > Thanks in advance![/color]
>
> I drove my folks' '04 Corolla on the highway once. This was with a 4-speed
> automatic, and I think it was at 75mph where the RPMs were a steady 3000.
>
> Needless to say, one should achieve lower RPMs at that speed in 5th gear.[/color]

High Tech Misfit wrote:
[color=blue]
> I drove my folks' '04 Corolla on the highway once. This was with a 4-speed
> automatic, and I think it was at 75mph where the RPMs were a steady 3000.
>
> Needless to say, one should achieve lower RPMs at that speed in 5th gear.[/color]

You guys are far too used to high-torque, large capacity engines. My
celica (2ltr turbo) runs 2800rpm at 75, in fact virtually every petrol
car i have been in other than monster 3.5 to 4 litre ones have been
around 3000rpm. Autos are different generally, my dads 3.5 auto sits at
about 2200 at 70mph. 2800 rpm is the optimum fuel efficiency speed for
a 2litre-ish 4 stroke internal combustion engine, hence why most
manufacturers make highway speeds that level in 5th. This changes with
engine size and the new VVTi setups but its still approximately correct
as it is linked to the speed of combustion of the fuel in the
cylinders.

J

Coyoteboy wrote:[color=blue]
> You guys are far too used to high-torque, large capacity engines. My
> celica (2ltr turbo) runs 2800rpm at 75, in fact virtually every petrol
> car i have been in other than monster 3.5 to 4 litre ones have been
> around 3000rpm. Autos are different generally, my dads 3.5 auto sits at
> about 2200 at 70mph. 2800 rpm is the optimum fuel efficiency speed for
> a 2litre-ish 4 stroke internal combustion engine, hence why most
> manufacturers make highway speeds that level in 5th. This changes with
> engine size and the new VVTi setups but its still approximately correct
> as it is linked to the speed of combustion of the fuel in the
> cylinders.[/color]

I've driven a 3.9L V6 pickup truck for 8 years and 170k miles, and I
admit I've really enjoyed it's super low highway cruise rpm... it turns
around 2000 rpm in 5th gear at 70mph! This is mainly thanks to the
3.21 axle ratio. But the reason I like this low highway rpm is plain
and simple: less engine wear per unit of distance driven.

I'm putting said truck into semi-retirement and getting either a
Corolla or a Civic to start using as my daily driver, mainly highway...
and I much prefer manuals to automatics, but if the automatics are
keeping these little 4-bangers down closer to 2000rpm, then I might
have to re-consider. 3000rpm vs 2000rpm is a 50% increase in
crankshaft revolutions, which scares me a little.

my daily driver celica has 235,000 miles on it on the original engine
and tranny only on its second clutch.

dakota2112 wrote:[color=blue]
> Coyoteboy wrote:[color=green]
> > You guys are far too used to high-torque, large capacity engines. My
> > celica (2ltr turbo) runs 2800rpm at 75, in fact virtually every petrol
> > car i have been in other than monster 3.5 to 4 litre ones have been
> > around 3000rpm. Autos are different generally, my dads 3.5 auto sits at
> > about 2200 at 70mph. 2800 rpm is the optimum fuel efficiency speed for
> > a 2litre-ish 4 stroke internal combustion engine, hence why most
> > manufacturers make highway speeds that level in 5th. This changes with
> > engine size and the new VVTi setups but its still approximately correct
> > as it is linked to the speed of combustion of the fuel in the
> > cylinders.[/color]
>
> I've driven a 3.9L V6 pickup truck for 8 years and 170k miles, and I
> admit I've really enjoyed it's super low highway cruise rpm... it turns
> around 2000 rpm in 5th gear at 70mph! This is mainly thanks to the
> 3.21 axle ratio. But the reason I like this low highway rpm is plain
> and simple: less engine wear per unit of distance driven.
>
> I'm putting said truck into semi-retirement and getting either a
> Corolla or a Civic to start using as my daily driver, mainly highway...
> and I much prefer manuals to automatics, but if the automatics are
> keeping these little 4-bangers down closer to 2000rpm, then I might
> have to re-consider. 3000rpm vs 2000rpm is a 50% increase in
> crankshaft revolutions, which scares me a little.[/color]

dakota2112 wrote:[color=blue]
> Coyoteboy wrote:
> have to re-consider. 3000rpm vs 2000rpm is a 50% increase in
> crankshaft revolutions, which scares me a little.[/color]

Dont be scared, wear rate is not only a function of number of
revolutions - its FAR more complex than that. The engine and
transmission has been *designed* to work at that rate, just as the
lower rpm engine has - its not the same as taking the same engine and
running it at different RPMs. In actual fact to run the same engine
slower but output the same power (the power required to maintain
highway speed) would require more torque to be passed through the
engine and driveline which would increase wear somewhat.

