Now, onto the alarm

It has wiring for + pulsed door locks and - pulsed door locks.
I believe Toyotas are - pulsed. Is there a good place in the kick panel to
get to this? On my 240 SX the Gumby that cobbed the alarm tapped into the
fuse block, and I had to redo it.

Also, it has an ign disable. I have only done one of these before.
Can I tap somewhere in the ign harness to disable the IGN?

BTW, it's a Prestige (Audiovox). They don't care HOW it works, they just
care the alarm goes off when you try to open the car.

Also, a nifty idea: the Driver's door lights the driver's door lock and
the ring around the ignition when you lift the handle. This would be a
pretty decent place to tap when you park places where people walk down the
street lifting door handles.

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:g00eg.282$f_4.107@trndny03...[color=blue]
> It has wiring for + pulsed door locks and - pulsed door locks.
> I believe Toyotas are - pulsed. Is there a good place in the kick panel to
> get to this? On my 240 SX the Gumby that cobbed the alarm tapped into the
> fuse block, and I had to redo it.[/color]

Try putting the control box in the center console, ahead of the shifter and
under the audio system.

I believe the door locks are + pulsed.
[color=blue]
> Also, it has an ign disable. I have only done one of these before.
> Can I tap somewhere in the ign harness to disable the IGN?
>[/color]

Look for the circuit in the kick panel fuse box for a fuse marked IGN, you
can try tapping the wire to that fuse (after the fuse).

[color=blue]
> BTW, it's a Prestige (Audiovox). They don't care HOW it works, they just
> care the alarm goes off when you try to open the car.
>[/color]

Prestige/Audiovox is not OEM, it might be the one that the particular dealer
installed.
[color=blue]
> Also, a nifty idea: the Driver's door lights the driver's door lock and
> the ring around the ignition when you lift the handle. This would be a
> pretty decent place to tap when you park places where people walk down the
> street lifting door handles.
>[/color]

--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Sat, 27 May 2006 17:13:45 -0500, Ray O wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:g00eg.282$f_4.107@trndny03...[color=green]
>> It has wiring for + pulsed door locks and - pulsed door locks.
>> I believe Toyotas are - pulsed. Is there a good place in the kick panel to
>> get to this? On my 240 SX the Gumby that cobbed the alarm tapped into the
>> fuse block, and I had to redo it.[/color]
>
> Try putting the control box in the center console, ahead of the shifter and
> under the audio system.
>
> I believe the door locks are + pulsed.
>[color=green]
>> Also, it has an ign disable. I have only done one of these before.
>> Can I tap somewhere in the ign harness to disable the IGN?
>>[/color]
>
> Look for the circuit in the kick panel fuse box for a fuse marked IGN, you
> can try tapping the wire to that fuse (after the fuse).
>
>[color=green]
>> BTW, it's a Prestige (Audiovox). They don't care HOW it works, they just
>> care the alarm goes off when you try to open the car.
>>[/color]
>
> Prestige/Audiovox is not OEM, it might be the one that the particular dealer
> installed.
>[color=green]
>> Also, a nifty idea: the Driver's door lights the driver's door lock and
>> the ring around the ignition when you lift the handle. This would be a
>> pretty decent place to tap when you park places where people walk down the
>> street lifting door handles.
>>[/color][/color]


Spent Sunday and Monday installing it. I also brought home a video camera
from work that they wanted me to figure out, so I made a video of
installing the alarm.

Turned out to be an expansive weekend; the camera would only work with
Windows 2000 and Linux by accessing the Memory stick; it didn't know how
to deal with the tape. The manual said you needed XP to access the tape...

So...I now have a copy of XP. Only the second time I actually had to buy
an OS; usually I got them free by working for distributors or a large
company like GE. I did buy Windows '95, because they didn't have a
Distributor Support program for '95, but they did for NT (Never figured
that one out...), all the rest have been freebies from my employers.

As for the alarm, it works slicker than...well, it's pretty slick. I made
one mistake during the installation; I yanked the wrong IGN wire from the
Ign cylinder. I tried using the +12V IGN instead of the STARTER wire; 30
seconds later I swapped them.

I made up a little harness for the IGN kill relay and took a spade lug
from some Toy parts I had hanging around, so I didn't have to CUT any
wires, it all snapped back together just like Factory.

It arms itself; it locks the doors when it arms and unlocks them when it
disarms, and it locks the doors when you start the car and unlocks them
when you turn the engine off.

Just like New York!

