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Old 08-24-2006, 01:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Taking my old Camry to the Grand Canyon

Hi folks,

I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (been dreaming for a long time
about it) driving in my old trusty Camry 95. After 145000 miles of road
in 11 years I think it will still handle another 3000 + miles with
ease.
So I wonder if anyone of you, folks, ever took a similar trip in your
car in the direction of Grand Canyon and what was your experience.
Maybe you have some advice and tips to share.
I'm driving from Chicago through Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico and
Arizona. Planning to stop in Sedona before I get to the canyon. On my
way back I'll visit the Glen Dam, Monument Valley and head back home
trough Colorado and Nebraska.
I would appreciate a lot if you give me any advice concerning this trip
taking into account that I'm traveling alone, have never been in those
parts of the country (only midwest) and don't know what to expect along
the way. Also, I'd like to visit as many sights as possible along the
way, so maybe you could tell me what I should be looking for.
Thank you very much in advance for any help you could give me and your
time.

 
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Old 08-24-2006, 02:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"ortcloud" <feurio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1156441014.572742.254360@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (been dreaming for a long time
> about it) driving in my old trusty Camry 95. After 145000 miles of road
> in 11 years I think it will still handle another 3000 + miles with
> ease.
> So I wonder if anyone of you, folks, ever took a similar trip in your
> car in the direction of Grand Canyon and what was your experience.
> Maybe you have some advice and tips to share.
> I'm driving from Chicago through Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico and
> Arizona. Planning to stop in Sedona before I get to the canyon. On my
> way back I'll visit the Glen Dam, Monument Valley and head back home
> trough Colorado and Nebraska.
> I would appreciate a lot if you give me any advice concerning this trip
> taking into account that I'm traveling alone, have never been in those
> parts of the country (only midwest) and don't know what to expect along
> the way. Also, I'd like to visit as many sights as possible along the
> way, so maybe you could tell me what I should be looking for.
> Thank you very much in advance for any help you could give me and your
> time.
>[/color]

I have never been to the Grand Canyon ;-(. I would like to see the Glen
Canyon area, Canyonlands, cliff dwellings, etc.

From the "survival" side, always keep 1 or 2 gallons of drinkable water in
the car. If you do not have a sleeping bag, you may want to invest in one
with synthetic fill (goose down is lighter but will not keep you warm if it
gets wet) with a 20 degree rating in case you end up spending a night in
your car. You may want to invest in a wide-brimmed

Do the usual pre-trip checks on your car - oil change, check brake pads,
coolant change, check condition of radiator, transmission fluid change,
check condition of tires and tire inflation, etc.

Have a great trip!
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Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


 
Old 08-24-2006, 02:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"ortcloud" <feurio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
>
> I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (been dreaming for a long time
> about it) driving in my old trusty Camry 95. After 145000 miles of road
> in 11 years I think it will still handle another 3000 + miles with
> ease.[/color]

That and about 200K more miles so long as you have been taking care of your
car and continue to take care of it.


 
Old 08-24-2006, 02:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:05:45 -0500, "Ray O"
<rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"ortcloud" <feurio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:1156441014.572742.254360@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (been dreaming for a long time
>> about it) driving in my old trusty Camry 95. After 145000 miles of road
>> in 11 years I think it will still handle another 3000 + miles with
>> ease.
>> So I wonder if anyone of you, folks, ever took a similar trip in your
>> car in the direction of Grand Canyon and what was your experience.
>> Maybe you have some advice and tips to share.
>> I'm driving from Chicago through Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico and
>> Arizona. Planning to stop in Sedona before I get to the canyon. On my
>> way back I'll visit the Glen Dam, Monument Valley and head back home
>> trough Colorado and Nebraska.
>> I would appreciate a lot if you give me any advice concerning this trip
>> taking into account that I'm traveling alone, have never been in those
>> parts of the country (only midwest) and don't know what to expect along
>> the way. Also, I'd like to visit as many sights as possible along the
>> way, so maybe you could tell me what I should be looking for.
>> Thank you very much in advance for any help you could give me and your
>> time.
>>[/color]
>
>I have never been to the Grand Canyon ;-(. I would like to see the Glen
>Canyon area, Canyonlands, cliff dwellings, etc.
>
>From the "survival" side, always keep 1 or 2 gallons of drinkable water in
>the car. If you do not have a sleeping bag, you may want to invest in one
>with synthetic fill (goose down is lighter but will not keep you warm if it
>gets wet) with a 20 degree rating in case you end up spending a night in
>your car. You may want to invest in a wide-brimmed
>
>Do the usual pre-trip checks on your car - oil change, check brake pads,
>coolant change, check condition of radiator, transmission fluid change,
>check condition of tires and tire inflation, etc.
>
>Have a great trip![/color]