J

Coyoteboy wrote:[color=blue]
> dakota2112 wrote:[color=green]
> > Coyoteboy wrote:
> > have to re-consider. 3000rpm vs 2000rpm is a 50% increase in
> > crankshaft revolutions, which scares me a little.[/color]
>
> Dont be scared, wear rate is not only a function of number of
> revolutions - its FAR more complex than that. The engine and
> transmission has been *designed* to work at that rate, just as the
> lower rpm engine has - its not the same as taking the same engine and
> running it at different RPMs. In actual fact to run the same engine
> slower but output the same power (the power required to maintain
> highway speed) would require more torque to be passed through the
> engine and driveline which would increase wear somewhat.
>
> J[/color]

Just as a side note - fatigue failure and wear is a function of load
and speed, but from what i remember its much more greatly related to
load than speed of cycling - so ideally a well balanced high revving
engine would last longer than a slow clunker with big torque.

"High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:1983c5k5aog2o$.dlg@hightech.misfit...[color=blue]
> dakota2112 wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hello all, first time poster... I'm considering buying a 2006 Corolla
>> 5-speed, and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of RPM's
>> these cars turn on the highway?
>>
>> (I'm also looking at a civic, and it turns around 3000 rpm on the
>> highway... way too many RPM's for my liking; I'm hoping the corolla has
>> a better overdrive than the civic?)
>>
>> Thanks in advance![/color]
>
> I drove my folks' '04 Corolla on the highway once. This was with a
> 4-speed
> automatic, and I think it was at 75mph where the RPMs were a steady 3000.
>
> Needless to say, one should achieve lower RPMs at that speed in 5th gear.[/color]

Many automatics have taller gearing compared to their (more ratioed) manual
counterparts.

--
The DervMan
[url]www.dervman.com[/url]

"Coyoteboy" <coyoteboyuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1148041235.753415.264140@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> High Tech Misfit wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I drove my folks' '04 Corolla on the highway once. This was with a
>> 4-speed
>> automatic, and I think it was at 75mph where the RPMs were a steady 3000.
>>
>> Needless to say, one should achieve lower RPMs at that speed in 5th gear.[/color]
>
> You guys are far too used to high-torque, large capacity engines. My
> celica (2ltr turbo) runs 2800rpm at 75, in fact virtually every petrol
> car i have been in other than monster 3.5 to 4 litre ones have been
> around 3000rpm. Autos are different generally, my dads 3.5 auto sits at
> about 2200 at 70mph. 2800 rpm is the optimum fuel efficiency speed for
> a 2litre-ish 4 stroke internal combustion engine[/color]

Eh? How do you figure this?
[color=blue]
> , hence why most
> manufacturers make highway speeds that level in 5th. This changes with
> engine size and the new VVTi setups but its still approximately correct
> as it is linked to the speed of combustion of the fuel in the
> cylinders.[/color]

Hmmm...

--
The DervMan
[url]www.dervman.com[/url]

"dakota2112" <dakota2112@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1148044304.125321.7270@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Coyoteboy wrote:[color=green]
>> You guys are far too used to high-torque, large capacity engines. My
>> celica (2ltr turbo) runs 2800rpm at 75, in fact virtually every petrol
>> car i have been in other than monster 3.5 to 4 litre ones have been
>> around 3000rpm. Autos are different generally, my dads 3.5 auto sits at
>> about 2200 at 70mph. 2800 rpm is the optimum fuel efficiency speed for
>> a 2litre-ish 4 stroke internal combustion engine, hence why most
>> manufacturers make highway speeds that level in 5th. This changes with
>> engine size and the new VVTi setups but its still approximately correct
>> as it is linked to the speed of combustion of the fuel in the
>> cylinders.[/color]
>
> I've driven a 3.9L V6 pickup truck for 8 years and 170k miles, and I
> admit I've really enjoyed it's super low highway cruise rpm... it turns
> around 2000 rpm in 5th gear at 70mph! This is mainly thanks to the
> 3.21 axle ratio. But the reason I like this low highway rpm is plain
> and simple: less engine wear per unit of distance driven.[/color]

