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#1 Old 07-09-2006, 09:33 PM
Richard
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Pulls to the Right under acceleration

I have a '82 Camry with 206K miles on it. Been a good car except that
a couple of months ago it started pulling to the right a lot. I have
new tires, balanced and had the front end aligned and it still pulls to
the right. I normally do all my own mechanic work, but haven't done
any on this car, yet. A friend of mine said my problem might be a bent
tie rod. Does this sound plausable? Any ideas/help would be
appreciated.
Richard

 
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#2 Old 07-09-2006, 10:36 PM
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"Richard" <rbokmar@ipinc.net> wrote in message
news:1152498807.458827.323800@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>I have a '82 Camry with 206K miles on it. Been a good car except that
> a couple of months ago it started pulling to the right a lot. I have
> new tires, balanced and had the front end aligned and it still pulls to
> the right. I normally do all my own mechanic work, but haven't done
> any on this car, yet. A friend of mine said my problem might be a bent
> tie rod. Does this sound plausable? Any ideas/help would be
> appreciated.
> Richard
>[/color]

How many new tires do you have? What are the tire pressures on each of the
tires? Did you have a front end alignment or a 4 wheel alignment that
includes thrust angle measurement and adjustment? If you had just the front
end alignment, go back for a 4 wheel alignment. A bent tie rod should have
been caught during the alignment. How are the brakes working? Does the car
pull to the right when braking? Have you checked the wheel bearings?
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Ray O
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#3 Old 07-10-2006, 07:22 AM
Stewart DIBBS
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Re: Pulls to the Right under acceleration

"Richard" <rbokmar@ipinc.net> wrote in message
news:1152498807.458827.323800@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>I have a '82 Camry with 206K miles on it. Been a good car except that
> a couple of months ago it started pulling to the right a lot. I have
> new tires, balanced and had the front end aligned and it still pulls to
> the right.[/color]

Inner CV joint is binding under acceleration load. But you'll find some
rotational slop in the inner CV.

Could also be the strut insulator bearing is jamming the strut when you
turn. Does the steering want to stay in a offset position, or is there an
occasional creak or snapping sound from a strut?

sjd


 
#4 Old 07-10-2006, 08:00 AM
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Re: Pulls to the Right under acceleration

You said in your Subject Line that it pulls under acceleration. You do not
mention acceleration at all in your post.

If it pulls UNDER ACCELERATION, then this is called Torque Steer, and comes
from the transmission. It could be a motor mount, but probably not. In any
case, none of the things you've done so far comes close to what is needed to
solve torque steer.




"Richard" <rbokmar@ipinc.net> wrote in message
news:1152498807.458827.323800@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>I have a '82 Camry with 206K miles on it. Been a good car except that
> a couple of months ago it started pulling to the right a lot. I have
> new tires, balanced and had the front end aligned and it still pulls to
> the right. I normally do all my own mechanic work, but haven't done
> any on this car, yet. A friend of mine said my problem might be a bent
> tie rod. Does this sound plausable? Any ideas/help would be
> appreciated.
> Richard
>[/color]

 
#5 Old 07-10-2006, 10:53 AM
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"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You said in your Subject Line that it pulls under acceleration. You do not
> mention acceleration at all in your post.
>
> If it pulls UNDER ACCELERATION, then this is called Torque Steer, and
> comes from the transmission. It could be a motor mount, but probably not.
> In any case, none of the things you've done so far comes close to what is
> needed to solve torque steer.
>[/color]
"Torque steer" does not come from the transmission or from bad motor or
transmission mounts. A bad motor or transmission mount will have different
symptoms, but torque steer and pulling to one side is not one of them, and
torque steer will not appear in a vehicle that was not experiencing it
previously. Torque steer is the result of differing amounts of torque
delivered to the left and right wheels. The differential on most front
wheel drive vehicles is not in the center of the vehicle so the driveshafts
on the left and right side are not equal length. The Camry has a an
intermediate driveshaft on the right side to reduce the effects of torque
steer.
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#6 Old 07-10-2006, 03:53 PM
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>>[color=blue]
> "Torque steer" does not come from the transmission or from bad motor or
> transmission mounts. A bad motor or transmission mount will have
> different symptoms, but torque steer and pulling to one side is not one of
> them, and torque steer will not appear in a vehicle that was not
> experiencing it previously. Torque steer is the result of differing
> amounts of torque delivered to the left and right wheels. The
> differential on most front wheel drive vehicles is not in the center of
> the vehicle so the driveshafts on the left and right side are not equal
> length. The Camry has a an intermediate driveshaft on the right side to
> reduce the effects of torque steer.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]

