New German 157 mpg 4-seater sports car

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:06:26 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
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>>
>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds[/color]
>
>0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less than
>270 pounds (with driver).
>LAW OF PHYSICS, DA -[/color]

Uh, wouldn't that depend on factors you've not listed?[color=blue]
>[/color]
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:15:33 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
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>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:06:26 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>><maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>news:1151021004.003629.92970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>>>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>>>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
>>>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
>>>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds
>>>
>>>0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less than
>>>270 pounds (with driver).
>>>LAW OF PHYSICS, DA -[/color]
>>
>> Uh, wouldn't that depend on factors you've not listed?[/color]
>
>Nope, anybody that races cars know that, it is a simple relationship, all
>you need is HP, weight of car, and the zero to 60 time. Google for it.[/color]

Ah, so someone should tell drag racers and nascar drivers that drag
has nothing to do with speed. Worrying about areodynamics is
un-necessary. Heh. Riiiiiiight.



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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:38:03 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
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>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:15:33 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>>news:e7ff1f$79m$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>>>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:06:26 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>>>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1151021004.003629.92970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>>>>>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>>>>>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
>>>>>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
>>>>>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds
>>>>>
>>>>>0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less
>>>>>than
>>>>>270 pounds (with driver).
>>>>>LAW OF PHYSICS, DA -
>>>>
>>>> Uh, wouldn't that depend on factors you've not listed?
>>>
>>>Nope, anybody that races cars know that, it is a simple relationship, all
>>>you need is HP, weight of car, and the zero to 60 time. Google for it.[/color]
>>
>> Ah, so someone should tell drag racers and nascar drivers that drag
>> has nothing to do with speed. Worrying about areodynamics is
>> un-necessary. Heh. Riiiiiiight.
>>[/color]
>
>for a car weighing less than 270 pounds, no need to worry about areo.[/color]

You're missing the point. (No shock). A vehicle weighing more than
270 pounds can do zero->60 in less time than a vehicle weighing less
than 270 pounds if it is more areodynamic and has less drag.

Deny away. You'll be wrong.


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On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 01:48:53 GMT, Gord Beaman <gord@islandtelecom.com>
wrote:
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>Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
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>>On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:15:33 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>><nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>>news:e7ff1f$79m$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>>>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:06:26 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>>>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>><maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:1151021004.003629.92970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>>>>>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>>>>>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
>>>>>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
>>>>>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds
>>>>>
>>>>>0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less than
>>>>>270 pounds (with driver).
>>>>>LAW OF PHYSICS, DA -
>>>>
>>>> Uh, wouldn't that depend on factors you've not listed?
>>>
>>>Nope, anybody that races cars know that, it is a simple relationship, all
>>>you need is HP, weight of car, and the zero to 60 time. Google for it.[/color]
>>
>>Ah, so someone should tell drag racers and nascar drivers that drag
>>has nothing to do with speed. Worrying about areodynamics is
>>un-necessary. Heh. Riiiiiiight.[/color]
>
> Wouldn't the drag factor be derived from the 0 to 60 time?...[/color]

A car with more drag, would need more horsepower to make zero->60 in
10 seconds than a similar weighted car with less drag.

An example of bad areodynamics making a difference would be two cars
on the track, one having been in an accident that smashed in the front
end. Both cars still weigh the same, both cars still have the same
horspower. The car with the better areodynamics (not smashed) would
do zero-60 in less time than the car with more drag (smashed).

The only thing the Faruq got right were the words "laws of physics".


