Ping Ray - the sequel

Lately, my Echo has been making a wumpa-wumpa sound at higher speeds. I
thought it might have been the one tire that I know is bent (They said it
didn't need immediate replacement), but it seems to be getting louder.
Could it be the compressor, since my A/C is on full blast most of the time?
Or is it probably something costly. That 2000 car still has its original
exhaust system, so I thought that might be it as well. Toyotas are great,
but their exhaust often sucks. Gas mileage is still pretty damned good (31
mpg city despite the full speed A/C).

Your thoughts?

:-)

Natalie, bracing herself.

--




"Wicked little doll, you are not human
Wicked little doll, you have no soul"
(David Byrne, 1997)

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Lately, my Echo has been making a wumpa-wumpa sound at higher speeds. I
> thought it might have been the one tire that I know is bent (They said it
> didn't need immediate replacement), but it seems to be getting louder.
> Could it be the compressor, since my A/C is on full blast most of the
> time? Or is it probably something costly. That 2000 car still has its
> original exhaust system, so I thought that might be it as well. Toyotas
> are great, but their exhaust often sucks. Gas mileage is still pretty
> damned good (31 mpg city despite the full speed A/C).
>
> Your thoughts?
>
> :-)
>
> Natalie, bracing herself.
>[/color]

Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source, but cars
generally make wumpa-wumpa sounds for several. Possible causes are a broken
belt in a tire, bent wheel, bad wheel bearing, bad constant velocity (CV)
joint. The sound will always be related to vehicle speed rather than engine
speed if one of those are the cause. If the wumpa-wumpa sound is coming
from the car while it is sitting still, check the back seat.

Check the tire for any unusual lumps or bulges because a blow that is hard
enough to bend the wheel can easily breaks an internal belt in the tire. If
the sound is getting louder, the internal tire damage may be getting worse
and is very dangerous because it can blow out. A broken belt is often but
not always detectable visually. The easiest way to check whether the tire
or the wheel is the cause of the sound is to mount the spare and see if it
goes away.

Whatever bent the tire could also have bent the tie rod that connects the
steering rack to the front wheels, bent a control arm, damaged the axle or
CV joint.

An failing AC compressor will generally make a whining and groaning sound,
not a wumpa-wumpa sound (ducking for the fwap), and using the AC tends to
prolong its life rather than shorten it because the oil that is mixed with
the refrigerant keeps things lubed better and keeps seals from drying out.

A failing exhaust system just sounds loud and the sound is related to engine
speed, not vehicle speed.

So, bottom line, try the spare and see if it goes away. If it does, do not
re-mount the bad tire/wheel until you can get a replacement.

Good luck!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eatmrb.3o.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=green]
>> Lately, my Echo has been making a wumpa-wumpa sound at higher speeds. I
>> thought it might have been the one tire that I know is bent (They said it
>> didn't need immediate replacement), but it seems to be getting louder.
>> Could it be the compressor, since my A/C is on full blast most of the
>> time? Or is it probably something costly. That 2000 car still has its
>> original exhaust system, so I thought that might be it as well. Toyotas
>> are great, but their exhaust often sucks. Gas mileage is still pretty
>> damned good (31 mpg city despite the full speed A/C).
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> Natalie, bracing herself.
>>[/color]
>
> Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source, but
> cars generally make wumpa-wumpa sounds for several. Possible causes are a
> broken belt in a tire, bent wheel, bad wheel bearing, bad constant
> velocity (CV) joint. The sound will always be related to vehicle speed
> rather than engine speed if one of those are the cause. If the
> wumpa-wumpa sound is coming from the car while it is sitting still, check
> the back seat.
>
> Check the tire for any unusual lumps or bulges because a blow that is hard
> enough to bend the wheel can easily breaks an internal belt in the tire.
> If the sound is getting louder, the internal tire damage may be getting
> worse and is very dangerous because it can blow out. A broken belt is
> often but not always detectable visually. The easiest way to check
> whether the tire or the wheel is the cause of the sound is to mount the
> spare and see if it goes away.
>
> Whatever bent the tire could also have bent the tie rod that connects the
> steering rack to the front wheels, bent a control arm, damaged the axle or
> CV joint.
>
> An failing AC compressor will generally make a whining and groaning sound,
> not a wumpa-wumpa sound (ducking for the fwap), and using the AC tends to
> prolong its life rather than shorten it because the oil that is mixed with
> the refrigerant keeps things lubed better and keeps seals from drying out.
>
> A failing exhaust system just sounds loud and the sound is related to
> engine speed, not vehicle speed.
>
> So, bottom line, try the spare and see if it goes away. If it does, do
> not re-mount the bad tire/wheel until you can get a replacement.
>
> Good luck!
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[/color]