yeah ok...that's why when I switched to solid motor mounts on my turbo pt
cruiser, the torque steer was reduced by at-least 50%


 
#7 Old 07-10-2006, 04:41 PM
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Punch wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
>> "Torque steer" does not come from the transmission or from bad motor
>> or transmission mounts. A bad motor or transmission mount will have
>> different symptoms, but torque steer and pulling to one side is not
>> one of them, and torque steer will not appear in a vehicle that was
>> not experiencing it previously. Torque steer is the result of
>> differing amounts of torque delivered to the left and right wheels. The
>> differential on most front wheel drive vehicles is not in the
>> center of the vehicle so the driveshafts on the left and right side
>> are not equal length. The Camry has a an intermediate driveshaft on
>> the right side to reduce the effects of torque steer.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
>
> yeah ok...that's why when I switched to solid motor mounts on my
> turbo pt cruiser, the torque steer was reduced by at-least 50%[/color]

Well, if you've got the whole damn transaxle trying to rotate in either
plane (likely on a pt), it might feel something like torque-steer but that's
not the topic of this conversation. Think about it.


 
#8 Old 07-10-2006, 05:21 PM
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"Punch" <crash2000@spamfree.rogers.com> wrote in message
news:e8ub0u$924$1@nntp.aioe.org...[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>[/color]
>> "Torque steer" does not come from the transmission or from bad motor or
>> transmission mounts. A bad motor or transmission mount will have
>> different symptoms, but torque steer and pulling to one side is not one
>> of them, and torque steer will not appear in a vehicle that was not
>> experiencing it previously. Torque steer is the result of differing
>> amounts of torque delivered to the left and right wheels. The
>> differential on most front wheel drive vehicles is not in the center of
>> the vehicle so the driveshafts on the left and right side are not equal
>> length. The Camry has a an intermediate driveshaft on the right side to
>> reduce the effects of torque steer.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]
>
> yeah ok...that's why when I switched to solid motor mounts on my turbo pt
> cruiser, the torque steer was reduced by at-least 50%
>[/color]

My post was not very clear. I should have said that bad motor or
transmission mounts in a 1982 Camry will not cause torque steer and that
torque steer is not a condition that I have ever heard of in a 1982 Camry.
My point was that the OP was probably not experiencing torque steer, and the
cause of the pull was something other than torque steer.


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Ray O
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#9 Old 07-11-2006, 02:00 PM
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Jeff Strickland wrote:[color=blue]
> You said in your Subject Line that it pulls under acceleration. You do not
> mention acceleration at all in your post.
>
> If it pulls UNDER ACCELERATION, then this is called Torque Steer, and comes
> from the transmission. It could be a motor mount, but probably not. In any
> case, none of the things you've done so far comes close to what is needed to
> solve torque steer.[/color]

Not necessarily. Torque steer is due to uneven length halfshafts, the
longer "winds-up" more than the shorter one and applies uneven wheel
speeds, nothing to do with motor/box mounts. And wont just come out of
the blue, its found on high torque FWD cars. And its not the only cause
of pulling on acceleration. You could be looking at any number of
suspension bushes being worn and allowing excessive play. Incidentally
worn box/engine mounts are highly unlikely to cause a torque-steer-like
effect.

J

 
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