Tire troubles..

Hello,

I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why until
Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been driving all
this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad ball joints..
Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front end.. But they
flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a $500 dollar tire
bill to deal with!

No more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!

PC

Sucks to be you. Everybody has that problem, ball joints eating tires I
mean.




"Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net> wrote in message
news:44ba78fa$0$3653$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why
> until Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been
> driving all this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad
> ball joints.. Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front
> end.. But they flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a
> $500 dollar tire bill to deal with!
>
> No more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
> PC
>
>
>[/color]

"Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net> wrote in message
news:44ba78fa$0$3653$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why
> until Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been
> driving all this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad
> ball joints.. Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front
> end.. But they flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a
> $500 dollar tire bill to deal with!
>
> No more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
> PC[/color]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This seems more than slightly ridiculous to me. If the proximate cause of
the tire wear was due to faulty ball jounts, then why shouldn't Toyota pay
for not only the ball joint replacement, but also pay for your tires, which
were in effect DAMAGED by their faulty product? Geez!

"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:12bl0c296crspf5@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net> wrote in message
> news:44ba78fa$0$3653$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...[color=green]
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why
>> until Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been
>> driving all this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad
>> ball joints.. Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the
>> front end.. But they flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I
>> have a $500 dollar tire bill to deal with!
>>
>> No more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>>
>> PC[/color]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> This seems more than slightly ridiculous to me. If the proximate cause of
> the tire wear was due to faulty ball jounts, then why shouldn't Toyota pay
> for not only the ball joint replacement, but also pay for your tires,
> which were in effect DAMAGED by their faulty product? Geez!
>[/color]

Yeah, it's so ridiculous that it makes me want to know what the WHOLE story
is...

"Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net> wrote in message
news:44ba78fa$0$3653$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why
> until Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been
> driving all this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad
> ball joints.. Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front
> end.. But they flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a
> $500 dollar tire bill to deal with!
>
> No more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
> PC
>[/color]

If the inner and outer tread of the tires were worn out, then the cause was
probably not due to bad ball joints. A review of the recall notice does not
mention premature tire wear as a consequence of the bad ball joints. The
alignment is a customary part of replacing ball joints, not a consequence
of bad ball joints.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:36:07 -0400, "Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Hello,
>
>I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why until
>Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been driving all
>this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad ball joints..
>Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front end.. But they
>flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a $500 dollar tire
>bill to deal with![/color]

If the dealer won't pay for the tires, you need to take it to the next
level, probably the district manager. Keep working your way up until
the pay for the tires. You can also contact your consumer protection
department.

Ditto what ray said. The apparent problem with a select number of ball
joints was a scratch on the ball portion that could lead to seizing down
the road. The recall was not issued for freeplay in the joint, and
therefore would not affect tire wear.

"Andy" <wisynoil@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:h46lb25ua8nlshvjl876mi28vaojvr7r4j@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:36:07 -0400, "Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why
>>until
>>Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been driving
>>all
>>this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad ball
>>joints..
>>Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front end.. But
>>they
>>flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a $500 dollar tire
>>bill to deal with![/color]
>
> If the dealer won't pay for the tires, you need to take it to the next
> level, probably the district manager. Keep working your way up until
> the pay for the tires. You can also contact your consumer protection
> department.[/color]

Just make sure you have documentation that links the ball joint issue to the
premature tire wear.

"Truckdude" <notmyemail@cox.net> wrote in message
news:%exug.5327$Ss2.1634@trnddc01...[color=blue]
>
> "Andy" <wisynoil@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:h46lb25ua8nlshvjl876mi28vaojvr7r4j@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:36:07 -0400, "Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why
>>>until
>>>Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been driving
>>>all
>>>this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad ball
>>>joints..
>>>Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front end.. But
>>>they
>>>flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a $500 dollar
>>>tire
>>>bill to deal with![/color]
>>
>> If the dealer won't pay for the tires, you need to take it to the next
>> level, probably the district manager. Keep working your way up until
>> the pay for the tires. You can also contact your consumer protection
>> department.[/color]
>
> Just make sure you have documentation that links the ball joint issue to
> the premature tire wear.[/color]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Right. This is an issue that, because of the cost and aggravation
involved, should be taken to Toyota management....in other words, don't let
the dealer blow you off. If you dig in your heels, it's likely that
they'll finally relent and replace your tires....just keep remembering that
it's THEIR fault!

This would be all I would need to turn me into a Honda Owner...


"Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net> wrote in message
news:44ba78fa$0$3653$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...[color=blue]
> Hello,
>
> I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why
> until Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been
> driving all this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad
> ball joints.. Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front
> end.. But they flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a
> $500 dollar tire bill to deal with!
>
> No more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>
> PC
>
>
>[/color]

"Andy" <wisynoil@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:h46lb25ua8nlshvjl876mi28vaojvr7r4j@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:36:07 -0400, "Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why
>>until
>>Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been driving
>>all
>>this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad ball
>>joints..
>>Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front end.. But
>>they
>>flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a $500 dollar tire
>>bill to deal with![/color]
>
> If the dealer won't pay for the tires, you need to take it to the next
> level, probably the district manager. Keep working your way up until
> the pay for the tires. You can also contact your consumer protection
> department.[/color]

The district manager does not have any authority over non-warrantable
expenses.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:30:42 -0600, "Wayne Brown"
<brownwayne77@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>This would be all I would need to turn me into a Honda Owner...
>
>
>"Paul" <britania@All2Easy.net> wrote in message
>news:44ba78fa$0$3653$822641b3@news.adtechcomputers.com...[color=green]
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have a Toyota Tundra... Tires wore out in 11k miles! Didn't know why
>> until Toyota sent a recall for replacing bad ball joints! I have been
>> driving all this time with the front end alignment bad.... Due to the bad
>> ball joints.. Well Toyota replaced the ball joints and realigned the front
>> end.. But they flat out refused to help me with the tires.. Now I have a
>> $500 dollar tire bill to deal with!
>>
>> No more Toyota vehicles for me! Case closed!
>>
>> PC
>>
>>
>>[/color]
>[/color]

This is a candidate for a posting on
[url]http://www.ripoffreport.com/[/url]

Every business should fear it.
Best of luck
j

Bring back any fond memories, Ray? :)

"qslim" <Suckers@suckersdotcom> wrote in message
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> Bring back any fond memories, Ray? :)
>[/color]

Yup, kinda missing the company car and hanging out in the shop.

I went to my son's college orientation last week, and the parents were given
the option of spending a night in a dorm. Since I commuted to school, I
have never spent a night in a dorm room so I thought it might be kind of
fun. My "room mate" was a guy that used to twist wrenches on Olds,
Chryslers, and Fords, then came down with lupus and moved over to service
advisor and warranty administrator. So, we spend a couple of hours telling
war stories about problem cars, irate customers, and factory reps who can't
fix cars or get warranty claims paid.

I'm missing the smell of brake cleaner in the morning!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"qslim" <Suckers@suckersdotcom> wrote in message
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> Bring back any fond memories, Ray? :)
>[/color]

Funny system. You guys have to deal with unreasonable customers who just
don't get it, while we have to worry about someone talking our wives into
having the muffler fluid changed.