Ah, thanks!

I'll take it in tomorrow - you've effectively scared the crap outta me...

Natalie

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:eatmrb.3o.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=darkred]
>>> Lately, my Echo has been making a wumpa-wumpa sound at higher speeds. I
>>> thought it might have been the one tire that I know is bent (They said
>>> it didn't need immediate replacement), but it seems to be getting
>>> louder. Could it be the compressor, since my A/C is on full blast most
>>> of the time? Or is it probably something costly. That 2000 car still
>>> has its original exhaust system, so I thought that might be it as well.
>>> Toyotas are great, but their exhaust often sucks. Gas mileage is still
>>> pretty damned good (31 mpg city despite the full speed A/C).
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> Natalie, bracing herself.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source, but
>> cars generally make wumpa-wumpa sounds for several. Possible causes are
>> a broken belt in a tire, bent wheel, bad wheel bearing, bad constant
>> velocity (CV) joint. The sound will always be related to vehicle speed
>> rather than engine speed if one of those are the cause. If the
>> wumpa-wumpa sound is coming from the car while it is sitting still, check
>> the back seat.
>>
>> Check the tire for any unusual lumps or bulges because a blow that is
>> hard enough to bend the wheel can easily breaks an internal belt in the
>> tire. If the sound is getting louder, the internal tire damage may be
>> getting worse and is very dangerous because it can blow out. A broken
>> belt is often but not always detectable visually. The easiest way to
>> check whether the tire or the wheel is the cause of the sound is to mount
>> the spare and see if it goes away.
>>
>> Whatever bent the tire could also have bent the tie rod that connects the
>> steering rack to the front wheels, bent a control arm, damaged the axle
>> or CV joint.
>>
>> An failing AC compressor will generally make a whining and groaning
>> sound, not a wumpa-wumpa sound (ducking for the fwap), and using the AC
>> tends to prolong its life rather than shorten it because the oil that is
>> mixed with the refrigerant keeps things lubed better and keeps seals from
>> drying out.
>>
>> A failing exhaust system just sounds loud and the sound is related to
>> engine speed, not vehicle speed.
>>
>> So, bottom line, try the spare and see if it goes away. If it does, do
>> not re-mount the bad tire/wheel until you can get a replacement.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>[/color]
>
> Ah, thanks!
>
> I'll take it in tomorrow - you've effectively scared the crap outta me...
>
> Natalie[/color]

Also, look for uneven or unusual tire wear because the car probably needs an
alignment after the wheel strike.

