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Old 09-10-2006, 09:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK, now *I* need some 'sound' advice

Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.

I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.

Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
the hatch.

Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner from
Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.

Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an option!!! ;)

BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.
 
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: OK, now *I* need some 'sound' advice

Hachi,

Don't have any advice for you, but please see my other post titled '91
Tercel ?'s'

Thanks,

Carl

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:4v3Ng.6645$wj2.3384@trndny06...[color=blue]
> Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
> MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>
> I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
> higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
> probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
> disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>
> Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
> the hatch.
>
> Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
> outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner from
> Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>
> Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
> on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an option!!!
> ;)
>
> BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color]


 
Old 09-10-2006, 09:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: OK, now *I* need some 'sound' advice

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:13:36 -0700, Carl wrote:
[color=blue]
> Hachi,
>
> Don't have any advice for you, but please see my other post titled '91
> Tercel ?'s'
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carl[/color]

Saw it Carl. The topics you asked about...I pay a friend of mine to do!!!

One thing you might try is Castrol High-Mileage oil. It seems to have
worked on the valve seals on my Supra. I don't get the Blue Puff when I
start up in the morning now! Hell of a lot easier than changing the seals!!!

Those Tercels are neat cars!
And nice to see you back!


[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:4v3Ng.6645$wj2.3384@trndny06...[color=green]
>> Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
>> MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>>
>> I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
>> higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
>> probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
>> disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>>
>> Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
>> the hatch.
>>
>> Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
>> outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner from
>> Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>>
>> Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
>> on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an option!!!
>> ;)
>>
>> BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color][/color]

 
Old 09-10-2006, 09:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: OK, now *I* need some 'sound' advice

What ever happened to those guys who fancied this a political forum?

Carl

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:qH3Ng.132$yc4.84@trndny01...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:13:36 -0700, Carl wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Hachi,
>>
>> Don't have any advice for you, but please see my other post titled
>> '91
>> Tercel ?'s'
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Carl[/color]
>
> Saw it Carl. The topics you asked about...I pay a friend of mine to do!!!
>
> One thing you might try is Castrol High-Mileage oil. It seems to have
> worked on the valve seals on my Supra. I don't get the Blue Puff when I
> start up in the morning now! Hell of a lot easier than changing the
> seals!!!
>
> Those Tercels are neat cars!
> And nice to see you back!
>
>
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:4v3Ng.6645$wj2.3384@trndny06...[color=darkred]
>>> Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
>>> MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>>>
>>> I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
>>> higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that
>>> would
>>> probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
>>> disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>>>
>>> Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
>>> the hatch.
>>>
>>> Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
>>> outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner
>>> from
>>> Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>>>
>>> Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
>>> on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an
>>> option!!!
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color][/color]
>[/color]


 
Old 09-10-2006, 10:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:04:48 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
>MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>
>I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
>higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
>probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
>disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>
>Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
>the hatch.
>
>Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
>outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner from
>Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>
>Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
>on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an option!!! ;)
>
>BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color]

Hachiroku,

Still at the forum, I see. It's been a while hasn't it?

The factory radios do not have a line out but there is a kit you can
buy that can convert it for you. You should be able to get it at any
electronic store that sells radios (Sound Advice, Best Buy,
Walmart,...).

The problem is the headunit itself is relatively poor in sound quality
compared to your aftermarket ones. If you must use the factory unit,
you'd want to use efficient speakers. The MB Quarts won't do the
trick unless you use an amplifier for them as well. If theft isn't a
concern, I'd use the JVC headunit that you have. If you can, I'd
suggest to upgrade the headunit to the Pioneer Premier P880. That
unit sounds tremendous with an amp and subwoofer.

 
Old 09-10-2006, 10:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:04:48 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
>MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>
>I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
>higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
>probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
>disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>
>Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
>the hatch.
>
>Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
>outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner from
>Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>
>Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
>on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an option!!! ;)
>
>BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color]

....and it's "Frikkin fast" <g>

(tC's are...camry clones??)

....
 
