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Old 06-10-2006, 05:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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six-cylinder oil capacity

My 2000 Sienna has the six-cylinder engine and I change oil myself.
The manual says with a filter change it takes 5 quarts. The last
couple of times I've changed the oil it's taken 5.5 quarts. I've only
had the van a year so I don't have much of a reference to gauge it
against. What is your experience with the six-cylinder Toyota engine?
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Old 06-10-2006, 06:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity

I always put 5qts in the 1MZFE.

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Old 06-12-2006, 10:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity


badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> My 2000 Sienna has the six-cylinder engine and I change oil myself.
> The manual says with a filter change it takes 5 quarts.[/color]

I put 5 quarts into my '98 Sienna and the oil level reads full (with
both Toyota and Purolator oil filters).
Sure you have the proper oil filter?

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Old 06-12-2006, 10:56 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity

ACAR, 6/12/2006, 11:46:39 AM,
<1150127199.163423.246990@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
> > My 2000 Sienna has the six-cylinder engine and I change oil myself.
> > The manual says with a filter change it takes 5 quarts.[/color]
>
> I put 5 quarts into my '98 Sienna and the oil level reads full (with
> both Toyota and Purolator oil filters).
> Sure you have the proper oil filter?[/color]

I have the filter Toyota sells.
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Old 06-12-2006, 07:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
>
> The last couple of times I've changed the oil
> it's taken 5.5 quarts.[/color]


I've never replaced the oil in my cars myself, but after
reading this newsgroup, I'm considering learning how in
order to avoid any potential mistakes by the service shop.

You know what they say, I guess, "If you want a job done
right..." Maybe some of the expert techs on this channel
can tell us how common or uncommon errors are at shops.

Here is what the '06 Camry manual says:

"Avoid overfilling, or the engine could be damaged."

"The approximate quantity of oil needed to raise the
level between low and full on the dipstick is indicated" as
follows:

2.4 liter 4-cylinder (2AZ-FE) engine -> 1.1 quarts.

3.0 liter V6 (1MZ-FE) AND 3.3 liter V6 (3MZ-FE)
engines -> 1.6 quarts.

The manual also mentions that the oil capacity of the
2AZ-FE is 4.0 quarts _with filter_ and 3.8 quarts
_without filter_.

The capacity of both the 1MZ-FE and the 3MZ-FE engines
is 5.0 quarts _with filter_ and 4.8 quarts _without filter_.

My "Auto Upkeep" book also says don't overfill.

Hope that helps a bit.

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Old 06-12-2006, 08:38 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity


badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> ACAR, 6/12/2006, 11:46:39 AM,
> <1150127199.163423.246990@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >
> > badgolferman wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > My 2000 Sienna has the six-cylinder engine and I change oil myself.
> > > The manual says with a filter change it takes 5 quarts.[/color]
> >
> > I put 5 quarts into my '98 Sienna and the oil level reads full (with
> > both Toyota and Purolator oil filters).
> > Sure you have the proper oil filter?[/color]
>
> I have the filter Toyota sells.[/color]

OK, how long do you wait for the oil to drain back into the pan after
starting the engine? Next time try this, do the oil change and start
the car to check for leaks. Shut down and let it sit for an hour (or
overnight) and then measure the level on the dip stick.

If the oil level shows a half quart low after allowing plenty of time
for the oil to drain into the pan, I'd put in the "extra" half quart.

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Old 06-12-2006, 09:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity

Here's a tech tip about overfilling oil from "Auto Upkeep."

The book thus sprach:

"If one is good, then two is better, right? Not always.
Engine oil contains detergents to help clean particles
and other materials in the engine, similar to soap in a
washing machine. If you overfill your engine oil, you will
get air bubbles. Air does not have much of a lubricating
ability. And adding too much oil can increase oil pressure
causing failure to various seals and gaskets."

Oh, oh, I would not overfill. Stick with the manual, and
you should be fine.

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Old 06-12-2006, 09:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity

ACAR, 6/12/2006,9:38:35 PM, wrote:
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> badgolferman wrote:[color=green]
> > ACAR, 6/12/2006, 11:46:39 AM,
> > <1150127199.163423.246990@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > >
> > > badgolferman wrote:
> > > > My 2000 Sienna has the six-cylinder engine and I change oil
> > > > myself. The manual says with a filter change it takes 5 quarts.
> > >
> > > I put 5 quarts into my '98 Sienna and the oil level reads full
> > > (with both Toyota and Purolator oil filters).
> > > Sure you have the proper oil filter?[/color]
> >
> > I have the filter Toyota sells.[/color]
>
> OK, how long do you wait for the oil to drain back into the pan after
> starting the engine? Next time try this, do the oil change and start
> the car to check for leaks. Shut down and let it sit for an hour (or
> overnight) and then measure the level on the dip stick.
>
> If the oil level shows a half quart low after allowing plenty of time
> for the oil to drain into the pan, I'd put in the "extra" half quart.[/color]

I've changed oil in my cars for the past 25 years so I've had a bit of
experience in doing this. I checked the level after a couple of hours
and saw it was half a quart low. I was surprised since I used one of
those 5 quart oil containers. So I left it overnight and checked again
and it was still low. That's when I put in another half quart. The
used oil fit in the empty 5 quart container so I am still wondering. I
checked the oil this morning and it was still where I expected it---at
the full level.

--
Politicians, like diapers, have to be changed frequently - and for the
very same reason.
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:39 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity

Hmm, could the dipstick be miscalibrated? Maybe it's another
case of bad metering like Toyota's fuel guages (I don't trust
the Camry's fuel guage either).

That would be one way to explain why the 5.0 quarts mentioned in
the manual still leaves badgolferman's Sienna a half-quart low,
according to the stick.

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Old 06-12-2006, 11:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity


"Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toyota@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1150165213.645064.205230@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Here's a tech tip about overfilling oil from "Auto Upkeep."
>
> The book thus sprach:
>
> "If one is good, then two is better, right? Not always.
> Engine oil contains detergents to help clean particles
> and other materials in the engine, similar to soap in a
> washing machine. If you overfill your engine oil, you will
> get air bubbles. Air does not have much of a lubricating
> ability. And adding too much oil can increase oil pressure
> causing failure to various seals and gaskets."
>
> Oh, oh, I would not overfill. Stick with the manual, and
> you should be fine.
>[/color]

An additional 1/2 quart of oil is not enough to cause "air bubbles"
(normally referred to as "foaming")

Your "Auto Upkeep" book is incorrect in that adding too much oil cannot
increase oil pressure. Oil pressure is a function of the oil's properties,
the oil pump, engine RPM, and bearing clearance.

The OP should fill the oil so that the dipstick indicated "full" after the
engine has been sitting for a while, even if it is a half quart more than
indicated in the owner's manual. As I mentioned above, 1/2 quart too much
will not cause any problems, and then the OP has a mark on the dip stick as
a reference when checking oil for oil consumption.

Also, the OP is inserting the dip stick all the way down into the tube,
right?
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Old 06-13-2006, 12:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Re: six-cylinder oil capacity

badgolferman wrote:[color=blue]
> I was surprised since I used one of
> those 5 quart oil containers.[/color]

Possible that you were shorted. In any event, after 25 years, you know
to fill it to the "full" mark. Next oil change try single quart
containers and see if you get a different result.

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