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.05.30.17.22.32.735000@ae86.gts...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 27 May 2006 17:13:45 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:g00eg.282$f_4.107@trndny03...[color=darkred]
>>> It has wiring for + pulsed door locks and - pulsed door locks.
>>> I believe Toyotas are - pulsed. Is there a good place in the kick panel
>>> to
>>> get to this? On my 240 SX the Gumby that cobbed the alarm tapped into
>>> the
>>> fuse block, and I had to redo it.[/color]
>>
>> Try putting the control box in the center console, ahead of the shifter
>> and
>> under the audio system.
>>
>> I believe the door locks are + pulsed.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Also, it has an ign disable. I have only done one of these before.
>>> Can I tap somewhere in the ign harness to disable the IGN?
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Look for the circuit in the kick panel fuse box for a fuse marked IGN,
>> you
>> can try tapping the wire to that fuse (after the fuse).
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> BTW, it's a Prestige (Audiovox). They don't care HOW it works, they just
>>> care the alarm goes off when you try to open the car.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Prestige/Audiovox is not OEM, it might be the one that the particular
>> dealer
>> installed.
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Also, a nifty idea: the Driver's door lights the driver's door lock and
>>> the ring around the ignition when you lift the handle. This would be a
>>> pretty decent place to tap when you park places where people walk down
>>> the
>>> street lifting door handles.
>>>[/color][/color]
>
>
> Spent Sunday and Monday installing it. I also brought home a video camera
> from work that they wanted me to figure out, so I made a video of
> installing the alarm.
>
> Turned out to be an expansive weekend; the camera would only work with
> Windows 2000 and Linux by accessing the Memory stick; it didn't know how
> to deal with the tape. The manual said you needed XP to access the tape...
>
> So...I now have a copy of XP. Only the second time I actually had to buy
> an OS; usually I got them free by working for distributors or a large
> company like GE. I did buy Windows '95, because they didn't have a
> Distributor Support program for '95, but they did for NT (Never figured
> that one out...), all the rest have been freebies from my employers.
>[/color]

It's tough having to pay for something that you are accustomed to getting
for free. Now you know how I feel when I have to fork out money for cars
and service. ;-)
[color=blue]
> As for the alarm, it works slicker than...well, it's pretty slick. I made
> one mistake during the installation; I yanked the wrong IGN wire from the
> Ign cylinder. I tried using the +12V IGN instead of the STARTER wire; 30
> seconds later I swapped them.
>
> I made up a little harness for the IGN kill relay and took a spade lug
> from some Toy parts I had hanging around, so I didn't have to CUT any
> wires, it all snapped back together just like Factory.[/color]

Smart man! Spade lugs are the way to go - I am not a fan of Scotch Locks.
[color=blue]
>
> It arms itself; it locks the doors when it arms and unlocks them when it
> disarms, and it locks the doors when you start the car and unlocks them
> when you turn the engine off.
>
> Just like New York!
>[/color]

Some day, I'll tell you about a company-owned Supra that was stolen about
100 times in a year and a half.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Tue, 30 May 2006 13:33:29 -0500, Ray O wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:pan.2006.05.30.17.22.32.735000@ae86.gts...[color=green]
>> On Sat, 27 May 2006 17:13:45 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:g00eg.282$f_4.107@trndny03...
>>>> It has wiring for + pulsed door locks and - pulsed door locks.
>>>> I believe Toyotas are - pulsed. Is there a good place in the kick panel
>>>> to
>>>> get to this? On my 240 SX the Gumby that cobbed the alarm tapped into
>>>> the
>>>> fuse block, and I had to redo it.
>>>
>>> Try putting the control box in the center console, ahead of the shifter
>>> and
>>> under the audio system.
>>>
>>> I believe the door locks are + pulsed.
>>>
>>>> Also, it has an ign disable. I have only done one of these before.
>>>> Can I tap somewhere in the ign harness to disable the IGN?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Look for the circuit in the kick panel fuse box for a fuse marked IGN,
>>> you
>>> can try tapping the wire to that fuse (after the fuse).
>>>
>>>
>>>> BTW, it's a Prestige (Audiovox). They don't care HOW it works, they just
>>>> care the alarm goes off when you try to open the car.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Prestige/Audiovox is not OEM, it might be the one that the particular
>>> dealer
>>> installed.
>>>
>>>> Also, a nifty idea: the Driver's door lights the driver's door lock and
>>>> the ring around the ignition when you lift the handle. This would be a
>>>> pretty decent place to tap when you park places where people walk down
>>>> the
>>>> street lifting door handles.
>>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> Spent Sunday and Monday installing it. I also brought home a video camera
>> from work that they wanted me to figure out, so I made a video of
>> installing the alarm.
>>
>> Turned out to be an expansive weekend; the camera would only work with
>> Windows 2000 and Linux by accessing the Memory stick; it didn't know how
>> to deal with the tape. The manual said you needed XP to access the tape...
>>
>> So...I now have a copy of XP. Only the second time I actually had to buy
>> an OS; usually I got them free by working for distributors or a large
>> company like GE. I did buy Windows '95, because they didn't have a
>> Distributor Support program for '95, but they did for NT (Never figured
>> that one out...), all the rest have been freebies from my employers.
>>[/color]
>
> It's tough having to pay for something that you are accustomed to getting
> for free. Now you know how I feel when I have to fork out money for cars
> and service. ;-)[/color]