Good luck!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eauou7.3k4.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Lately, my Echo has been making a wumpa-wumpa sound at higher speeds.
>>>> I thought it might have been the one tire that I know is bent (They
>>>> said it didn't need immediate replacement), but it seems to be getting
>>>> louder. Could it be the compressor, since my A/C is on full blast most
>>>> of the time? Or is it probably something costly. That 2000 car still
>>>> has its original exhaust system, so I thought that might be it as well.
>>>> Toyotas are great, but their exhaust often sucks. Gas mileage is still
>>>> pretty damned good (31 mpg city despite the full speed A/C).
>>>>
>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Natalie, bracing herself.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source, but
>>> cars generally make wumpa-wumpa sounds for several. Possible causes are
>>> a broken belt in a tire, bent wheel, bad wheel bearing, bad constant
>>> velocity (CV) joint. The sound will always be related to vehicle speed
>>> rather than engine speed if one of those are the cause. If the
>>> wumpa-wumpa sound is coming from the car while it is sitting still,
>>> check the back seat.
>>>
>>> Check the tire for any unusual lumps or bulges because a blow that is
>>> hard enough to bend the wheel can easily breaks an internal belt in the
>>> tire. If the sound is getting louder, the internal tire damage may be
>>> getting worse and is very dangerous because it can blow out. A broken
>>> belt is often but not always detectable visually. The easiest way to
>>> check whether the tire or the wheel is the cause of the sound is to
>>> mount the spare and see if it goes away.
>>>
>>> Whatever bent the tire could also have bent the tie rod that connects
>>> the steering rack to the front wheels, bent a control arm, damaged the
>>> axle or CV joint.
>>>
>>> An failing AC compressor will generally make a whining and groaning
>>> sound, not a wumpa-wumpa sound (ducking for the fwap), and using the AC
>>> tends to prolong its life rather than shorten it because the oil that is
>>> mixed with the refrigerant keeps things lubed better and keeps seals
>>> from drying out.
>>>
>>> A failing exhaust system just sounds loud and the sound is related to
>>> engine speed, not vehicle speed.
>>>
>>> So, bottom line, try the spare and see if it goes away. If it does, do
>>> not re-mount the bad tire/wheel until you can get a replacement.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O[/color]
>> Ah, thanks!
>>
>> I'll take it in tomorrow - you've effectively scared the crap outta me...
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
> Also, look for uneven or unusual tire wear because the car probably needs
> an alignment after the wheel strike.
>
> Good luck!
> --[/color]

Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!

*sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...

Natalie

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:7f994$44d36f0a$44a4a10d$21968@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:eauou7.3k4.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=darkred]
>>>>> Lately, my Echo has been making a wumpa-wumpa sound at higher speeds.
>>>>> I thought it might have been the one tire that I know is bent (They
>>>>> said it didn't need immediate replacement), but it seems to be getting
>>>>> louder. Could it be the compressor, since my A/C is on full blast most
>>>>> of the time? Or is it probably something costly. That 2000 car still
>>>>> has its original exhaust system, so I thought that might be it as
>>>>> well. Toyotas are great, but their exhaust often sucks. Gas mileage
>>>>> is still pretty damned good (31 mpg city despite the full speed A/C).
>>>>>
>>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie, bracing herself.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source, but
>>>> cars generally make wumpa-wumpa sounds for several. Possible causes
>>>> are a broken belt in a tire, bent wheel, bad wheel bearing, bad
>>>> constant velocity (CV) joint. The sound will always be related to
>>>> vehicle speed rather than engine speed if one of those are the cause.
>>>> If the wumpa-wumpa sound is coming from the car while it is sitting
>>>> still, check the back seat.
>>>>
>>>> Check the tire for any unusual lumps or bulges because a blow that is
>>>> hard enough to bend the wheel can easily breaks an internal belt in the
>>>> tire. If the sound is getting louder, the internal tire damage may be
>>>> getting worse and is very dangerous because it can blow out. A broken
>>>> belt is often but not always detectable visually. The easiest way to
>>>> check whether the tire or the wheel is the cause of the sound is to
>>>> mount the spare and see if it goes away.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever bent the tire could also have bent the tie rod that connects
>>>> the steering rack to the front wheels, bent a control arm, damaged the
>>>> axle or CV joint.
>>>>
>>>> An failing AC compressor will generally make a whining and groaning
>>>> sound, not a wumpa-wumpa sound (ducking for the fwap), and using the AC
>>>> tends to prolong its life rather than shorten it because the oil that
>>>> is mixed with the refrigerant keeps things lubed better and keeps seals
>>>> from drying out.
>>>>
>>>> A failing exhaust system just sounds loud and the sound is related to
>>>> engine speed, not vehicle speed.
>>>>
>>>> So, bottom line, try the spare and see if it goes away. If it does, do
>>>> not re-mount the bad tire/wheel until you can get a replacement.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Ray O
>>> Ah, thanks!
>>>
>>> I'll take it in tomorrow - you've effectively scared the crap outta
>>> me...
>>>
>>> Natalie[/color]
>>
>> Also, look for uneven or unusual tire wear because the car probably needs
>> an alignment after the wheel strike.
>>
>> Good luck!
>> --[/color]
>
> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!
>
> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>
> Natalie
>[/color]

If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer, look
for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that can add
up.

