New Sienna CE 06 - Have questions.

New Sienna CE 06 - Have questions.

1.
How do I disconnect the close door buzzer - the indicator light is
enough for me? Any downside to doing this?

2.
No place in the Owners Manual dos it mention about any problem
overfilling the gas tank. Is it?

3.
In the manual it says one can use plain water for the windshield
washer. Is that a good thing? Is there any problem with overfilling
it - it does have a nice riser tube.

Regards,
joe

"joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> New Sienna CE 06 - Have questions.
>
> 1.
> How do I disconnect the close door buzzer - the indicator light is
> enough for me? Any downside to doing this?[/color]

Most buzzers are merely plug-in devices that can just be pulled out of the
socket.
[color=blue]
>
> 2.
> No place in the Owners Manual dos it mention about any problem
> overfilling the gas tank. Is it?[/color]

If you often overfill the gas tank, not only are you spilling fuel with the
associated environmental problems, there is a slim chance that you can
saturate the charcoal canister.
[color=blue]
>
> 3.
> In the manual it says one can use plain water for the windshield
> washer. Is that a good thing? Is there any problem with overfilling
> it - it does have a nice riser tube.
>
> Regards,
> joe[/color]

Plain water is not as effective at cleaning the windshield as windshield
washer fluid and plain water will freeze in winter so you have to remember
to add windshield washer fluid before it gets cold. The problem with
overfilling windshield washer fluid is that it can ruin the paint where it
overflows. I believe that the windshield washer reservoir will hold a
gallon so you really have to add a lot to overfill the reservoir.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

Windshield wiper fluid that doesn't get diluted should not be capable of
damaging paint. After all, it ends up on your car paint after being wiped
off your windshield.


"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:sdek72h6hnh2560ln2b9kfqo96he9ohj3e@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> New Sienna CE 06 - Have questions.
>>
>> 1.
>> How do I disconnect the close door buzzer - the indicator light is
>> enough for me? Any downside to doing this?[/color]
>
> Most buzzers are merely plug-in devices that can just be pulled out of the
> socket.
>[color=green]
>>
>> 2.
>> No place in the Owners Manual dos it mention about any problem
>> overfilling the gas tank. Is it?[/color]
>
> If you often overfill the gas tank, not only are you spilling fuel with
> the associated environmental problems, there is a slim chance that you can
> saturate the charcoal canister.
>[color=green]
>>
>> 3.
>> In the manual it says one can use plain water for the windshield
>> washer. Is that a good thing? Is there any problem with overfilling
>> it - it does have a nice riser tube.
>>
>> Regards,
>> joe[/color]
>
> Plain water is not as effective at cleaning the windshield as windshield
> washer fluid and plain water will freeze in winter so you have to remember
> to add windshield washer fluid before it gets cold. The problem with
> overfilling windshield washer fluid is that it can ruin the paint where it
> overflows. I believe that the windshield washer reservoir will hold a
> gallon so you really have to add a lot to overfill the reservoir.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:LPveg.6332$921.3339@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Windshield wiper fluid that doesn't get diluted should not be capable of
> damaging paint. After all, it ends up on your car paint after being wiped
> off your windshield.
>[/color]

The windshield washer fluid that is wiped off of the windshield generally
gets dispersed and so it doesn't really damage paint. Washer fluid that is
spilled near the washer fluid reservoir tends to pool and when it dries, it
leaves a crusty blue stain on the paint. It is not as unsightly under the
hood as it would be on the outer body, but nevertheless, all one has to do
to avoiod the problem is to not overfill the washer fluid reservoir.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