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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:46:04 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
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>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:38:03 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>>news:e7ffgf$79m$2@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>>>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:15:33 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>>>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:e7ff1f$79m$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:06:26 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>>>>>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:1151021004.003629.92970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>>>>>>>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>>>>>>>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic.
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a
>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less
>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>270 pounds (with driver).
>>>>>>>LAW OF PHYSICS, DA -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Uh, wouldn't that depend on factors you've not listed?
>>>>>
>>>>>Nope, anybody that races cars know that, it is a simple relationship,
>>>>>all
>>>>>you need is HP, weight of car, and the zero to 60 time. Google for it.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, so someone should tell drag racers and nascar drivers that drag
>>>> has nothing to do with speed. Worrying about areodynamics is
>>>> un-necessary. Heh. Riiiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>
>>>for a car weighing less than 270 pounds, no need to worry about areo.[/color]
>>
>> You're missing the point. (No shock). A vehicle weighing more than
>> 270 pounds can do zero->60 in less time than a vehicle weighing less
>> than 270 pounds if it is more areodynamic and has less drag.
>>
>> Deny away. You'll be wrong.
>>[/color]
>
>how much more?[/color]

Doesn't matter. Your statement is inaccurate because you weren't
considering all of the factors required to surmise the answer.

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"157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds.... anticipated $13,000
price tag

[url]http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/02/loremo_ag_157_m.php[/url]

It's built in Germany - a place that is about 1,000 years ahead of the
world bully, the USA It's a clear indication of what could be done
in the USA if the politicians and major automakers weren't so rotten,
and if our highest paid engineers weren't busy looking for new ways to
kill people so we can take their oil.

On 22 Jun 2006 17:03:24 -0700, [email]maxhemust@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
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>It's built in Germany - a place that is about 1,000 years ahead of the
>world bully, the USA[/color]

awwwwwww

Did we flush out another baby liberal?

Yes, I agree, Germany is a wonderful place now that the
Nazis are gone (as of 1945). They sure did give Germany
a black eye.

Now if we in the U.S.A. could imprison war-starting politicians
who lie to start their wars, we'd have a much nicer place too.

Oh well, human evolution takes time.

<maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1151021004.003629.92970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds[/color]

0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less than
270 pounds (with driver).
LAW OF PHYSICS, DA

"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
news:e7ff1f$79m$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:06:26 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>><maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:1151021004.003629.92970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
>>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
>>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds[/color]
>>
>>0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less than
>>270 pounds (with driver).
>>LAW OF PHYSICS, DA -[/color]
>
> Uh, wouldn't that depend on factors you've not listed?[/color]

Nope, anybody that races cars know that, it is a simple relationship, all
you need is HP, weight of car, and the zero to 60 time. Google for it.

"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:15:33 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>news:e7ff1f$79m$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:06:26 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>><maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1151021004.003629.92970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>>>>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>>>>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
>>>>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
>>>>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds
>>>>
>>>>0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less
>>>>than
>>>>270 pounds (with driver).
>>>>LAW OF PHYSICS, DA -
>>>
>>> Uh, wouldn't that depend on factors you've not listed?[/color]
>>
>>Nope, anybody that races cars know that, it is a simple relationship, all
>>you need is HP, weight of car, and the zero to 60 time. Google for it.[/color]
>
> Ah, so someone should tell drag racers and nascar drivers that drag
> has nothing to do with speed. Worrying about areodynamics is
> un-necessary. Heh. Riiiiiiight.
>[/color]

for a car weighing less than 270 pounds, no need to worry about areo.

"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:38:03 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>news:e7ffgf$79m$2@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:15:33 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:e7ff1f$79m$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:06:26 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>>>>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>><maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:1151021004.003629.92970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>>>>>>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>>>>>>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic.
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a
>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less
>>>>>>than
>>>>>>270 pounds (with driver).
>>>>>>LAW OF PHYSICS, DA -
>>>>>
>>>>> Uh, wouldn't that depend on factors you've not listed?
>>>>
>>>>Nope, anybody that races cars know that, it is a simple relationship,
>>>>all
>>>>you need is HP, weight of car, and the zero to 60 time. Google for it.
>>>
>>> Ah, so someone should tell drag racers and nascar drivers that drag
>>> has nothing to do with speed. Worrying about areodynamics is
>>> un-necessary. Heh. Riiiiiiight.
>>>[/color]
>>
>>for a car weighing less than 270 pounds, no need to worry about areo.[/color]
>
> You're missing the point. (No shock). A vehicle weighing more than
> 270 pounds can do zero->60 in less time than a vehicle weighing less
> than 270 pounds if it is more areodynamic and has less drag.
>
> Deny away. You'll be wrong.
>[/color]

how much more? in terms of the 0 to 60 time ?