Old 09-11-2006, 11:08 AM   #7 (permalink)
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"Carl" <carlsaiyed@hotmailREMOVE.com> wrote in message
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> What ever happened to those guys who fancied this a political forum?
>
> Carl[/color]

Um, still do...

you must have either Killfiled them, or successfully weeded out OT...

In which case you may miss a lot of ToyOTa posts!!



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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:qH3Ng.132$yc4.84@trndny01...[color=green]
>> On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 19:13:36 -0700, Carl wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Hachi,
>>>
>>> Don't have any advice for you, but please see my other post titled
>>> '91
>>> Tercel ?'s'
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Carl[/color]
>>
>> Saw it Carl. The topics you asked about...I pay a friend of mine to do!!!
>>
>> One thing you might try is Castrol High-Mileage oil. It seems to have
>> worked on the valve seals on my Supra. I don't get the Blue Puff when I
>> start up in the morning now! Hell of a lot easier than changing the
>> seals!!!
>>
>> Those Tercels are neat cars!
>> And nice to see you back!
>>
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>> news:4v3Ng.6645$wj2.3384@trndny06...
>>>> Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
>>>> MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>>>>
>>>> I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
>>>> higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that
>>>> would
>>>> probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I
>>>> CAN
>>>> disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely
>>>> in
>>>> the hatch.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
>>>> outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner
>>>> from
>>>> Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>>>>
>>>> Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any
>>>> experience/advice
>>>> on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an
>>>> option!!!
>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>> BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]


 
Old 09-11-2006, 11:16 AM   #8 (permalink)
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"Viperkiller" <nothing@nothing.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:04:48 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
>>MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>>
>>I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
>>higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
>>probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
>>disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>>
>>Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
>>the hatch.
>>
>>Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
>>outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner from
>>Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>>
>>Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
>>on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an option!!!
>>;)
>>
>>BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color]
>
> Hachiroku,
>
> Still at the forum, I see. It's been a while hasn't it?
>
> The factory radios do not have a line out but there is a kit you can
> buy that can convert it for you. You should be able to get it at any
> electronic store that sells radios (Sound Advice, Best Buy,
> Walmart,...).
>
> The problem is the headunit itself is relatively poor in sound quality
> compared to your aftermarket ones. If you must use the factory unit,
> you'd want to use efficient speakers. The MB Quarts won't do the
> trick unless you use an amplifier for them as well. If theft isn't a
> concern, I'd use the JVC headunit that you have. If you can, I'd
> suggest to upgrade the headunit to the Pioneer Premier P880. That
> unit sounds tremendous with an amp and subwoofer.
>[/color]

Yeah, after I posted this I did a search and discovered the PIE Toy-03 Line
adapter.

The system really isn't *TOO* bad, you have to boost it to get any sound,
and there are also a couple of interesting little buttons; one is right on
the Front panel and says SSP. When you puch it you get Neutral, Hear and
Feel. Feel works pretty well! With the Quarts it may be acceptable.

When I put a disk in, it sounded pretty tinny, so I wante to see where the
Bass was set, and when I punched "A" (for Audio Select) there was a new
feature called SRT. It also has two or three settings; I punched it and it
expanded the sound *ALMOST* good enough.

I don't have the unit that's iPod ready, so I will have to get the input
adapter to connect my XM. I read that if you use the Toy-03 Input adapter
you push DISC 2x; this person may not have had the SAT ready radio.

I am going to have to get a harness anyway, since neither of my JVCs have a
front panel input, and a special cable is required (at at LEAST $54...) so
either way I am going to have to shell out $$$ to connect directly. It's
like 6 to one and a Half Dozed to the other...

THe only unit I have that has a line-in is an AIWA, but it doesn't play
MP3s. It IS a good unit, though.


 
Old 09-11-2006, 11:20 AM   #9 (permalink)
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"Noneyabusiness" <TopSecret@Need2No.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:04:48 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
>>MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>>
>>I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
>>higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
>>probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
>>disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>>
>>Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
>>the hatch.
>>
>>Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
>>outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner from
>>Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>>
>>Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
>>on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an option!!!
>>;)
>>
>>BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color]
>
> ...and it's "Frikkin fast" <g>
>
> (tC's are...camry clones??)[/color]

DAMN! It's frikkin' FAST!!!!

