OT - Something else Scott and I may agree on

Remember the contract with America. Mostly turned out to be a load of crap.
But I have an idea that I think both left and right wingers will go for.
Considering how companies and the court system has turned back the clock on
pensions, it is time that one party stands up and says it is the end for
extravagant pensions for federal lawmakers and judges. Same thing on health
benefits. And why not include the President in the roll back on benefits.
First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may get my vote.

If that is what you believe than you know nothing about the Contact with
America. Everything they said they would do they did, do. do some research
before you post then perhaps you would not appear so foolish so often.
LOL


mike hunt


"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Remember the contract with America. Mostly turned out to be a load of
> crap. But I have an idea that I think both left and right wingers will go
> for. Considering how companies and the court system has turned back the
> clock on pensions, it is time that one party stands up and says it is the
> end for extravagant pensions for federal lawmakers and judges. Same thing
> on health benefits. And why not include the President in the roll back on
> benefits. First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may
> get my vote.
>[/color]

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:11:30 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
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>Remember the contract with America. Mostly turned out to be a load of crap.
>But I have an idea that I think both left and right wingers will go for.
>Considering how companies and the court system has turned back the clock on
>pensions, it is time that one party stands up and says it is the end for
>extravagant pensions for federal lawmakers and judges. Same thing on health
>benefits. And why not include the President in the roll back on benefits.
>First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may get my vote.
>[/color]

Why not put Congress on a performance salary?

If they don't balance the budget their salary gets reduced....


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Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:24:19 -0700, "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com>
wrote:
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>My other gripe with Congressmen is their perk of parking near the terminal
>at Reagan National Airport next to D.C.. It makes me irritated every time I
>schlep from far away parking spots to the terminal building only to see
>spaces reserved for congress persons only. Hell, they all have aides who'd
>like nothing more than to drive them to the airport and pick them up when
>they return. Or they can bloody well walk a quarter mile to and from their
>parking spots like the rest of us!
>[/color]

I used to fly out of Washington National before the subway...etc.

I had the same feelings walking by that parking lot.

It is amazing I didn't key those damned cars...LOL


--

Scott in Florida

'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'

On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:31:51 GMT, Scott in Florida
<askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
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>On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:11:30 GMT, "Art"
><begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
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>>Remember the contract with America. Mostly turned out to be a load of crap.
>>But I have an idea that I think both left and right wingers will go for.
>>Considering how companies and the court system has turned back the clock on
>>pensions, it is time that one party stands up and says it is the end for
>>extravagant pensions for federal lawmakers and judges. Same thing on health
>>benefits. And why not include the President in the roll back on benefits.
>>First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may get my vote.
>>[/color]
>
>Why not put Congress on a performance salary?
>
>If they don't balance the budget their salary gets reduced....[/color]

I'm surprised you would suggest this. It's bound to make your beloved
Republicans into paupers.

"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
> news:p0rue29qh3gv09e5e7gte152dp0nb5u5pf@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:11:30 GMT, "Art"
>> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Remember the contract with America. Mostly turned out to be a load of
>>>crap.
>>>But I have an idea that I think both left and right wingers will go for.
>>>Considering how companies and the court system has turned back the clock
>>>on
>>>pensions, it is time that one party stands up and says it is the end for
>>>extravagant pensions for federal lawmakers and judges. Same thing on
>>>health
>>>benefits. And why not include the President in the roll back on
>>>benefits.
>>>First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may get my
>>>vote.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Why not put Congress on a performance salary?
>>
>> If they don't balance the budget their salary gets reduced....
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Scott in Florida[/color]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> there ya go, Scott! I knew we could agree on something. I'd like to
> see Congress get a much lower pension, based on years in office, so no one
> in the House or Senate could ever make more in retirement than they did
> while in office, and take away their awesome health benefits, which
> private citizens don't enjoy.
> My other gripe with Congressmen is their perk of parking near the terminal
> at Reagan National Airport next to D.C.. It makes me irritated every time
> I schlep from far away parking spots to the terminal building only to see
> spaces reserved for congress persons only. Hell, they all have aides
> who'd like nothing more than to drive them to the airport and pick them up
> when they return. Or they can bloody well walk a quarter mile to and
> from their parking spots like the rest of us![/color]


They get better parking privledges than handicapped people. That makes me
want to break their kneecaps.

Art wrote:
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>Remember the contract with America. Mostly turned out to be a load of crap.
>But I have an idea that I think both left and right wingers will go for.
>Considering how companies and the court system has turned back the clock on
>pensions, it is time that one party stands up and says it is the end for
>extravagant pensions for federal lawmakers and judges. Same thing on health
>benefits. And why not include the President in the roll back on benefits.
>First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may get my vote.[/color]

Yeah, right. The only time "adjustments" like you propose get made is
when there's competitors.