That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps to
get the price down ;-)
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eavrhk.3ck.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>>> Lately, my Echo has been making a wumpa-wumpa sound at higher speeds.
>>>>>> I thought it might have been the one tire that I know is bent (They
>>>>>> said it didn't need immediate replacement), but it seems to be
>>>>>> getting louder. Could it be the compressor, since my A/C is on full
>>>>>> blast most of the time? Or is it probably something costly. That
>>>>>> 2000 car still has its original exhaust system, so I thought that
>>>>>> might be it as well. Toyotas are great, but their exhaust often
>>>>>> sucks. Gas mileage is still pretty damned good (31 mpg city despite
>>>>>> the full speed A/C).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Natalie, bracing herself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source,
>>>>> but cars generally make wumpa-wumpa sounds for several. Possible
>>>>> causes are a broken belt in a tire, bent wheel, bad wheel bearing, bad
>>>>> constant velocity (CV) joint. The sound will always be related to
>>>>> vehicle speed rather than engine speed if one of those are the cause.
>>>>> If the wumpa-wumpa sound is coming from the car while it is sitting
>>>>> still, check the back seat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Check the tire for any unusual lumps or bulges because a blow that is
>>>>> hard enough to bend the wheel can easily breaks an internal belt in
>>>>> the tire. If the sound is getting louder, the internal tire damage may
>>>>> be getting worse and is very dangerous because it can blow out. A
>>>>> broken belt is often but not always detectable visually. The easiest
>>>>> way to check whether the tire or the wheel is the cause of the sound
>>>>> is to mount the spare and see if it goes away.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whatever bent the tire could also have bent the tie rod that connects
>>>>> the steering rack to the front wheels, bent a control arm, damaged the
>>>>> axle or CV joint.
>>>>>
>>>>> An failing AC compressor will generally make a whining and groaning
>>>>> sound, not a wumpa-wumpa sound (ducking for the fwap), and using the
>>>>> AC tends to prolong its life rather than shorten it because the oil
>>>>> that is mixed with the refrigerant keeps things lubed better and keeps
>>>>> seals from drying out.
>>>>>
>>>>> A failing exhaust system just sounds loud and the sound is related to
>>>>> engine speed, not vehicle speed.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, bottom line, try the spare and see if it goes away. If it does,
>>>>> do not re-mount the bad tire/wheel until you can get a replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Ray O
>>>> Ah, thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I'll take it in tomorrow - you've effectively scared the crap outta
>>>> me...
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>
>>> Also, look for uneven or unusual tire wear because the car probably
>>> needs an alignment after the wheel strike.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>> --[/color]
>>
>> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!
>>
>> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>>
>> Natalie
>>[/color]
>
> If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer, look
> for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that can add
> up.
>
> That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps to
> get the price down ;-)
> --
>
> Ray O[/color]

They say it's all the bearings and something about 'pressure mount' - Greek
to me.

Bend over!

Natalie

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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[color=blue][color=green]
>> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500![color=darkred]
>>>
>>> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>>>
>>> Natalie
>>>[/color]
>>
>> If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer, look
>> for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that can add
>> up.
>>
>> That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps to
>> get the price down ;-)
>> --
>>
>> Ray O[/color]
>
> They say it's all the bearings and something about 'pressure mount' -
> Greek to me.
>
> Bend over!
>
> Natalie
>[/color]