Two cans of fix-a-flat and inflator. Forget the bags (if you don't
have em) - just bring heavy coats or jackets - just in case. The Rim
does get cold at night.

j
 
Old 08-24-2006, 03:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"ortcloud" <feurio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1156441014.572742.254360@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (been dreaming for a long time
> about it) driving in my old trusty Camry 95. After 145000 miles of road
> in 11 years I think it will still handle another 3000 + miles with
> ease.
> So I wonder if anyone of you, folks, ever took a similar trip in your
> car in the direction of Grand Canyon and what was your experience.
> Maybe you have some advice and tips to share.
> I'm driving from Chicago through Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico and
> Arizona. Planning to stop in Sedona before I get to the canyon. On my
> way back I'll visit the Glen Dam, Monument Valley and head back home
> trough Colorado and Nebraska.
> I would appreciate a lot if you give me any advice concerning this trip
> taking into account that I'm traveling alone, have never been in those
> parts of the country (only midwest) and don't know what to expect along
> the way. Also, I'd like to visit as many sights as possible along the
> way, so maybe you could tell me what I should be looking for.
> Thank you very much in advance for any help you could give me and your
> time.
>[/color]

If you go across in I-40, it's easy enough to stop at Painted Desert and
Petrified Forest National Parks. You won't have to stop for long.

After the Grand Canyon, you might camp at Arches or Canyonlands National
Parks. We stayed at Island in the Sky at Canyonlands and the view from the
observation are near the campground is breathtaking. No water is available
there. Purchase it at the ranger station (10 or so miles down the road) or
bring it from elsehwere.

Along I-70 on your way back to Denver is a town called Glenwood, which has a
fine hot spring feeding a large system of swimming pools. On my next trip
there, I plan to pay the $5 and go swimming (got in too late to take
advantage on the previous trip).

There's a waiting list of a year or so to camp at the bottom of the Grand
Canyon. Campsites at the top of the Canyon on the South Rim can be hard to
come by, too. The little town to the south of the park has hotels that are
fairly expensive There is BLM land on which you can camp more or less
between that little town and the park entrance, if you can't find something
else. It's lousy camping on that BLM land but it's really cheap (or maybe
free, can't recall).



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Old 08-24-2006, 03:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:06:20 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>"ortcloud" <feurio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:1156441014.572742.254360@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (been dreaming for a long time
>> about it) driving in my old trusty Camry 95. After 145000 miles of road
>> in 11 years I think it will still handle another 3000 + miles with
>> ease.
>> So I wonder if anyone of you, folks, ever took a similar trip in your
>> car in the direction of Grand Canyon and what was your experience.
>> Maybe you have some advice and tips to share.
>> I'm driving from Chicago through Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico and
>> Arizona. Planning to stop in Sedona before I get to the canyon. On my
>> way back I'll visit the Glen Dam, Monument Valley and head back home
>> trough Colorado and Nebraska.
>> I would appreciate a lot if you give me any advice concerning this trip
>> taking into account that I'm traveling alone, have never been in those
>> parts of the country (only midwest) and don't know what to expect along
>> the way. Also, I'd like to visit as many sights as possible along the
>> way, so maybe you could tell me what I should be looking for.
>> Thank you very much in advance for any help you could give me and your
>> time.
>>[/color]
>
>If you go across in I-40, it's easy enough to stop at Painted Desert and
>Petrified Forest National Parks. You won't have to stop for long.
>
>After the Grand Canyon, you might camp at Arches or Canyonlands National
>Parks. We stayed at Island in the Sky at Canyonlands and the view from the
>observation are near the campground is breathtaking. No water is available
>there. Purchase it at the ranger station (10 or so miles down the road) or
>bring it from elsehwere.
>
>Along I-70 on your way back to Denver is a town called Glenwood, which has a
>fine hot spring feeding a large system of swimming pools. On my next trip
>there, I plan to pay the $5 and go swimming (got in too late to take
>advantage on the previous trip).
>
>There's a waiting list of a year or so to camp at the bottom of the Grand
>Canyon. Campsites at the top of the Canyon on the South Rim can be hard to
>come by, too. The little town to the south of the park has hotels that are
>fairly expensive There is BLM land on which you can camp more or less
>between that little town and the park entrance, if you can't find something
>else. It's lousy camping on that BLM land but it's really cheap (or maybe
>free, can't recall).[/color]


Don't forget to bring sacks of money.
The CYN is the ONLY source of income for AZ - or so it seems.
All parks should be free. <GRIN>

j
 
Old 08-24-2006, 03:23 PM   #7 (permalink)
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In article <1156441014.572742.254360@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
[email]feurio@sbcglobal.net[/email] "ortcloud" writes:
[color=blue]
> I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon [...][/color]

My info is a little old: from 1987. I approached the GC from the
south (I-40): quite a drive. Spent much of the afternoon at the
southern overlook near(ish) the east end, where they had loads of
info and sun-shelter. As it's a National Park, they didn't allow
commercial eateries and such. The last fast food joint was some
way south, before the Park boundary: eg, McDonald's (with a sign
apologising for high prices, due to having to haul everything in,
water included, further than usual).