"dizzy" <dizzy@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:q48ve2hnvm5pqijdm8pq4v5fk6vqdn0lvj@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> Art wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Remember the contract with America. Mostly turned out to be a load of
>>crap.
>>But I have an idea that I think both left and right wingers will go for.
>>Considering how companies and the court system has turned back the clock
>>on
>>pensions, it is time that one party stands up and says it is the end for
>>extravagant pensions for federal lawmakers and judges. Same thing on
>>health
>>benefits. And why not include the President in the roll back on benefits.
>>First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may get my vote.[/color]
>
> Yeah, right. The only time "adjustments" like you propose get made is
> when there's competitors.
>[/color]


There is competition to be elected.

We need to go back and find out where and how Congressmen and Senators,
referred to as citizen legislators by the founders, ever got to the point
where they should receive a pension, let alone such a good pension with
benefits.

When we discover that, perhaps we can get that law repealed or overturned by
the NEW Supreme Court. ;)


mike hunt


"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
> news:p0rue29qh3gv09e5e7gte152dp0nb5u5pf@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:11:30 GMT, "Art"
>> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>Remember the contract with America. Mostly turned out to be a load of
>>>crap.
>>>But I have an idea that I think both left and right wingers will go for.
>>>Considering how companies and the court system has turned back the clock
>>>on
>>>pensions, it is time that one party stands up and says it is the end for
>>>extravagant pensions for federal lawmakers and judges. Same thing on
>>>health
>>>benefits. And why not include the President in the roll back on
>>>benefits.
>>>First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may get my
>>>vote.
>>>[/color]
>>
>> Why not put Congress on a performance salary?
>>
>> If they don't balance the budget their salary gets reduced....
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Scott in Florida[/color]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> there ya go, Scott! I knew we could agree on something. I'd like to
> see Congress get a much lower pension, based on years in office, so no one
> in the House or Senate could ever make more in retirement than they did
> while in office, and take away their awesome health benefits, which
> private citizens don't enjoy.
> My other gripe with Congressmen is their perk of parking near the terminal
> at Reagan National Airport next to D.C.. It makes me irritated every time
> I schlep from far away parking spots to the terminal building only to see
> spaces reserved for congress persons only. Hell, they all have aides
> who'd like nothing more than to drive them to the airport and pick them up
> when they return. Or they can bloody well walk a quarter mile to and
> from their parking spots like the rest of us!
>[/color]

If the congressmen and Senators had to fight traffic and for parking, like
the rest of us, they would have less time to spend in the House and Senate
and perhaps not spend so much of our money buying votes. LOL


mike hunt


"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
news:k9vue2h2bnfsrb8599pu0lufljs93bl15l@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:24:19 -0700, "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>My other gripe with Congressmen is their perk of parking near the terminal
>>at Reagan National Airport next to D.C.. It makes me irritated every time
>>I
>>schlep from far away parking spots to the terminal building only to see
>>spaces reserved for congress persons only. Hell, they all have aides
>>who'd
>>like nothing more than to drive them to the airport and pick them up when
>>they return. Or they can bloody well walk a quarter mile to and from
>>their
>>parking spots like the rest of us!
>>[/color]
>
> I used to fly out of Washington National before the subway...etc.
>
> I had the same feelings walking by that parking lot.
>
> It is amazing I didn't key those damned cars...LOL
>
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida
>
> 'The Land of the Free Thanks to the Brave'[/color]

In article <wyudnZWXN6y4MW3ZUSdV9g@ptd.net>,
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
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> We need to go back and find out where and how Congressmen and Senators,
> referred to as citizen legislators by the founders, ever got to the point
> where they should receive a pension, let alone such a good pension with
> benefits.
>
> When we discover that, perhaps we can get that law repealed or overturned by
> the NEW Supreme Court. ;)
>
>
> mike hunt[/color]

That would be a cold, cold day in hell. Just think, no bennies, low pay
and what do we have? Islamic terrorists running the company.


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>
>
> "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
> news:12euu4pbj7jn641@corp.supernews.com...[color=green]
> >
> > "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
> > news:p0rue29qh3gv09e5e7gte152dp0nb5u5pf@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
> >> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:11:30 GMT, "Art"
> >> <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Remember the contract with America. Mostly turned out to be a load of
> >>>crap.
> >>>But I have an idea that I think both left and right wingers will go for.
> >>>Considering how companies and the court system has turned back the clock
> >>>on
> >>>pensions, it is time that one party stands up and says it is the end for
> >>>extravagant pensions for federal lawmakers and judges. Same thing on
> >>>health
> >>>benefits. And why not include the President in the roll back on
> >>>benefits.
> >>>First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may get my
> >>>vote.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Why not put Congress on a performance salary?
> >>
> >> If they don't balance the budget their salary gets reduced....
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Scott in Florida[/color]
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > there ya go, Scott! I knew we could agree on something. I'd like to
> > see Congress get a much lower pension, based on years in office, so no one
> > in the House or Senate could ever make more in retirement than they did
> > while in office, and take away their awesome health benefits, which
> > private citizens don't enjoy.
> > My other gripe with Congressmen is their perk of parking near the terminal
> > at Reagan National Airport next to D.C.. It makes me irritated every time
> > I schlep from far away parking spots to the terminal building only to see
> > spaces reserved for congress persons only. Hell, they all have aides
> > who'd like nothing more than to drive them to the airport and pick them up
> > when they return. Or they can bloody well walk a quarter mile to and
> > from their parking spots like the rest of us!
> >[/color][/color]
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As usual our friend Dizzy AKA Idiot, Troll, Stupid, Asshole, Dumbshit.
Dumbass, Engineer, Twit, and proven pathological liar etc" has no idea what
he is talking about


The Contract with America, as implemented in the House.

