{OT} going dutch

Dutch pedophiles to launch political party Tue May 30, 8:55 AM ET


Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in
the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization
of child pornography and sex with animals.

The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it
would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to
shake The Hague awake!"

The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to
12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.

"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the
party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding
that the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child
abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium. "We have been hushed up. The only
way is through parliament."

The Netherlands already has liberal policies on soft drugs,
prostitution, and gay marriage, but the NVD is unlikely to win much
support, the AD quoted experts as saying.

"They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their
position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is
of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen
van Engelen told the daily.

The party said private possession of child pornography should be
allowed although it favors banning the trade of such materials. The
broadcast of pornography should be allowed on daytime television, with
only violent pornography limited to the late evening, according to the
party.

Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should
be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves.
Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should
remain illegal, the NVD said.

The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public.

The party's program also includes ideas for other areas of public
policy including legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train
travel for all.


[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060530/od_nm/dutch_pedophiles_dc_1;_ylt=AjV[/url]
BFeaDztqdqPKoV_fiiYoZ.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBidHQxYjh2BHNlYwN5bnN0b3J5

If it happened here the ACLU would back it!



"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0emvhjbr2hj0k001@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> Dutch pedophiles to launch political party Tue May 30, 8:55 AM ET
>
>
> Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in
> the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization
> of child pornography and sex with animals.
>
> The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it
> would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to
> shake The Hague awake!"
>
> The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to
> 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.
>
> "A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the
> party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.
>
> "We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding
> that the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child
> abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium. "We have been hushed up. The only
> way is through parliament."
>
> The Netherlands already has liberal policies on soft drugs,
> prostitution, and gay marriage, but the NVD is unlikely to win much
> support, the AD quoted experts as saying.
>
> "They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their
> position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is
> of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen
> van Engelen told the daily.
>
> The party said private possession of child pornography should be
> allowed although it favors banning the trade of such materials. The
> broadcast of pornography should be allowed on daytime television, with
> only violent pornography limited to the late evening, according to the
> party.
>
> Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should
> be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves.
> Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should
> remain illegal, the NVD said.
>
> The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public.
>
> The party's program also includes ideas for other areas of public
> policy including legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train
> travel for all.
>
>
> [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060530/od_nm/dutch_pedophiles_dc_1;_ylt=AjV[/url]
> BFeaDztqdqPKoV_fiiYoZ.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBidHQxYjh2BHNlYwN5bnN0b3J5[/color]

Hachiroku wrote:[color=blue]
> If it happened here the ACLU would back it!
>
>
>
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0emvhjbr2hj0k001@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
> > Dutch pedophiles to launch political party Tue May 30, 8:55 AM ET
> >
> >
> > Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in
> > the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization
> > of child pornography and sex with animals.
> >
> > The Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) party said on its Web site it
> > would be officially registered Wednesday, proclaiming: "We are going to
> > shake The Hague awake!"
> >
> > The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to
> > 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.
> >
> > "A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the
> > party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.
> >
> > "We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding
> > that the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child
> > abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium. "We have been hushed up. The only
> > way is through parliament."
> >
> > The Netherlands already has liberal policies on soft drugs,
> > prostitution, and gay marriage, but the NVD is unlikely to win much
> > support, the AD quoted experts as saying.
> >
> > "They make out as if they want more rights for children. But their
> > position that children should be allowed sexual contact from age 12 is
> > of course just in their own interest," anti-pedophile campaigner Ireen
> > van Engelen told the daily.
> >
> > The party said private possession of child pornography should be
> > allowed although it favors banning the trade of such materials. The
> > broadcast of pornography should be allowed on daytime television, with
> > only violent pornography limited to the late evening, according to the
> > party.
> >
> > Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should
> > be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves.
> > Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should
> > remain illegal, the NVD said.
> >
> > The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public.
> >
> > The party's program also includes ideas for other areas of public
> > policy including legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train
> > travel for all.
> >Please stay out of here unless you are willing to talk about cars, thank you and God Bless, Jesus loves you...(mr. happy:)
> >
> > [url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060530/od_nm/dutch_pedophiles_dc_1;_ylt=AjV[/url]
> > BFeaDztqdqPKoV_fiiYoZ.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTBidHQxYjh2BHNlYwN5bnN0b3J5[/color][/color]

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> Dutch pedophiles to launch political party Tue May 30, 8:55 AM ET[/color]

Then there's carl rove, george w. bush (& family) and DICK cheney.
The world's a dicey place. Should be obvious. Point?