I got chatting to a Park Ranger, who told me of a motel over in
Tuba City, not too far east (northeast?) of the GC. TC is a tiny
place inside the Navajo reserve. The motel was on the southern
edge and entirely NOT expected: for quality, it could have beaten
down most Best Westerns I have ever seen. The breakfast eatery
was good, too. I gathered it was a tribal business. On the way
(ie, between GC and TC) I passed a spot where dinosaur footprints
could be seen in rocks: one looked out for Navajo trinket stalls
nearby. <g>

As to survival: I try to take along a 2.5 gallonUS water plastic
carboy from which to refill 6 x 0.5-litre bottles I keep chilled
in a cooler (with ice -- whose meltwater you can drink if things
are getting desperate). Take a hat (with chin strap or risk the
wind blowing it away) with wide brim. Proper dark glasses. Sun
cream (FP30+). Map (I like the Michelin series which has the USA
in three sheets: accurate & manageable). I also take stuff like
compass, reflector, string, 10x25 binoculars... but maybe that's
just me. These days a mobile/cell-phone makes sense. Oh... and
have your car serviced before you go.
--
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Old 08-24-2006, 05:04 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"joe" <nonspam@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 14:06:20 -0500, "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"ortcloud" <feurio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>news:1156441014.572742.254360@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (been dreaming for a long time
>>> about it) driving in my old trusty Camry 95. After 145000 miles of road
>>> in 11 years I think it will still handle another 3000 + miles with
>>> ease.
>>> So I wonder if anyone of you, folks, ever took a similar trip in your
>>> car in the direction of Grand Canyon and what was your experience.
>>> Maybe you have some advice and tips to share.
>>> I'm driving from Chicago through Missouri, Oklahoma, New Mexico and
>>> Arizona. Planning to stop in Sedona before I get to the canyon. On my
>>> way back I'll visit the Glen Dam, Monument Valley and head back home
>>> trough Colorado and Nebraska.
>>> I would appreciate a lot if you give me any advice concerning this trip
>>> taking into account that I'm traveling alone, have never been in those
>>> parts of the country (only midwest) and don't know what to expect along
>>> the way. Also, I'd like to visit as many sights as possible along the
>>> way, so maybe you could tell me what I should be looking for.
>>> Thank you very much in advance for any help you could give me and your
>>> time.
>>>[/color]
>>
>>If you go across in I-40, it's easy enough to stop at Painted Desert and
>>Petrified Forest National Parks. You won't have to stop for long.
>>
>>After the Grand Canyon, you might camp at Arches or Canyonlands National
>>Parks. We stayed at Island in the Sky at Canyonlands and the view from
>>the
>>observation are near the campground is breathtaking. No water is
>>available
>>there. Purchase it at the ranger station (10 or so miles down the road)
>>or
>>bring it from elsehwere.
>>
>>Along I-70 on your way back to Denver is a town called Glenwood, which has
>>a
>>fine hot spring feeding a large system of swimming pools. On my next trip
>>there, I plan to pay the $5 and go swimming (got in too late to take
>>advantage on the previous trip).
>>
>>There's a waiting list of a year or so to camp at the bottom of the Grand
>>Canyon. Campsites at the top of the Canyon on the South Rim can be hard
>>to
>>come by, too. The little town to the south of the park has hotels that
>>are
>>fairly expensive There is BLM land on which you can camp more or less
>>between that little town and the park entrance, if you can't find
>>something
>>else. It's lousy camping on that BLM land but it's really cheap (or maybe
>>free, can't recall).[/color]
>
>
> Don't forget to bring sacks of money.
> The CYN is the ONLY source of income for AZ - or so it seems.
> All parks should be free. <GRIN>
>
> j[/color]

I don't recognize the CYN abbreviation. Would you translate?

Some things were a little spendy but not noticeably more so than other parts
of the West, where gas, food, etc, get hauled in from far away.