THat sounds like the better deal to me!!
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> As for the alarm, it works slicker than...well, it's pretty slick. I made
>> one mistake during the installation; I yanked the wrong IGN wire from the
>> Ign cylinder. I tried using the +12V IGN instead of the STARTER wire; 30
>> seconds later I swapped them.
>>
>> I made up a little harness for the IGN kill relay and took a spade lug
>> from some Toy parts I had hanging around, so I didn't have to CUT any
>> wires, it all snapped back together just like Factory.[/color]
>
> Smart man! Spade lugs are the way to go - I am not a fan of Scotch Locks.[/color]

I've cut into too much wire using Scotch Locks. I did have a couple just
in case.

What I did for the power and the praking light flasher and the door locks
was, I tinned the wire about 2/3", and stuffed it into the connector so it
was at the bottom of the contact, and then tie-wrapped it in place. I
gently move the wire to one side so the contact slides a little and then
when you remove the pressure the contact slides back to it's normal
postition so the wire is captivated. The tie-wraps keep it from sliding
out.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>
>> It arms itself; it locks the doors when it arms and unlocks them when it
>> disarms, and it locks the doors when you start the car and unlocks them
>> when you turn the engine off.
>>
>> Just like New York!
>>[/color]
>
> Some day, I'll tell you about a company-owned Supra that was stolen about
> 100 times in a year and a half.[/color]

Um, I just get a discount of 15% on Collision and Comprehensive.

I have $1100 into the car. It books at $2850. If it gets ripped, I *MAKE*
$1400!!!!

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:5L6fg.26$_F6.17@trndny03...[color=blue]
> On Tue, 30 May 2006 13:33:29 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.05.30.17.22.32.735000@ae86.gts...[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 27 May 2006 17:13:45 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:g00eg.282$f_4.107@trndny03...
>>>>> It has wiring for + pulsed door locks and - pulsed door locks.
>>>>> I believe Toyotas are - pulsed. Is there a good place in the kick
>>>>> panel
>>>>> to
>>>>> get to this? On my 240 SX the Gumby that cobbed the alarm tapped into
>>>>> the
>>>>> fuse block, and I had to redo it.
>>>>
>>>> Try putting the control box in the center console, ahead of the shifter
>>>> and
>>>> under the audio system.
>>>>
>>>> I believe the door locks are + pulsed.
>>>>
>>>>> Also, it has an ign disable. I have only done one of these before.
>>>>> Can I tap somewhere in the ign harness to disable the IGN?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Look for the circuit in the kick panel fuse box for a fuse marked IGN,
>>>> you
>>>> can try tapping the wire to that fuse (after the fuse).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> BTW, it's a Prestige (Audiovox). They don't care HOW it works, they
>>>>> just
>>>>> care the alarm goes off when you try to open the car.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Prestige/Audiovox is not OEM, it might be the one that the particular
>>>> dealer
>>>> installed.
>>>>
>>>>> Also, a nifty idea: the Driver's door lights the driver's door lock
>>>>> and
>>>>> the ring around the ignition when you lift the handle. This would be a
>>>>> pretty decent place to tap when you park places where people walk down
>>>>> the
>>>>> street lifting door handles.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Spent Sunday and Monday installing it. I also brought home a video
>>> camera
>>> from work that they wanted me to figure out, so I made a video of
>>> installing the alarm.
>>>
>>> Turned out to be an expansive weekend; the camera would only work with
>>> Windows 2000 and Linux by accessing the Memory stick; it didn't know how
>>> to deal with the tape. The manual said you needed XP to access the
>>> tape...
>>>
>>> So...I now have a copy of XP. Only the second time I actually had to buy
>>> an OS; usually I got them free by working for distributors or a large
>>> company like GE. I did buy Windows '95, because they didn't have a
>>> Distributor Support program for '95, but they did for NT (Never figured
>>> that one out...), all the rest have been freebies from my employers.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> It's tough having to pay for something that you are accustomed to getting
>> for free. Now you know how I feel when I have to fork out money for cars
>> and service. ;-)[/color]
>
> THat sounds like the better deal to me!![/color]