FanJet, 5/31/2006,9:54:32 PM, wrote:
[color=blue]
> Point?[/color]

The point is the Netherlands is what many extremist liberals hold up as
a model for what they want America to be like. For a party like this
to exist shows to what decadence that country has arrived.

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> FanJet, 5/31/2006,9:54:32 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Point?[/color]
>
> For a party like this to exist shows to what decadence that country has
> arrived.[/color]

So, what's these mean?

[url]http://www.cpusa.org/[/url]

&?

[url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145725,00.html[/url]

&
How do you explain away this idiot?

[url]http://www.patrobertson.com/[/url]

All US based and corn-fed.

FanJet, 5/31/2006,11:29:24 PM, wrote:
[color=blue]
> badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
> > FanJet, 5/31/2006,9:54:32 PM, wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > Point?[/color]
> >
> > For a party like this to exist shows to what decadence that
> > country has arrived.[/color]
>
> So, what's these mean?
>
> [url]http://www.cpusa.org/[/url]
>
> &?
>
> [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145725,00.html[/url]
>
> &
> How do you explain away this idiot?
>
> [url]http://www.patrobertson.com/[/url]
>
> All US based and corn-fed.[/color]

Are you a moron or a pervert? Which one of those advocates sex with
children? Do you not hold anything as unacceptable except President
Bush's administration?

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0emya5x6tmmhx002@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> FanJet, 5/31/2006,11:29:24 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > FanJet, 5/31/2006,9:54:32 PM, wrote:
>> >
>> > > Point?
>> >
>> > For a party like this to exist shows to what decadence that
>> > country has arrived.[/color]
>>
>> So, what's these mean?
>>
>> [url]http://www.cpusa.org/[/url]
>>
>> &?
>>
>> [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145725,00.html[/url]
>>
>> &
>> How do you explain away this idiot?
>>
>> [url]http://www.patrobertson.com/[/url]
>>
>> All US based and corn-fed.[/color]
>
> Are you a moron or a pervert? Which one of those advocates sex with
> children? Do you not hold anything as unacceptable except President
> Bush's administration?[/color]

Let's face it, the pervs defined deviancy down. Under Silly Billy they
redefined sex. It used to be between a male and a female going 'all the
way'. Now it can be just about any thing.

Now the pervs and the left are trying to destroy the long held definition of
marriage, too. What the Dutch are doing is the next step after that.

FartJet, Truckdud and Fart should all be ashamed, but they have no shame
left. They only want to shame the people like us that want traditional
values and get in the way of their marching perversion.

Charles of Schamuburg.

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:QbudnSUQ5otBROPZRVn-ig@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0emya5x6tmmhx002@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
>> FanJet, 5/31/2006,11:29:24 PM, wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> badgolferman wrote:
>>> > FanJet, 5/31/2006,9:54:32 PM, wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Point?
>>> >
>>> > For a party like this to exist shows to what decadence that
>>> > country has arrived.
>>>
>>> So, what's these mean?
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.cpusa.org/[/url]
>>>
>>> &?
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145725,00.html[/url]
>>>
>>> &
>>> How do you explain away this idiot?
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.patrobertson.com/[/url]
>>>
>>> All US based and corn-fed.[/color]
>>
>> Are you a moron or a pervert? Which one of those advocates sex with
>> children? Do you not hold anything as unacceptable except President
>> Bush's administration?[/color]
>
> Let's face it, the pervs defined deviancy down. Under Silly Billy they
> redefined sex. It used to be between a male and a female going 'all the
> way'. Now it can be just about any thing.
>
> Now the pervs and the left are trying to destroy the long held definition
> of marriage, too. What the Dutch are doing is the next step after that.
>
> FartJet, Truckdud and Fart should all be ashamed, but they have no shame
> left. They only want to shame the people like us that want traditional
> values and get in the way of their marching perversion.
>
> Charles of Schamuburg.
>[/color]

??? Let me know when you get back to Earth.