Gary L. Burnore <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
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>On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:15:33 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
><nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>news:e7ff1f$79m$1@blackhelicopter.databasix.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:06:26 -0500, "Faruq Qutaybah"
>>> <nospam@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>><maxhemust@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:1151021004.003629.92970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>>>>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>>>>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
>>>>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
>>>>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds
>>>>
>>>>0 to 60 in ten seconds with 20 hp requires the vehicle to weigh less than
>>>>270 pounds (with driver).
>>>>LAW OF PHYSICS, DA -
>>>
>>> Uh, wouldn't that depend on factors you've not listed?[/color]
>>
>>Nope, anybody that races cars know that, it is a simple relationship, all
>>you need is HP, weight of car, and the zero to 60 time. Google for it.[/color]
>
>Ah, so someone should tell drag racers and nascar drivers that drag
>has nothing to do with speed. Worrying about areodynamics is
>un-necessary. Heh. Riiiiiiight.[/color]

Wouldn't the drag factor be derived from the 0 to 60 time?...
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:03:24 -0700, maxhemust wrote:
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>
> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds.... anticipated $13,000
> price tag
>
> [url]http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/02/loremo_ag_157_m.php[/url]
>
> It's built in Germany - a place that is about 1,000 years ahead of the
> world bully, the USA It's a clear indication of what could be done
> in the USA if the politicians and major automakers weren't so rotten,
> and if our highest paid engineers weren't busy looking for new ways to
> kill people so we can take their oil.[/color]


Damn! What a mouthful!
You managed to take apost about a car and turn it into an
American-Bashing, self-serving political post! All without saying {Off
Topic} Anywhere at all!

The Germans, numnutz, are lightyears BEHIND us, if you have done any
reading at all you would see that Mercedesd Benz now falls below FORD for
Initial Quality surveys.

So, to you my firend, a hearty >PLONK!<.

But since I have three more system, I suppose I'll have to see this
dumb-ass post at least a couple more times.

Just like where I live, the Froot Loops float to the top...

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.GTS> wrote in message
news:PUHmg.4288$AC6.1587@trndny08...[color=blue]
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:03:24 -0700, maxhemust wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "157 mpg with no fancy hybrid drive train, fuel cells, or plug in
>> paraphernalia. Weighing less than a thousand pounds, the sporty
>> rear-wheel drive 4-seater is designed to be maximally aerodynamic. the
>> Loremo sports a modest 2-cylinder, 20 hp turbo diesel motor, has a top
>> speed of 100 mph, and does 0-60 in ten seconds.... anticipated $13,000
>> price tag
>>
>> [url]http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/02/loremo_ag_157_m.php[/url]
>>
>> It's built in Germany - a place that is about 1,000 years ahead of the
>> world bully, the USA It's a clear indication of what could be done
>> in the USA if the politicians and major automakers weren't so rotten,
>> and if our highest paid engineers weren't busy looking for new ways to
>> kill people so we can take their oil.[/color]
>
>
> Damn! What a mouthful!
> You managed to take apost about a car and turn it into an
> American-Bashing, self-serving political post! All without saying {Off
> Topic} Anywhere at all!
>
> The Germans, numnutz, are lightyears BEHIND us, if you have done any
> reading at all you would see that Mercedesd Benz now falls below FORD for
> Initial Quality surveys.
>
> So, to you my firend, a hearty >PLONK!<.
>
> But since I have three more system, I suppose I'll have to see this
> dumb-ass post at least a couple more times.
>
> Just like where I live, the Froot Loops float to the top...[/color]

I thought the Froot Loops were on the Left Coast? Near that infamous
university in Berkley?