But the same wear rate on drivetrain components from final drive to the
road...
[color=blue]
> I'm putting said truck into semi-retirement and getting either a
> Corolla or a Civic to start using as my daily driver, mainly highway...
> and I much prefer manuals to automatics, but if the automatics are
> keeping these little 4-bangers down closer to 2000rpm, then I might
> have to re-consider. 3000rpm vs 2000rpm is a 50% increase in
> crankshaft revolutions, which scares me a little.[/color]

As Coyoteboy has pointed out, this is a simplistic perspective. If the oil
is providing the necessary lubrication you've nothing to worry about. Most
wear is caused when the engine (and associated funkiness) is cold, or when
the oil is shot - reduce cold starts and ensure you change the oil as
recommended and it'll be absolutely fine. Labouring the engine at lower
speeds is bad news for longevity...

--
The DervMan
[url]www.dervman.com[/url]

That was because, if you look at a globe of the earth, it was ALL downhill
from Pennsylvania to Florida ;)


mike


"Scott in Florida" <MoveOn@outa.here> wrote in message
news:cupp62lg8jcjnjjcr1k7u1sn9qncr8lgjh@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On 18 May 2006 13:56:56 -0700, "dakota2112" <dakota2112@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Hello all, first time poster... I'm considering buying a 2006 Corolla
>>5-speed, and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of RPM's
>>these cars turn on the highway?
>>
>>(I'm also looking at a civic, and it turns around 3000 rpm on the
>>highway... way too many RPM's for my liking; I'm hoping the corolla has
>>a better overdrive than the civic?)
>>
>>Thanks in advance![/color]
>
> My son bought a 2006 Corolla S with 5 speed.
>
> As I remember it on our trip from Philadelphia (where we bought his)
> back to Florida....it was around 2K at 65.
>
> A sweet ride....
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida[/color]

"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message news:4M6dnYjj9-WCaPDZUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=blue]
>
>
> That was because, if you look at a globe of the earth, it was ALL downhill from Pennsylvania to Florida ;)
>
>
> mike[/color]

LOL... hahaha



[color=blue]
> "Scott in Florida" <MoveOn@outa.here> wrote in message news:cupp62lg8jcjnjjcr1k7u1sn9qncr8lgjh@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On 18 May 2006 13:56:56 -0700, "dakota2112" <dakota2112@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Hello all, first time poster... I'm considering buying a 2006 Corolla
>>>5-speed, and I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what kind of RPM's
>>>these cars turn on the highway?
>>>
>>>(I'm also looking at a civic, and it turns around 3000 rpm on the
>>>highway... way too many RPM's for my liking; I'm hoping the corolla has
>>>a better overdrive than the civic?)
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance![/color][/color][/color]




I have to ask.

Excluding the gas mileage, performance, dependability and comfort
because you must already know what they are why does it even matter to you!

If the answer was 2,900 or 3,100 for example what RPM is better!


Dan

Danny G. wrote:[color=blue]
> I have to ask.
>
> Excluding the gas mileage, performance, dependability and comfort
> because you must already know what they are why does it even matter to you!
>
> If the answer was 2,900 or 3,100 for example what RPM is better![/color]

It doesn't matter at this point since I've already put a deposit down
on a Civic, but... I was interested in the 5-speed Corolla's highway
RPM's because if it were significantly lower than that of the Civic,
then I would've seriously considered the Corolla over the Civic. I'd
already explained my reasoning in an earlier post - that is, lower
highway RPM translates roughly into less engine wear. I know it isn't
quite as simple as that, but I still would prefer a highway cruise
closer to 2000 rpm than 3000. Since this apparently cannot be achived
with either vehicle's manual transmission, this factor did not play
into my final decision.

(although I'm still confused about one thing... if 3000 rpm is more
ideal for the 1.8L, then why does the automatic's overdrive keep it
down close to 2000? Is the automatic technically worse for the engine
in this respect? Overdrive is meant for cruising, not as a passing
gear... I'd still say the manual's overdrive should keep the rpm's down
closer to that of the automatic)