The old bearings have to be pressed out of the hub and the new bearings have
to be pressed back in. As the name of the procedure implies, a press is
needed to do this, but using a press only takes a few minutes.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>
> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:eavui5.344.1@news.evilcabal.org...
> <snipped>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!
>>>>
>>>> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer,
>>> look for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that
>>> can add up.
>>>
>>> That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps
>>> to get the price down ;-)
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O[/color]
>>
>> They say it's all the bearings and something about 'pressure mount' -
>> Greek to me.
>>
>> Bend over!
>>
>> Natalie
>>[/color]
>
> The old bearings have to be pressed out of the hub and the new bearings
> have to be pressed back in. As the name of the procedure implies, a press
> is needed to do this, but using a press only takes a few minutes.
> --
>
> Ray O[/color]

I guess I looked pitiful enough for a lower price - not much...$450. Guy
asked, "How are you, Mrs. Larkowski?" I said, "Quite a bit poorer." He
then told me about the lower price. Big effing deal. I also had an oil
change.

*sigh*

Natalie

On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:01:56 -0400, Wickeddoll wrote:
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:1f798$44d3acf8$44a4a10d$23690@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:eavrhk.3ck.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>>>>> Lately, my Echo has been making a wumpa-wumpa sound at higher speeds.
>>>>>>> I thought it might have been the one tire that I know is bent (They
>>>>>>> said it didn't need immediate replacement), but it seems to be
>>>>>>> getting louder. Could it be the compressor, since my A/C is on full
>>>>>>> blast most of the time? Or is it probably something costly. That
>>>>>>> 2000 car still has its original exhaust system, so I thought that
>>>>>>> might be it as well. Toyotas are great, but their exhaust often
>>>>>>> sucks. Gas mileage is still pretty damned good (31 mpg city despite
>>>>>>> the full speed A/C).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Natalie, bracing herself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source,
>>>>>> but cars generally make wumpa-wumpa sounds for several. Possible
>>>>>> causes are a broken belt in a tire, bent wheel, bad wheel bearing, bad
>>>>>> constant velocity (CV) joint. The sound will always be related to
>>>>>> vehicle speed rather than engine speed if one of those are the cause.
>>>>>> If the wumpa-wumpa sound is coming from the car while it is sitting
>>>>>> still, check the back seat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Check the tire for any unusual lumps or bulges because a blow that is
>>>>>> hard enough to bend the wheel can easily breaks an internal belt in
>>>>>> the tire. If the sound is getting louder, the internal tire damage may
>>>>>> be getting worse and is very dangerous because it can blow out. A
>>>>>> broken belt is often but not always detectable visually. The easiest
>>>>>> way to check whether the tire or the wheel is the cause of the sound
>>>>>> is to mount the spare and see if it goes away.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatever bent the tire could also have bent the tie rod that connects
>>>>>> the steering rack to the front wheels, bent a control arm, damaged the
>>>>>> axle or CV joint.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An failing AC compressor will generally make a whining and groaning
>>>>>> sound, not a wumpa-wumpa sound (ducking for the fwap), and using the
>>>>>> AC tends to prolong its life rather than shorten it because the oil
>>>>>> that is mixed with the refrigerant keeps things lubed better and keeps
>>>>>> seals from drying out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A failing exhaust system just sounds loud and the sound is related to
>>>>>> engine speed, not vehicle speed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, bottom line, try the spare and see if it goes away. If it does,
>>>>>> do not re-mount the bad tire/wheel until you can get a replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ray O
>>>>> Ah, thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll take it in tomorrow - you've effectively scared the crap outta
>>>>> me...
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>> Also, look for uneven or unusual tire wear because the car probably
>>>> needs an alignment after the wheel strike.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>> --
>>>
>>> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!
>>>
>>> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>>>
>>> Natalie
>>>[/color]
>>
>> If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer, look
>> for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that can add
>> up.
>>
>> That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps to
>> get the price down ;-)
>> --
>>
>> Ray O[/color]
>
> They say it's all the bearings and something about 'pressure mount' - Greek
> to me.
>
> Bend over!
>
> Natalie[/color]

Just go in wearing that bikini top you WON'T show US!!!!