Yeah, I miss having to try to remember what color my car is when I come out
of the mall and renewing the new car smell by getting a new car!
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>> As for the alarm, it works slicker than...well, it's pretty slick. I
>>> made
>>> one mistake during the installation; I yanked the wrong IGN wire from
>>> the
>>> Ign cylinder. I tried using the +12V IGN instead of the STARTER wire; 30
>>> seconds later I swapped them.
>>>
>>> I made up a little harness for the IGN kill relay and took a spade lug
>>> from some Toy parts I had hanging around, so I didn't have to CUT any
>>> wires, it all snapped back together just like Factory.[/color]
>>
>> Smart man! Spade lugs are the way to go - I am not a fan of Scotch
>> Locks.[/color]
>
> I've cut into too much wire using Scotch Locks. I did have a couple just
> in case.
>
> What I did for the power and the praking light flasher and the door locks
> was, I tinned the wire about 2/3", and stuffed it into the connector so it
> was at the bottom of the contact, and then tie-wrapped it in place. I
> gently move the wire to one side so the contact slides a little and then
> when you remove the pressure the contact slides back to it's normal
> postition so the wire is captivated. The tie-wraps keep it from sliding
> out.
>[/color]

Good way to preserve the factory wiring!
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> It arms itself; it locks the doors when it arms and unlocks them when it
>>> disarms, and it locks the doors when you start the car and unlocks them
>>> when you turn the engine off.
>>>
>>> Just like New York!
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Some day, I'll tell you about a company-owned Supra that was stolen about
>> 100 times in a year and a half.[/color]
>
> Um, I just get a discount of 15% on Collision and Comprehensive.
>
> I have $1100 into the car. It books at $2850. If it gets ripped, I *MAKE*
> $1400!!!!
>[/color]

OK, I guess it's some day now. The Supra was originally assigned to the
son of a high ranking executive (the family name happens to be the company
name) while the son was attending college in the Boston area. The car was
stolen, written off, and forgotten about for 3 or 4 years. Lo and behold,
the Boston PD recovers it many years later in very good condition. They
called our office and asked if they could keep the car to test a new theft
recovery device and since the car was already written off, the manager
agreed. They installed a prototype LoJack and parked it in some unsavory
neighborhoods. The car got stolen and recovered about twice a week. The
Boston PD was happy with the chance to confirm that the LoJack worked, and
the car got a little fame in our office.