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> FanJet, 5/31/2006,9:54:32 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Point?[/color]
>
> The point is the Netherlands is what many extremist liberals hold up as
> a model for what they want America to be like.[/color]

Extremist liberals? Those bastards! I hear they have SEX over there.
Must be controlled by SATAN!
[color=blue]
> For a party like this
> to exist shows to what decadence that country has arrived.[/color]

Do you know what parties exist in the US ? Ever hear of NAMBLA?
Things exist and you just have to deal with it. Unless you want to
outlaw thoughts and ideas? Maybe you do, are you a right wing
Christian? If so, then I can hold up the Taliban as a model for what
Right wing Christians would like America to be like, except replace the
Koran with the Right Wing Bible.

n5hsr wrote:[color=blue]
> "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:xn0emya5x6tmmhx002@news.readfreenews.net...[color=green]
> > FanJet, 5/31/2006,11:29:24 PM, wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> badgolferman wrote:
> >> > FanJet, 5/31/2006,9:54:32 PM, wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Point?
> >> >
> >> > For a party like this to exist shows to what decadence that
> >> > country has arrived.
> >>
> >> So, what's these mean?
> >>
> >> [url]http://www.cpusa.org/[/url]
> >>
> >> &?
> >>
> >> [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145725,00.html[/url]
> >>
> >> &
> >> How do you explain away this idiot?
> >>
> >> [url]http://www.patrobertson.com/[/url]
> >>
> >> All US based and corn-fed.[/color]
> >
> > Are you a moron or a pervert? Which one of those advocates sex with
> > children? Do you not hold anything as unacceptable except President
> > Bush's administration?[/color]
>
> Let's face it, the pervs defined deviancy down. Under Silly Billy they
> redefined sex. It used to be between a male and a female going 'all the
> way'. Now it can be just about any thing.
>
> Now the pervs and the left are trying to destroy the long held definition of
> marriage, too. What the Dutch are doing is the next step after that.
>
> FartJet, Truckdud and Fart should all be ashamed, but they have no shame
> left. They only want to shame the people like us that want traditional
> values and get in the way of their marching perversion.
>
> Charles of Schamuburg.[/color]

Religious leaders are notorious sexual predators. Priests have been
butt ramming little boys for over a thousand years, so get off your
moral high horse.

ToMh, 6/1/2006, 12:45:25 PM,
<1149180324.945589.186980@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
> > For a party like this
> > to exist shows to what decadence that country has arrived.[/color]
>
> Do you know what parties exist in the US ? Ever hear of NAMBLA?
> Things exist and you just have to deal with it. Unless you want to
> outlaw thoughts and ideas? Maybe you do, are you a right wing
> Christian? If so, then I can hold up the Taliban as a model for what
> Right wing Christians would like America to be like, except replace
> the Koran with the Right Wing Bible.[/color]

Yes, I know about NAMBLA. They are not a political party, they are a
bunch of homosexual predators trying to legitimize themselves. This
would be the perfect opportunity for the entire organization to move to
Holland.

I am a member of the United Methodist Church, which is hardly a
conservative church. We have women ministers, communion is open to
all, and there are plenty of homosexuals in my church. My Sunday
School teacher is one, yet she doesn't have the need to go around
throwing it into everyone's face.

Obviously you have no concept of what the Bible is all about. If
anything, the New Testament and Jesus' teachings would be considered
very liberal today. There is no such thing as the "Right Wing Bible."
It's only the extremist "anything goes" crowd who are afraid of any
constraints upon human immorality.