I drove it on the highway for the first time on the way to work today. They
have just repaved Rt 91 (Dubbed the "Autobahn of North America" some years
ago by Car & Driver...) from the Vermont line to the first exit in Vermont.
Whooooo Hooooo!
A nice smooth car on a nice smooth road!!!

Yup...reminds me of the Good Ol' Days when my 'Hachiroku' was Brand New!

It is actually more of a Celica. I believe it has the better parts of the
Celica suspension, with a 2.4L Twin Cam lifted from the Camry, and the body
is stuck somewhere between the Celica and the Solara.



 
Old 09-11-2006, 12:43 PM   #10 (permalink)
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:4v3Ng.6645$wj2.3384@trndny06...[color=blue]
> Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
> MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>
> I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
> higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
> probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
> disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>
> Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
> the hatch.[/color]


The electrical/charging system's good for that extra 25amp
load + spikes of a 300 watt subwoofer amp right?


[color=blue]
> Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
> outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner from
> Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>
> Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
> on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an option!!! ;)
>
> BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color]


 
Old 09-11-2006, 08:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:02:22 -0400, Viperkiller wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 02:04:48 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
>>MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>>
>>I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
>>higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
>>probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
>>disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>>
>>Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
>>the hatch.
>>
>>Has anyone looked at one of these Pioneer radios? Does it have any line
>>outs on it? I am guessing SAT READY means I would have to buy a tuner from
>>Toyota, not a 1/4" input jack.
>>
>>Before I go ripping the car to pieces, anyone have any experience/advice
>>on the Scion audio package? (and, NO, "Leave it alone" is NOT an option!!! ;)
>>
>>BTW, in case you missed my other post, it's a tC.[/color]
>
> Hachiroku,
>
> Still at the forum, I see. It's been a while hasn't it?
>
> The factory radios do not have a line out but there is a kit you can
> buy that can convert it for you. You should be able to get it at any
> electronic store that sells radios (Sound Advice, Best Buy,
> Walmart,...).[/color]

I misspoke in my last response. The part I was talking about there was a
line IN for an iPod or XM

There are two 'extra ports' on the rear of the radio; one is for the PIE
input for iPod or XM...it adapts Line (RCA) inputs to the 12 pin
connection on the rear of the radio that the SAT receiver plugs into.

There is also another one, that I am assuming is the output for the
optiional sub-woofer. There must be a way to tap into this.

I kind of like the redio that came with the car...it's not bad! Better
than any head unit I have gotten with a car, except my Jetta, that came
with a Blaupunkt (Before they hit the sh!tter!)



[color=blue]
>
> The problem is the headunit itself is relatively poor in sound quality
> compared to your aftermarket ones. If you must use the factory unit,
> you'd want to use efficient speakers. The MB Quarts won't do the
> trick unless you use an amplifier for them as well. If theft isn't a
> concern, I'd use the JVC headunit that you have. If you can, I'd
> suggest to upgrade the headunit to the Pioneer Premier P880. That
> unit sounds tremendous with an amp and subwoofer.[/color]

 
Old 09-12-2006, 12:45 AM   #12 (permalink)
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:19:33 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:

[color=blue]
>I ran 650 Watts in an '85 Corolls GT-S w/65 AMP alternator for 15 years
>and changed the battery, um...ONCE, and have been running 700 Watts in my
>Supra (70 AMP Alternator) for two. I also ran 500 Watts in a Tercel for
>3.5 years with whatever alternator was in that with no problem.[/color]

If you do most of your driving during the day, and you keep the
stereo volume in the levels a sane person can stand at night, a stock
alternator will take a healthy stereo no problem. You might draw 30A
peaks for a few milliseconds at the bass thump, but other than that
they don't draw as much as you'd think.

Where you get in real trouble is when you start adding auxiliary and
emergency lighting, multiple two way radios, CB, scanner, etc., and it
isn't fun when you run out of juice. Trust me, THAT'S when you really
need the big alternator.