[color=blue]
>
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:c71a0$447a8459$180fead6$7446@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
>> news:sdek72h6hnh2560ln2b9kfqo96he9ohj3e@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> New Sienna CE 06 - Have questions.
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> How do I disconnect the close door buzzer - the indicator light is
>>> enough for me? Any downside to doing this?[/color]
>>
>> Most buzzers are merely plug-in devices that can just be pulled out of
>> the socket.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> No place in the Owners Manual dos it mention about any problem
>>> overfilling the gas tank. Is it?[/color]
>>
>> If you often overfill the gas tank, not only are you spilling fuel with
>> the associated environmental problems, there is a slim chance that you
>> can saturate the charcoal canister.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> 3.
>>> In the manual it says one can use plain water for the windshield
>>> washer. Is that a good thing? Is there any problem with overfilling
>>> it - it does have a nice riser tube.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> joe[/color]
>>
>> Plain water is not as effective at cleaning the windshield as windshield
>> washer fluid and plain water will freeze in winter so you have to
>> remember to add windshield washer fluid before it gets cold. The problem
>> with overfilling windshield washer fluid is that it can ruin the paint
>> where it overflows. I believe that the windshield washer reservoir will
>> hold a gallon so you really have to add a lot to overfill the reservoir.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

"Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:LPveg.6332$921.3339@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>> Windshield wiper fluid that doesn't get diluted should not be capable of
>> damaging paint. After all, it ends up on your car paint after being
>> wiped
>> off your windshield.
>>[/color]
>
> The windshield washer fluid that is wiped off of the windshield generally
> gets dispersed and so it doesn't really damage paint. Washer fluid that
> is spilled near the washer fluid reservoir tends to pool and when it
> dries, it leaves a crusty blue stain on the paint. It is not as unsightly
> under the hood as it would be on the outer body, but nevertheless, all one
> has to do to avoiod the problem is to not overfill the washer fluid
> reservoir.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

Your engine compartment is probably cleaner than the outside of my
car........

On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:19:02 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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>
>"joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:sdek72h6hnh2560ln2b9kfqo96he9ohj3e@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> New Sienna CE 06 - Have questions.
>>
>> 1.
>> How do I disconnect the close door buzzer - the indicator light is
>> enough for me? Any downside to doing this?[/color]
>
>Most buzzers are merely plug-in devices that can just be pulled out of the
>socket.[/color]

Thanks - do 'we' know where that buzzer is located? Is it on the end
of a wire or on a circuit board with a lot of other 'salad'? Under
the hood or ??



[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>
>> 2.
>> No place in the Owners Manual dos it mention about any problem
>> overfilling the gas tank. Is it?[/color]
>
>If you often overfill the gas tank, not only are you spilling fuel with the
>associated environmental problems, there is a slim chance that you can
>saturate the charcoal canister.
>[color=green]
>>
>> 3.
>> In the manual it says one can use plain water for the windshield
>> washer. Is that a good thing? Is there any problem with overfilling
>> it - it does have a nice riser tube.
>>
>> Regards,
>> joe[/color]
>
>Plain water is not as effective at cleaning the windshield as windshield
>washer fluid and plain water will freeze in winter so you have to remember
>to add windshield washer fluid before it gets cold. The problem with
>overfilling windshield washer fluid is that it can ruin the paint where it
>overflows. I believe that the windshield washer reservoir will hold a
>gallon so you really have to add a lot to overfill the reservoir.[/color]

On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:19:02 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:

[color=blue][color=green]
>> 2.
>> No place in the Owners Manual dos it mention about any problem
>> overfilling the gas tank. Is it?[/color]
>
>If you often overfill the gas tank, not only are you spilling fuel with the
>associated environmental problems, there is a slim chance that you can
>saturate the charcoal canister.
>[/color]


So one is just to stop filling at the automatic pump handle shut-off.
And not go to the nearest $10 after that.
j

"joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:19:02 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> 2.
>>> No place in the Owners Manual dos it mention about any problem
>>> overfilling the gas tank. Is it?[/color]
>>
>>If you often overfill the gas tank, not only are you spilling fuel with
>>the
>>associated environmental problems, there is a slim chance that you can
>>saturate the charcoal canister.
>>[/color]
>
>
> So one is just to stop filling at the automatic pump handle shut-off.
> And not go to the nearest $10 after that.
> j[/color]