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Old 08-24-2006, 05:41 PM   #9 (permalink)
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>> Don't forget to bring sacks of money.
>> The CYN is the ONLY source of income for AZ - or so it seems.
>> All parks should be free. <GRIN>
>>
>> j[/color]
>
>I don't recognize the CYN abbreviation. Would you translate?
>
>Some things were a little spendy but not noticeably more so than other parts
>of the West, where gas, food, etc, get hauled in from far away.[/color]

Sorry

Canyon

[url]http://www.answers.com/topic/cyn-3[/url]

j
 
Old 08-24-2006, 07:36 PM   #10 (permalink)
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congrats on your proposed trip to Grand Canyon....take your woolies if it's
after the middle of October, because it can get mighty cold.
And while you're in the neighborhood, go out of your way and visit Bryce
Canyon Utah. Sure, it's not around the corner, but it's an unforgettable
sight, and you'll remember it all your life....and kick yourself if you have
to experience Bryce only thru pictures.
Speaking of pictures, be sure to take a digital camera and a big memory
card, and lots of batteries on your trip. Or if you don't have a large
memory card, unload it frequently at large stores that have printing
services. Better to have the big card(s).


 
Old 08-24-2006, 11:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
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ortcloud wrote:

Hi, ortcloud. I have been out to the grand canyon once in my life and
found it to be on hell of an experience. It was so breath taking and
just puts a person in shock. When i went i went with my mom and my
sister. We went on a tour through an indian reservation so they fed us
lunch and showed us the canyon. We also took a little four seater
plane over the grand canyon which was unblievable. it was so cool.

Hope this helps

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Old 08-25-2006, 01:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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"joe" <nonspam@invalid.com> wrote in message
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>[color=green][color=darkred]
> >> Don't forget to bring sacks of money.
> >> The CYN is the ONLY source of income for AZ - or so it seems.
> >> All parks should be free. <GRIN>
> >>
> >> j[/color]
> >
> >I don't recognize the CYN abbreviation. Would you translate?
> >
> >Some things were a little spendy but not noticeably more so than other[/color][/color]
parts[color=blue][color=green]
> >of the West, where gas, food, etc, get hauled in from far away.[/color]
>
> Sorry
>
> Canyon
>
> [url]http://www.answers.com/topic/cyn-3[/url]
>
> j[/color]

No need to be sorry. Thanks for the translation and the link; you've done
your bit today to help stamp out ignorance. :-)

I plugged in another acronym I know of and got the answer I expected. I'll
have to try to remember that site; it looks useful.



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Old 08-25-2006, 01:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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The beauty is to get different contexts - even slang and international
uses.
Also try - when in google "define: xxxxx whatever"


On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:13:39 -0500, "dh" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
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>"joe" <nonspam@invalid.com> wrote in message
>news:567se2pjmei9kk775n5s7507kevqrfb6dc@4ax.com...[color=green]
>>[color=darkred]
>> >> Don't forget to bring sacks of money.
>> >> The CYN is the ONLY source of income for AZ - or so it seems.
>> >> All parks should be free. <GRIN>
>> >>
>> >> j
>> >
>> >I don't recognize the CYN abbreviation. Would you translate?
>> >
>> >Some things were a little spendy but not noticeably more so than other[/color][/color]
>parts[color=green][color=darkred]
>> >of the West, where gas, food, etc, get hauled in from far away.[/color]
>>
>> Sorry
>>
>> Canyon
>>
>> [url]http://www.answers.com/topic/cyn-3[/url]
>>
>> j[/color]
>
>No need to be sorry. Thanks for the translation and the link; you've done
>your bit today to help stamp out ignorance. :-)
>
>I plugged in another acronym I know of and got the answer I expected. I'll
>have to try to remember that site; it looks useful.[/color]
 
Old 08-25-2006, 05:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
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If you plan to stay overnight, and you should, you should be looking for one
of the busses that go to the Grand Canyon daily. Better yet, look for one of
the helicopters that fly out of Los Vegas on day trips ;)


mike hunt


"ortcloud" <feurio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Hi folks,
>
> I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (been dreaming for a long time
> about it) driving in my old trusty Camry 95. After 145000 miles of road
> in 11 years I think it will still handle another 3000 + miles with
> ease.[/color]

<snip>
[color=blue]
>so maybe you could tell me what I should be looking for.
> Thank you very much in advance for any help you could give me and your
> time.
>[/color]


 
Old 08-25-2006, 05:36 PM   #15 (permalink)
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:10:37 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>If you plan to stay overnight, and you should, you should be looking for one
>of the busses that go to the Grand Canyon daily. Better yet, look for one of
>the helicopters that fly out of Los Vegas on day trips ;)[/color]

Or the train....

[color=blue]
>
>
>mike hunt
>
>
>"ortcloud" <feurio@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I'm planning a trip to the Grand Canyon (been dreaming for a long time
>> about it) driving in my old trusty Camry 95. After 145000 miles of road
>> in 11 years I think it will still handle another 3000 + miles with
>> ease.[/color]
>
><snip>
>[color=green]
>>so maybe you could tell me what I should be looking for.
>> Thank you very much in advance for any help you could give me and your
>> time.
>>[/color]
>[/color]

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