--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:519f0$447d0f80$180fead6$15431@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:5L6fg.26$_F6.17@trndny03...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 30 May 2006 13:33:29 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2006.05.30.17.22.32.735000@ae86.gts...
>>>> On Sat, 27 May 2006 17:13:45 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>> news:g00eg.282$f_4.107@trndny03...
>>>>>> It has wiring for + pulsed door locks and - pulsed door locks.
>>>>>> I believe Toyotas are - pulsed. Is there a good place in the kick
>>>>>> panel
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get to this? On my 240 SX the Gumby that cobbed the alarm tapped into
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fuse block, and I had to redo it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try putting the control box in the center console, ahead of the
>>>>> shifter
>>>>> and
>>>>> under the audio system.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe the door locks are + pulsed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, it has an ign disable. I have only done one of these before.
>>>>>> Can I tap somewhere in the ign harness to disable the IGN?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Look for the circuit in the kick panel fuse box for a fuse marked IGN,
>>>>> you
>>>>> can try tapping the wire to that fuse (after the fuse).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, it's a Prestige (Audiovox). They don't care HOW it works, they
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> care the alarm goes off when you try to open the car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Prestige/Audiovox is not OEM, it might be the one that the particular
>>>>> dealer
>>>>> installed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, a nifty idea: the Driver's door lights the driver's door lock
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the ring around the ignition when you lift the handle. This would be
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> pretty decent place to tap when you park places where people walk
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> street lifting door handles.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Spent Sunday and Monday installing it. I also brought home a video
>>>> camera
>>>> from work that they wanted me to figure out, so I made a video of
>>>> installing the alarm.
>>>>
>>>> Turned out to be an expansive weekend; the camera would only work with
>>>> Windows 2000 and Linux by accessing the Memory stick; it didn't know
>>>> how
>>>> to deal with the tape. The manual said you needed XP to access the
>>>> tape...
>>>>
>>>> So...I now have a copy of XP. Only the second time I actually had to
>>>> buy
>>>> an OS; usually I got them free by working for distributors or a large
>>>> company like GE. I did buy Windows '95, because they didn't have a
>>>> Distributor Support program for '95, but they did for NT (Never figured
>>>> that one out...), all the rest have been freebies from my employers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's tough having to pay for something that you are accustomed to
>>> getting
>>> for free. Now you know how I feel when I have to fork out money for
>>> cars
>>> and service. ;-)[/color]
>>
>> THat sounds like the better deal to me!![/color]
>
> Yeah, I miss having to try to remember what color my car is when I come
> out of the mall and renewing the new car smell by getting a new car!
>[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> As for the alarm, it works slicker than...well, it's pretty slick. I
>>>> made
>>>> one mistake during the installation; I yanked the wrong IGN wire from
>>>> the
>>>> Ign cylinder. I tried using the +12V IGN instead of the STARTER wire;
>>>> 30
>>>> seconds later I swapped them.
>>>>
>>>> I made up a little harness for the IGN kill relay and took a spade lug
>>>> from some Toy parts I had hanging around, so I didn't have to CUT any
>>>> wires, it all snapped back together just like Factory.
>>>
>>> Smart man! Spade lugs are the way to go - I am not a fan of Scotch
>>> Locks.[/color]
>>
>> I've cut into too much wire using Scotch Locks. I did have a couple just
>> in case.
>>
>> What I did for the power and the praking light flasher and the door locks
>> was, I tinned the wire about 2/3", and stuffed it into the connector so
>> it
>> was at the bottom of the contact, and then tie-wrapped it in place. I
>> gently move the wire to one side so the contact slides a little and then
>> when you remove the pressure the contact slides back to it's normal
>> postition so the wire is captivated. The tie-wraps keep it from sliding
>> out.
>>[/color]
>
> Good way to preserve the factory wiring!
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>> It arms itself; it locks the doors when it arms and unlocks them when
>>>> it
>>>> disarms, and it locks the doors when you start the car and unlocks them
>>>> when you turn the engine off.
>>>>
>>>> Just like New York!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Some day, I'll tell you about a company-owned Supra that was stolen
>>> about
>>> 100 times in a year and a half.[/color]
>>
>> Um, I just get a discount of 15% on Collision and Comprehensive.
>>
>> I have $1100 into the car. It books at $2850. If it gets ripped, I *MAKE*
>> $1400!!!!
>>[/color]
>
> OK, I guess it's some day now. The Supra was originally assigned to the
> son of a high ranking executive (the family name happens to be the company
> name) while the son was attending college in the Boston area. The car was
> stolen, written off, and forgotten about for 3 or 4 years. Lo and behold,
> the Boston PD recovers it many years later in very good condition. They
> called our office and asked if they could keep the car to test a new theft
> recovery device and since the car was already written off, the manager
> agreed. They installed a prototype LoJack and parked it in some unsavory
> neighborhoods. The car got stolen and recovered about twice a week. The
> Boston PD was happy with the chance to confirm that the LoJack worked, and
> the car got a little fame in our office.
>
>
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]


HAHAHAHA! I remember you telling me about the Supra that got stolen, but you
never mentioned the part about LoJack!

We had LoJack here for a while before it spread, because the company is from
Cambridge, I think, and it was developed in conjunction with the MASS State
Police and the Boston Police.

Interesting that Toyota was a manufacturer that helped them develop it!

And, I wish I had that Supra. Except for being stolen a few times, it's
probably low miles...