I would definitely not go to the nearest $10 after the pump handle shuts
off. I would just go to the nearest 5 or 10 cents.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:19:02 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>news:sdek72h6hnh2560ln2b9kfqo96he9ohj3e@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> New Sienna CE 06 - Have questions.
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> How do I disconnect the close door buzzer - the indicator light is
>>> enough for me? Any downside to doing this?[/color]
>>
>>Most buzzers are merely plug-in devices that can just be pulled out of the
>>socket.[/color]
>
> Thanks - do 'we' know where that buzzer is located? Is it on the end
> of a wire or on a circuit board with a lot of other 'salad'? Under
> the hood or ??
>[/color]

I do not know where the buzzer is located. The best way to find it is to
activate it and stick your head under the dashboard and use your fingers to
feel for the buzzing device.

I just thought of a possible downside, and that is the the auto door unlock
feature if you leave your key in the ignition may not work. This device
automatically prevents the power door locks from working if the engine if
off and the key is in the ignition.[color=blue]
>[/color]
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)overfill the reservoir.

Open the door, let it buzz, and look under the dash.

"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:e730c$447b0ea3$180fead6$27030@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:LPveg.6332$921.3339@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=darkred]
>>> Windshield wiper fluid that doesn't get diluted should not be capable of
>>> damaging paint. After all, it ends up on your car paint after being
>>> wiped
>>> off your windshield.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> The windshield washer fluid that is wiped off of the windshield generally
>> gets dispersed and so it doesn't really damage paint. Washer fluid that
>> is spilled near the washer fluid reservoir tends to pool and when it
>> dries, it leaves a crusty blue stain on the paint. It is not as
>> unsightly under the hood as it would be on the outer body, but
>> nevertheless, all one has to do to avoiod the problem is to not overfill
>> the washer fluid reservoir.
>> --
>>. Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
> Your engine compartment is probably cleaner than the outside of my
> car........
>[/color]

The engine compartments of our cars are not pristine by any means. They are
pretty dusty, but I always wipe off spills so that any leaks and the sources
of those leaks will be evident right away. I fill the washer fluid until
the fluid touches the bottom of the basket screen - a few extra ounces to
fill it to the brim and spill over serves no purpose. The other fluid
reservoirs under the hood all have markings to indicate when the proper
fluid level is reached. I coat the battery terminals with a spray made for
that purpose so you do not get the acid buildup on the posts and clamps.
BTW, it is not actually the posts that weep acid; it is the space between
the battery case and posts that allows the acid fumes to escape so spraying
enough to coat that gap or using one of those treated felt washers that you
place under the clamp will help prevent the acid buildup on the posts.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:35:11 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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>
>"joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:cu7m72pmidp13m6vksgtoagjoq7ljki6in@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:19:02 -0500, "Ray O"
>> <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> 2.
>>>> No place in the Owners Manual dos it mention about any problem
>>>> overfilling the gas tank. Is it?
>>>
>>>If you often overfill the gas tank, not only are you spilling fuel with
>>>the
>>>associated environmental problems, there is a slim chance that you can
>>>saturate the charcoal canister.
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> So one is just to stop filling at the automatic pump handle shut-off.
>> And not go to the nearest $10 after that.
>> j[/color]
>
>I would definitely not go to the nearest $10 after the pump handle shuts
>off. I would just go to the nearest 5 or 10 cents.[/color]

Thanks.
I was kidding about the high cost of gas.