(running and ducking!!!) ;)

On Sat, 05 Aug 2006 12:40:29 -0400, Wickeddoll wrote:
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:eavui5.344.1@news.evilcabal.org...
>> <snipped>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!
>>>>>
>>>>> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer,
>>>> look for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that
>>>> can add up.
>>>>
>>>> That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps
>>>> to get the price down ;-)
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Ray O
>>>
>>> They say it's all the bearings and something about 'pressure mount' -
>>> Greek to me.
>>>
>>> Bend over!
>>>
>>> Natalie
>>>[/color]
>>
>> The old bearings have to be pressed out of the hub and the new bearings
>> have to be pressed back in. As the name of the procedure implies, a press
>> is needed to do this, but using a press only takes a few minutes.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O[/color]
>
> I guess I looked pitiful enough for a lower price - not much...$450. Guy
> asked, "How are you, Mrs. Larkowski?" I said, "Quite a bit poorer." He
> then told me about the lower price. Big effing deal. I also had an oil
> change.
>
> *sigh*
>
> Natalie[/color]


Shoulda worn that Bikini top!!!

(*fwap* shields UP!!!)

"Hachiroku" <Hachiroku_ae86@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.08.05.17.15.14.844000@ae86.gts...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 17:01:56 -0400, Wickeddoll wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
>> news:1f798$44d3acf8$44a4a10d$23690@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eavrhk.3ck.1@news.evilcabal.org...
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lately, my Echo has been making a wumpa-wumpa sound at higher
>>>>>>>> speeds.
>>>>>>>> I thought it might have been the one tire that I know is bent (They
>>>>>>>> said it didn't need immediate replacement), but it seems to be
>>>>>>>> getting louder. Could it be the compressor, since my A/C is on full
>>>>>>>> blast most of the time? Or is it probably something costly. That
>>>>>>>> 2000 car still has its original exhaust system, so I thought that
>>>>>>>> might be it as well. Toyotas are great, but their exhaust often
>>>>>>>> sucks. Gas mileage is still pretty damned good (31 mpg city
>>>>>>>> despite
>>>>>>>> the full speed A/C).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Natalie, bracing herself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without hearing the sound, it is difficult to determine the source,
>>>>>>> but cars generally make wumpa-wumpa sounds for several. Possible
>>>>>>> causes are a broken belt in a tire, bent wheel, bad wheel bearing,
>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>> constant velocity (CV) joint. The sound will always be related to
>>>>>>> vehicle speed rather than engine speed if one of those are the
>>>>>>> cause.
>>>>>>> If the wumpa-wumpa sound is coming from the car while it is sitting
>>>>>>> still, check the back seat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Check the tire for any unusual lumps or bulges because a blow that
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> hard enough to bend the wheel can easily breaks an internal belt in
>>>>>>> the tire. If the sound is getting louder, the internal tire damage
>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>> be getting worse and is very dangerous because it can blow out. A
>>>>>>> broken belt is often but not always detectable visually. The
>>>>>>> easiest
>>>>>>> way to check whether the tire or the wheel is the cause of the sound
>>>>>>> is to mount the spare and see if it goes away.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whatever bent the tire could also have bent the tie rod that
>>>>>>> connects
>>>>>>> the steering rack to the front wheels, bent a control arm, damaged
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> axle or CV joint.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An failing AC compressor will generally make a whining and groaning
>>>>>>> sound, not a wumpa-wumpa sound (ducking for the fwap), and using the
>>>>>>> AC tends to prolong its life rather than shorten it because the oil
>>>>>>> that is mixed with the refrigerant keeps things lubed better and
>>>>>>> keeps
>>>>>>> seals from drying out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A failing exhaust system just sounds loud and the sound is related
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> engine speed, not vehicle speed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, bottom line, try the spare and see if it goes away. If it does,
>>>>>>> do not re-mount the bad tire/wheel until you can get a replacement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ray O
>>>>>> Ah, thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'll take it in tomorrow - you've effectively scared the crap outta
>>>>>> me...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, look for uneven or unusual tire wear because the car probably
>>>>> needs an alignment after the wheel strike.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!
>>>>
>>>> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer,
>>> look
>>> for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that can
>>> add
>>> up.
>>>
>>> That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps
>>> to
>>> get the price down ;-)
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O[/color]
>>
>> They say it's all the bearings and something about 'pressure mount' -
>> Greek
>> to me.
>>
>> Bend over!
>>
>> Natalie[/color]
>
> Just go in wearing that bikini top you WON'T show US!!!!
>
> (running and ducking!!!) ;)
>
>[/color]
*fwap*

NOW you tell me...