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:519f0$447d0f80$180fead6$15431@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:5L6fg.26$_F6.17@trndny03...[color=green]
>> On Tue, 30 May 2006 13:33:29 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2006.05.30.17.22.32.735000@ae86.gts...
>>>> On Sat, 27 May 2006 17:13:45 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>> news:g00eg.282$f_4.107@trndny03...
>>>>>> It has wiring for + pulsed door locks and - pulsed door locks.
>>>>>> I believe Toyotas are - pulsed. Is there a good place in the kick
>>>>>> panel
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get to this? On my 240 SX the Gumby that cobbed the alarm tapped into
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> fuse block, and I had to redo it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Try putting the control box in the center console, ahead of the
>>>>> shifter
>>>>> and
>>>>> under the audio system.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe the door locks are + pulsed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, it has an ign disable. I have only done one of these before.
>>>>>> Can I tap somewhere in the ign harness to disable the IGN?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Look for the circuit in the kick panel fuse box for a fuse marked IGN,
>>>>> you
>>>>> can try tapping the wire to that fuse (after the fuse).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW, it's a Prestige (Audiovox). They don't care HOW it works, they
>>>>>> just
>>>>>> care the alarm goes off when you try to open the car.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Prestige/Audiovox is not OEM, it might be the one that the particular
>>>>> dealer
>>>>> installed.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, a nifty idea: the Driver's door lights the driver's door lock
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> the ring around the ignition when you lift the handle. This would be
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> pretty decent place to tap when you park places where people walk
>>>>>> down
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> street lifting door handles.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Spent Sunday and Monday installing it. I also brought home a video
>>>> camera
>>>> from work that they wanted me to figure out, so I made a video of
>>>> installing the alarm.
>>>>
>>>> Turned out to be an expansive weekend; the camera would only work with
>>>> Windows 2000 and Linux by accessing the Memory stick; it didn't know
>>>> how
>>>> to deal with the tape. The manual said you needed XP to access the
>>>> tape...
>>>>
>>>> So...I now have a copy of XP. Only the second time I actually had to
>>>> buy
>>>> an OS; usually I got them free by working for distributors or a large
>>>> company like GE. I did buy Windows '95, because they didn't have a
>>>> Distributor Support program for '95, but they did for NT (Never figured
>>>> that one out...), all the rest have been freebies from my employers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It's tough having to pay for something that you are accustomed to
>>> getting
>>> for free. Now you know how I feel when I have to fork out money for
>>> cars
>>> and service. ;-)[/color]
>>
>> THat sounds like the better deal to me!![/color]
>
> Yeah, I miss having to try to remember what color my car is when I come
> out of the mall and renewing the new car smell by getting a new car!
>[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>> As for the alarm, it works slicker than...well, it's pretty slick. I
>>>> made
>>>> one mistake during the installation; I yanked the wrong IGN wire from
>>>> the
>>>> Ign cylinder. I tried using the +12V IGN instead of the STARTER wire;
>>>> 30
>>>> seconds later I swapped them.
>>>>
>>>> I made up a little harness for the IGN kill relay and took a spade lug
>>>> from some Toy parts I had hanging around, so I didn't have to CUT any
>>>> wires, it all snapped back together just like Factory.
>>>
>>> Smart man! Spade lugs are the way to go - I am not a fan of Scotch
>>> Locks.[/color]
>>
>> I've cut into too much wire using Scotch Locks. I did have a couple just
>> in case.
>>
>> What I did for the power and the praking light flasher and the door locks
>> was, I tinned the wire about 2/3", and stuffed it into the connector so
>> it
>> was at the bottom of the contact, and then tie-wrapped it in place. I
>> gently move the wire to one side so the contact slides a little and then
>> when you remove the pressure the contact slides back to it's normal
>> postition so the wire is captivated. The tie-wraps keep it from sliding
>> out.
>>[/color]
>
> Good way to preserve the factory wiring!
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>> It arms itself; it locks the doors when it arms and unlocks them when
>>>> it
>>>> disarms, and it locks the doors when you start the car and unlocks them
>>>> when you turn the engine off.
>>>>
>>>> Just like New York!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Some day, I'll tell you about a company-owned Supra that was stolen
>>> about
>>> 100 times in a year and a half.[/color]
>>
>> Um, I just get a discount of 15% on Collision and Comprehensive.
>>
>> I have $1100 into the car. It books at $2850. If it gets ripped, I *MAKE*
>> $1400!!!!
>>[/color]
>
> OK, I guess it's some day now. The Supra was originally assigned to the
> son of a high ranking executive (the family name happens to be the company
> name) while the son was attending college in the Boston area. The car was
> stolen, written off, and forgotten about for 3 or 4 years. Lo and behold,
> the Boston PD recovers it many years later in very good condition. They
> called our office and asked if they could keep the car to test a new theft
> recovery device and since the car was already written off, the manager
> agreed. They installed a prototype LoJack and parked it in some unsavory
> neighborhoods. The car got stolen and recovered about twice a week. The
> Boston PD was happy with the chance to confirm that the LoJack worked, and
> the car got a little fame in our office.
>
>
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]


Oh, hay, I got a question for you.

I chased the wire from the Driver's door back to the Fuse block, tapped into
it, and the alarm works Just Fine...
from the Driver's door.

I am assuming there is some function from the Driver's door grounding switch
that is NOT activated by the passenger's door.
On all my other Toyotas, I have followed this wire back to the fuse block,
tapped into it and had no problem. On one car it even activated when the
hatch was opened.

So, I need to find a grounding connection common to both doors; possibly the
dome light.

Any ideas?

Oh, I thought it was the 'glow rings' around the Driver's door lock and the
ignition, but these are activated when you lift the handle on the driver's
door...