j

On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:46:16 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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>
>"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:KFEeg.9121$y4.6953@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=green]
>>
>> "Ray O" <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>> news:e730c$447b0ea3$180fead6$27030@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:LPveg.6332$921.3339@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>>>> Windshield wiper fluid that doesn't get diluted should not be capable of
>>>> damaging paint. After all, it ends up on your car paint after being
>>>> wiped
>>>> off your windshield.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The windshield washer fluid that is wiped off of the windshield generally
>>> gets dispersed and so it doesn't really damage paint. Washer fluid that
>>> is spilled near the washer fluid reservoir tends to pool and when it
>>> dries, it leaves a crusty blue stain on the paint. It is not as
>>> unsightly under the hood as it would be on the outer body, but
>>> nevertheless, all one has to do to avoiod the problem is to not overfill
>>> the washer fluid reservoir.
>>> --
>>>. Ray O
>>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Your engine compartment is probably cleaner than the outside of my
>> car........
>>[/color]
>
>The engine compartments of our cars are not pristine by any means. They are
>pretty dusty, but I always wipe off spills so that any leaks and the sources
>of those leaks will be evident right away. I fill the washer fluid until
>the fluid touches the bottom of the basket screen - a few extra ounces to
>fill it to the brim and spill over serves no purpose. The other fluid
>reservoirs under the hood all have markings to indicate when the proper
>fluid level is reached. I coat the battery terminals with a spray made for
>that purpose so you do not get the acid buildup on the posts and clamps.
>BTW, it is not actually the posts that weep acid; it is the space between
>the battery case and posts that allows the acid fumes to escape so spraying
>enough to coat that gap or using one of those treated felt washers that you
>place under the clamp will help prevent the acid buildup on the posts.[/color]


In a previous life I believe I remember seeing the washer container
with a 'thick' jell in the bottom half of the tank.

Is any old fluid at the store OK these days? Or are specific brands
needed?

So one need special tools and/or knowledge to repair or clean the
washer system? (per manual)

joe

On Mon, 29 May 2006 11:38:36 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:fl7m729gdrcnnl1ee0p0itgmlbl50g5eo5@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:19:02 -0500, "Ray O"
>> <rokigawa@tristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>"joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>>news:sdek72h6hnh2560ln2b9kfqo96he9ohj3e@4ax.com...
>>>> New Sienna CE 06 - Have questions.
>>>>
>>>> 1.
>>>> How do I disconnect the close door buzzer - the indicator light is
>>>> enough for me? Any downside to doing this?
>>>
>>>Most buzzers are merely plug-in devices that can just be pulled out of the
>>>socket.[/color]
>>
>> Thanks - do 'we' know where that buzzer is located? Is it on the end
>> of a wire or on a circuit board with a lot of other 'salad'? Under
>> the hood or ??
>>[/color]
>
>I do not know where the buzzer is located. The best way to find it is to
>activate it and stick your head under the dashboard and use your fingers to
>feel for the buzzing device.
>
>I just thought of a possible downside, and that is the the auto door unlock
>feature if you leave your key in the ignition may not work. This device
>automatically prevents the power door locks from working if the engine if
>off and the key is in the ignition.[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]


T may have me fooled. It appears that the buzzer is generated and
then sent to the speaker for the radio and CD. Could this be?
If not it sure is packed in there way up under at the center under the
dash.

I just wanted to be able to use the radio etc. with the engine off and
a door open without the buzzer. Perhaps the only possible way is to
have a window open <grin>.

joe

"joe" <nospam@invalid.com> wrote in message
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><snipped>
>
> In a previous life I believe I remember seeing the washer container
> with a 'thick' jell in the bottom half of the tank.
>
> Is any old fluid at the store OK these days? Or are specific brands
> needed?[/color]

While there may be differences between brands of windshield washer fluid, I
just buy the cheapest stuff I can find. You can sometimes find it on sale
in the late spring and early summer for 99 cents a gallon, I buy a case at
that price.
[color=blue]
>
> So one need special tools and/or knowledge to repair or clean the
> washer system? (per manual)
>
> joe
>
>[/color]
I don't think there was any reference to repair or cleaning the windshield
washer system in the owner's manual and they normally do not need routine
service. If you fill the reservoir with tap water, you run the risk of it
freezing and cracking the washer fluid reservoir. You can also dilute the
washer fluid with water during the summer and go back to full strength in
the winter. Washer fluid is inexpensive enough that I always use it full
strength and then I don't have to worry about it freezing.

These days, the washer fluid reservoir on Toyotas is pretty concealed with
only the filler neck visible, and to be honest, I've never inspected the
bottom of the washer fluid reservoir to see what is down there. Servicing
windshield washer reservoirs is probably a hassle because you have to
disassemble quite a bit to get at the reservoir.
..
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)