Natalie

On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:08:28 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:eavui5.344.1@news.evilcabal.org...
><snipped>
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!
>>>>
>>>> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>>>>
>>>> Natalie
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer, look
>>> for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that can add
>>> up.
>>>
>>> That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps to
>>> get the price down ;-)
>>> --
>>>
>>> Ray O[/color]
>>
>> They say it's all the bearings and something about 'pressure mount' -
>> Greek to me.
>>
>> Bend over!
>>
>> Natalie
>>[/color]
>
>The old bearings have to be pressed out of the hub and the new bearings have
>to be pressed back in. As the name of the procedure implies, a press is
>needed to do this, but using a press only takes a few minutes.[/color]

I'm sure it won't make you feel any better....but imagine what the
bill would have been if you had had a Ford....and I bet that same bill
would re occur many times over in the life of the Ford.


--

Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free because of the Brave'

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
news:d7l9d2hbdtts078943r6n1eepvjnmkil5n@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 01:08:28 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:eavui5.344.1@news.evilcabal.org...
>><snipped>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!
>>>>>
>>>>> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer,
>>>> look
>>>> for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that can
>>>> add
>>>> up.
>>>>
>>>> That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps
>>>> to
>>>> get the price down ;-)
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Ray O
>>>
>>> They say it's all the bearings and something about 'pressure mount' -
>>> Greek to me.
>>>
>>> Bend over!
>>>
>>> Natalie
>>>[/color]
>>
>>The old bearings have to be pressed out of the hub and the new bearings
>>have
>>to be pressed back in. As the name of the procedure implies, a press is
>>needed to do this, but using a press only takes a few minutes.[/color]
>
> I'm sure it won't make you feel any better....but imagine what the
> bill would have been if you had had a Ford....and I bet that same bill
> would re occur many times over in the life of the Ford.
>
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida[/color]

Oh I think heaven every day for not having a GM...[color=blue]
>
> 'The Land of the Free because of the Brave'[/color]

Cool sig!

Natalie

"Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eb23k2.3es.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=blue]
>
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:771f7$44d43618$47e40e57$30629@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Wickeddoll" <wickeddoll1958noeffingspam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:eavui5.344.1@news.evilcabal.org...
>> <snipped>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> Bad bearings - need replacement at $500!
>>>>>
>>>>> *sigh* so much for the extra income from my second job...
>>>>>
>>>>> Natalie
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you get service department mailers from your local Toyota dealer,
>>>> look for a "customer's choice" xx% off any job. On a bigger job, that
>>>> can add up.
>>>>
>>>> That sounds a little high for wheel bearings, - crying sometimes helps
>>>> to get the price down ;-)
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Ray O
>>>
>>> They say it's all the bearings and something about 'pressure mount' -
>>> Greek to me.
>>>
>>> Bend over!
>>>
>>> Natalie
>>>[/color]
>>
>> The old bearings have to be pressed out of the hub and the new bearings
>> have to be pressed back in. As the name of the procedure implies, a
>> press is needed to do this, but using a press only takes a few minutes.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O[/color]
>
> I guess I looked pitiful enough for a lower price - not much...$450. Guy
> asked, "How are you, Mrs. Larkowski?" I said, "Quite a bit poorer." He
> then told me about the lower price. Big effing deal. I also had an oil
> change.
>
> *sigh*
>
> Natalie[/color]

Hey, 10% is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick, and the
wumpa-wumpa should be gone!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)