On the first day of the 104th Congress, the new Republican majority will
immediately pass the following major reforms, aimed at restoring the faith
and trust of the American people in their government:


a.. FIRST, require all laws that apply to the rest of the country also
apply equally to the Congress;
b.. SECOND, select a major, independent auditing firm to conduct a
comprehensive audit of Congress for waste, fraud or abuse;
c.. THIRD, cut the number of House committees, and cut committee staff by
one-third;
d.. FOURTH, limit the terms of all committee chairs;
e.. FIFTH, ban the casting of proxy votes in committee;
f.. SIXTH, require committee meetings to be open to the public;
g.. SEVENTH, require a three-fifths majority vote to pass a tax increase;
h.. EIGHTH, guarantee an honest accounting of our Federal Budget by
implementing zero base-line budgeting.
Thereafter, within the first 100 days of the 104th Congress, we shall bring
to the House Floor the following bills, each to be given full and open
debate, each to be given a clear and fair vote and each to be immediately
available this day for public inspection and scrutiny.

1. THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT: A balanced budget/tax limitation amendment
and a legislative line-item veto to restore fiscal responsibility to an out-
of-control Congress, requiring them to live under the same budget
constraints as families and businesses. (Bill Text) (Description)

2. THE TAKING BACK OUR STREETS ACT: An anti-crime package including stronger
truth-in- sentencing, "good faith" exclusionary rule exemptions, effective
death penalty provisions, and cuts in social spending from this summer's
"crime" bill to fund prison construction and additional law enforcement to
keep people secure in their neighborhoods and kids safe in their schools.
(Bill Text) (Description)

3. THE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY ACT: Discourage illegitimacy and teen
pregnancy by prohibiting welfare to minor mothers and denying increased AFDC
for additional children while on welfare, cut spending for welfare programs,
and enact a tough two-years-and-out provision with work requirements to
promote individual responsibility. (Bill Text) (Description)

4. THE FAMILY REINFORCEMENT ACT: Child support enforcement, tax incentives
for adoption, strengthening rights of parents in their children's education,
stronger child pornography laws, and an elderly dependent care tax credit to
reinforce the central role of families in American society. (Bill Text)
(Description)

5. THE AMERICAN DREAM RESTORATION ACT: A S500 per child tax credit, begin
repeal of the marriage tax penalty, and creation of American Dream Savings
Accounts to provide middle class tax relief. (Bill Text) (Description)

6. THE NATIONAL SECURITY RESTORATION ACT: No U.S. troops under U.N. command
and restoration of the essential parts of our national security funding to
strengthen our national defense and maintain our credibility around the
world. (Bill Text) (Description)

7. THE SENIOR CITIZENS FAIRNESS ACT: Raise the Social Security earnings
limit which currently forces seniors out of the work force, repeal the 1993
tax hikes on Social Security benefits and provide tax incentives for private
long-term care insurance to let Older Americans keep more of what they have
earned over the years. (Bill Text) (Description)

8. THE JOB CREATION AND WAGE ENHANCEMENT ACT: Small business incentives,
capital gains cut and indexation, neutral cost recovery, risk
assessment/cost-benefit analysis, strengthening the Regulatory Flexibility
Act and unfunded mandate reform to create jobs and raise worker wages. (Bill
Text) (Description)

9. THE COMMON SENSE LEGAL REFORM ACT: "Loser pays" laws, reasonable limits
on punitive damages and reform of product liability laws to stem the endless
tide of litigation. (Bill Text) (Description)

10. THE CITIZEN LEGISLATURE ACT: A first-ever vote on term limits to replace
career politicians with citizen legislators. (Description)

Further, we will instruct the House Budget Committee to report to the floor
and we will work to enact additional budget savings, beyond the budget cuts
specifically included in the legislation described above, to ensure that the
Federal budget deficit will be less than it would have been without the
enactment of these bills.

Respecting the judgment of our fellow citizens as we seek their mandate for
reform, we hereby pledge our names to this Contract with America.

ALL of those bills were introduced an passed by the House. Un fortunitly
not all were passed by the Senate because of Dimocrat delaying tactics
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>[/color]

Art wrote:
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>>>First party who promises to end these decadent privileges may get my vote.[/color]
>>
>> Yeah, right. The only time "adjustments" like you propose get made is
>> when there's competitors.[/color]
>
>There is competition to be elected.[/color]

Not really. They're all the same gutless self-promotors and scum, if
not when elected then after they've been there for a while.