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:I7jfg.216$Jm5.63@trndny08...[color=blue]
><snipped>[color=green]
>>
>> OK, I guess it's some day now. The Supra was originally assigned to the
>> son of a high ranking executive (the family name happens to be the
>> company name) while the son was attending college in the Boston area.
>> The car was stolen, written off, and forgotten about for 3 or 4 years.
>> Lo and behold, the Boston PD recovers it many years later in very good
>> condition. They called our office and asked if they could keep the car
>> to test a new theft recovery device and since the car was already written
>> off, the manager agreed. They installed a prototype LoJack and parked it
>> in some unsavory neighborhoods. The car got stolen and recovered about
>> twice a week. The Boston PD was happy with the chance to confirm that
>> the LoJack worked, and the car got a little fame in our office.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
>
>
> HAHAHAHA! I remember you telling me about the Supra that got stolen, but
> you never mentioned the part about LoJack!
>
> We had LoJack here for a while before it spread, because the company is
> from Cambridge, I think, and it was developed in conjunction with the MASS
> State Police and the Boston Police.
>
> Interesting that Toyota was a manufacturer that helped them develop it![/color]

Actually, Toyota did not help them develop the LoJack system, just provided
a vehicle to help convince the Boston PD of its effectiveness.
[color=blue]
>
> And, I wish I had that Supra. Except for being stolen a few times, it's
> probably low miles...[/color]

In the 3 or 4 years that it was originally missing, it only had around
12,000 miles, and the Boston PD put another 4 or 5 thousand miles.
According to the officer that returned it to our office, it had about a
dozen driver's windows installed and around 40 or 50 driver's door and
ignition lock cylinders installed, plus lots of body work on the driver's
door.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:tbjfg.42$_F6.38@trndny03...[color=blue]
>
><snipped>
> Oh, hay, I got a question for you.
>
> I chased the wire from the Driver's door back to the Fuse block, tapped
> into it, and the alarm works Just Fine...
> from the Driver's door.
>
> I am assuming there is some function from the Driver's door grounding
> switch that is NOT activated by the passenger's door.
> On all my other Toyotas, I have followed this wire back to the fuse block,
> tapped into it and had no problem. On one car it even activated when the
> hatch was opened.
>
> So, I need to find a grounding connection common to both doors; possibly
> the dome light.[/color]

I would use the dome light circuit because it does both doors and I think it
also does the hatch.


--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Wed, 31 May 2006 11:42:53 -0500, Ray O wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:tbjfg.42$_F6.38@trndny03...[color=green]
>>
>><snipped>
>> Oh, hay, I got a question for you.
>>
>> I chased the wire from the Driver's door back to the Fuse block, tapped
>> into it, and the alarm works Just Fine...
>> from the Driver's door.
>>
>> I am assuming there is some function from the Driver's door grounding
>> switch that is NOT activated by the passenger's door.
>> On all my other Toyotas, I have followed this wire back to the fuse block,
>> tapped into it and had no problem. On one car it even activated when the
>> hatch was opened.
>>
>> So, I need to find a grounding connection common to both doors; possibly
>> the dome light.[/color]
>
> I would use the dome light circuit because it does both doors and I think it
> also does the hatch.[/color]

I was looking for it! Any idea where it might be? Or, what color wire am I
looking for?

The paper I dl'd from the internet gave the colors for the doors, but for
"Dome Light Supervision", it said "none"

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:juFgg.588$qo4.463@trndny05...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 31 May 2006 11:42:53 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:tbjfg.42$_F6.38@trndny03...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>><snipped>
>>> Oh, hay, I got a question for you.
>>>
>>> I chased the wire from the Driver's door back to the Fuse block, tapped
>>> into it, and the alarm works Just Fine...
>>> from the Driver's door.
>>>
>>> I am assuming there is some function from the Driver's door grounding
>>> switch that is NOT activated by the passenger's door.
>>> On all my other Toyotas, I have followed this wire back to the fuse
>>> block,
>>> tapped into it and had no problem. On one car it even activated when the
>>> hatch was opened.
>>>
>>> So, I need to find a grounding connection common to both doors; possibly
>>> the dome light.[/color]
>>
>> I would use the dome light circuit because it does both doors and I think
>> it
>> also does the hatch.[/color]
>
> I was looking for it! Any idea where it might be? Or, what color wire am I
> looking for?
>
> The paper I dl'd from the internet gave the colors for the doors, but for
> "Dome Light Supervision", it said "none"
>
>[/color]
Sorry, off the top of my head, I have not idea what color or where the dome
light wires might be. you can pull the dome light assembly to see what
color the wires are, and then look at the bottom of the driver's side
A-pillar and see if you can find it.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:06:44 -0500, Ray O wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:juFgg.588$qo4.463@trndny05...[color=green]
>> On Wed, 31 May 2006 11:42:53 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:tbjfg.42$_F6.38@trndny03...
>>>>
>>>><snipped>
>>>> Oh, hay, I got a question for you.
>>>>
>>>> I chased the wire from the Driver's door back to the Fuse block, tapped
>>>> into it, and the alarm works Just Fine...
>>>> from the Driver's door.
>>>>
>>>> I am assuming there is some function from the Driver's door grounding
>>>> switch that is NOT activated by the passenger's door.
>>>> On all my other Toyotas, I have followed this wire back to the fuse
>>>> block,
>>>> tapped into it and had no problem. On one car it even activated when the
>>>> hatch was opened.
>>>>
>>>> So, I need to find a grounding connection common to both doors; possibly
>>>> the dome light.
>>>
>>> I would use the dome light circuit because it does both doors and I think
>>> it
>>> also does the hatch.[/color]
>>
>> I was looking for it! Any idea where it might be? Or, what color wire am I
>> looking for?
>>
>> The paper I dl'd from the internet gave the colors for the doors, but for
>> "Dome Light Supervision", it said "none"
>>
>>[/color]
> Sorry, off the top of my head, I have not idea what color or where the dome
> light wires might be. you can pull the dome light assembly to see what
> color the wires are, and then look at the bottom of the driver's side
> A-pillar and see if you can find it.[/color]