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> ToMh, 6/1/2006, 12:45:25 PM,
> <1149180324.945589.186980@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > For a party like this
> > > to exist shows to what decadence that country has arrived.[/color]
> >
> > Do you know what parties exist in the US ? Ever hear of NAMBLA?
> > Things exist and you just have to deal with it. Unless you want to
> > outlaw thoughts and ideas? Maybe you do, are you a right wing
> > Christian? If so, then I can hold up the Taliban as a model for what
> > Right wing Christians would like America to be like, except replace
> > the Koran with the Right Wing Bible.[/color]
>
> Yes, I know about NAMBLA. They are not a political party, they are a
> bunch of homosexual predators trying to legitimize themselves. This
> would be the perfect opportunity for the entire organization to move to
> Holland.
>[/color]

Didn't say they were a political organization, just pointing out that
the Dutch are about as likely to support this "Pedophile party" about
as much as Americans support NAMBLA.

[color=blue]
> I am a member of the United Methodist Church, which is hardly a
> conservative church. We have women ministers, communion is open to
> all, and there are plenty of homosexuals in my church. My Sunday
> School teacher is one, yet she doesn't have the need to go around
> throwing it into everyone's face.
>[/color]

That's nice. I guess you just hate "Liberal extremists" I guess I don't
really know what they are? Is this an organized party? Are they more
dangerous than "Extremist Conservatives, or "Islamic extremists" or any
"religious extremists" ?

[color=blue]
> Obviously you have no concept of what the Bible is all about. If
> anything, the New Testament and Jesus' teachings would be considered
> very liberal today. There is no such thing as the "Right Wing Bible."
> It's only the extremist "anything goes" crowd who are afraid of any
> constraints upon human immorality.[/color]

Sorry but I have a very good concept of the Bible ( New Testament, I've
written off the Old Testament as a bunch of fictional baloney) I agree
with your assessment of Jesus' teachings, but Right wing Christians
do not follow Jesus' teaching of tolerance and forgiveness, they use
the Bible (mostly Old Testament ) to support a conservative agenda of
hate and intolerance. I'm certainly not accusing Methodists, or most
churches of this.

I suspect that this "extremist "anything goes" crowd who are afraid of
any
Constraints upon human immorality." is much larger in your mind than in
reality, but religions need enemies to justify there existence, so why
not create the "extremist Liberal" threat.

[color=blue]
>Sorry but I have a very good concept of the Bible ( New Testament, I've
>written off the Old Testament as a bunch of fictional baloney) I agree
>with your assessment of Jesus' teachings, but Right wing Christians
>do not follow Jesus' teaching of tolerance and forgiveness, they use
>the Bible (mostly Old Testament ) to support a conservative agenda of
>hate and intolerance. I'm certainly not accusing Methodists, or most
>churches of this.[/color]

Most churches do not teach Christianity, teach Paulisum. More is
pulled out of "Acts & Letters" than is ever taken from Mathew, Mark,
Luke & John.

[color=blue]
>
>I suspect that this "extremist "anything goes" crowd who are afraid of
>any
>Constraints upon human immorality." is much larger in your mind than in
>reality, but religions need enemies to justify there existence, so why
>not create the "extremist Liberal" threat.[/color]

Right on!!

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> FanJet, 5/31/2006,11:29:24 PM, wrote:
>[color=green]
>> badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> FanJet, 5/31/2006,9:54:32 PM, wrote:
>>>
>>>> Point?
>>>
>>> For a party like this to exist shows to what decadence that
>>> country has arrived.[/color]
>>
>> So, what's these mean?
>>
>> [url]http://www.cpusa.org/[/url]
>>
>> &?
>>
>> [url]http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,145725,00.html[/url]
>>
>> &
>> How do you explain away this idiot?
>>
>> [url]http://www.patrobertson.com/[/url]
>>
>> All US based and corn-fed.[/color]
>
> Are you a moron or a pervert? Which one of those advocates sex with
> children? Do you not hold anything as unacceptable except President
> Bush's administration?[/color]

Obviously went sailing right over your head but sane people don't take the
NVD anymore seriously than they do pat robinson or the others I hyperlinked.
Get it now?