When I did my Corolla I used an ohm/volt meter, but that method didn't
work this time!

If it ever STOPS RAINING here, I'll give it a go!

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:Tnrig.732$ZB3.700@trndny05...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:06:44 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:juFgg.588$qo4.463@trndny05...[color=darkred]
>>> On Wed, 31 May 2006 11:42:53 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:tbjfg.42$_F6.38@trndny03...
>>>>>
>>>>><snipped>
>>>>> Oh, hay, I got a question for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> I chased the wire from the Driver's door back to the Fuse block,
>>>>> tapped
>>>>> into it, and the alarm works Just Fine...
>>>>> from the Driver's door.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am assuming there is some function from the Driver's door grounding
>>>>> switch that is NOT activated by the passenger's door.
>>>>> On all my other Toyotas, I have followed this wire back to the fuse
>>>>> block,
>>>>> tapped into it and had no problem. On one car it even activated when
>>>>> the
>>>>> hatch was opened.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I need to find a grounding connection common to both doors;
>>>>> possibly
>>>>> the dome light.
>>>>
>>>> I would use the dome light circuit because it does both doors and I
>>>> think
>>>> it
>>>> also does the hatch.
>>>
>>> I was looking for it! Any idea where it might be? Or, what color wire am
>>> I
>>> looking for?
>>>
>>> The paper I dl'd from the internet gave the colors for the doors, but
>>> for
>>> "Dome Light Supervision", it said "none"
>>>
>>>[/color]
>> Sorry, off the top of my head, I have not idea what color or where the
>> dome
>> light wires might be. you can pull the dome light assembly to see what
>> color the wires are, and then look at the bottom of the driver's side
>> A-pillar and see if you can find it.[/color]
>
> When I did my Corolla I used an ohm/volt meter, but that method didn't
> work this time!
>
> If it ever STOPS RAINING here, I'll give it a go![/color]

You need to get one of those awnings with aluminum pole frames that you can
park a car or boat under. I think they are around $300 at Sam's
Club/BJ's/Costco. As long as there is no lighting in the area, they are
pretty slick.

I know some Boy Scout troops that use those when they go camping, although
our troop uses traditional canvas dining flies with wooden poles, guy lines,
and stakes.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Ray O <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> writes:
[color=blue]
> You need to get one of those awnings with aluminum pole frames
> that you can park a car or boat under. I think they are around
> $300 at Sam's Club/BJ's/Costco. As long as there is no lighting
> in the area, they are pretty slick.[/color]


I live in a semirural, mountainous area and a lot of people use
those for carports. I have a 20 x 20 one that I ordered by
phone after seeing an ad in a racing equipment catalog (a lot
of people use them as paddock shelters at race tracks). It
cost me all of $150, and that was with optional anchoring "feet"
that cinder blocks or sandbags can be placed on.

They sent me the aluminized tarp, the corner pieces with thumb-
screws, and a bag of elastic ball-ties. It was all neatly
packaged in one of those heavy plastic tote-bins with the
interlocking lids. The catch is that the actual frame pieces
are made of electrical conduit, which you have to purchase and
cut to size yourself. The instructions have the dimensions.

I bought it from a company in Chicago called Shelter Systems.
There's a Shelter Systems on the Web ([url]http://www.shelter-[/url]
systems.com), but while they make a lot of cool stuff, I don't
see anything on their Web page like what I have. But there are
other manufacturers out there who make similar things. I'll
post the phone number tomorrow.



Geoff

--
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organization moves up one notch. The former #3 guy is the
new #2 guy, the former #10 guy is now the #9 guy, and the
new #48 guy is Howard Dean." -- Ann Coulter