--<< Bruce >>--

 
Old 09-12-2006, 11:15 AM   #13 (permalink)
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:45:06 +0000, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:19:33 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>I ran 650 Watts in an '85 Corolls GT-S w/65 AMP alternator for 15 years
>>and changed the battery, um...ONCE, and have been running 700 Watts in my
>>Supra (70 AMP Alternator) for two. I also ran 500 Watts in a Tercel for
>>3.5 years with whatever alternator was in that with no problem.[/color]
>
> If you do most of your driving during the day, and you keep the
> stereo volume in the levels a sane person can stand at night, a stock
> alternator will take a healthy stereo no problem. You might draw 30A
> peaks for a few milliseconds at the bass thump, but other than that
> they don't draw as much as you'd think.
>
> Where you get in real trouble is when you start adding auxiliary and
> emergency lighting, multiple two way radios, CB, scanner, etc., and it
> isn't fun when you run out of juice. Trust me, THAT'S when you really
> need the big alternator.
>
> --<< Bruce >>--[/color]


I knew I forgot something! On the Hachiroku, I was also running Fog
Lights with 50 Watts each, AND Driving Lights with 100 Watts EACH,
(since I lived in a REAL rural area I used both of them, PLUS the regular
lighting) and a scanner (just because)...


 
Old 09-13-2006, 12:08 AM   #14 (permalink)
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 16:15:42 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:[color=blue]
>On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 05:45:06 +0000, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:[color=green]
>> On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 01:19:33 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>I ran 650 Watts in an '85 Corolls GT-S w/65 AMP alternator for 15 years
>>>and changed the battery, um...ONCE, and have been running 700 Watts in my
>>>Supra (70 AMP Alternator) for two. I also ran 500 Watts in a Tercel for
>>>3.5 years with whatever alternator was in that with no problem.[/color]
>>
>> If you do most of your driving during the day, and you keep the
>> stereo volume in the levels a sane person can stand at night, a stock
>> alternator will take a healthy stereo no problem. You might draw 30A
>> peaks for a few milliseconds at the bass thump, but other than that
>> they don't draw as much as you'd think.
>>
>> Where you get in real trouble is when you start adding auxiliary and
>> emergency lighting, multiple two way radios, CB, scanner, etc., and it
>> isn't fun when you run out of juice. Trust me, THAT'S when you really
>> need the big alternator.[/color]
>
>I knew I forgot something! On the Hachiroku, I was also running Fog
>Lights with 50 Watts each, AND Driving Lights with 100 Watts EACH,
>(since I lived in a REAL rural area I used both of them, PLUS the regular
>lighting) and a scanner (just because)...[/color]

Now you know why California has a few rules - Fog lights must be
interlocked to come on with the Low Beams only, and Driving lights
must be interlocked to come on with the High beams only. All four at
once, and tail/markers with either Fogs or Drivings only (headlights
off) are prohibited. Besides avoiding blinding people, it also has
the side effect of reducing the amp draw.

Oh, and there's another statute that high-end Mercedes and BMW
drivers should know - Fog Taillights are supposed to be interlocked to
the front fog lights, and have a separate switch & pilot light to
remind the driver. And are ONLY to be used in actual heavy fog
conditions, not just to be cool.

And you are right Hachi, with a killer stereo, and a scanner, AND
both fog and driving lights, now you are getting into oversized
alternator needed territory.

But a word of advice: Oversized alternators also need an oversized
output lead from the alternator to the battery, or you will see smoke
where you don't want it...

Abandon the factory Battery/Alternator lead in place in the harness
- you may need to insulate the alternator end and leave it connected
to the battery if there are other items tapped off it, check the
wiring diagrams. And run a nice chunk of #4 Welding Cable or better
(with some corrugated loom for extra ground-out resistance) between
the {+} battery post adapter and the alternator output stud.

--<< Bruce >>--

 
Old 09-13-2006, 01:08 AM   #15 (permalink)
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:FWnNg.212$c03.173@trndny05...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 17:43:25 +0000, Danny G. wrote:
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>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:4v3Ng.6645$wj2.3384@trndny06...[color=darkred]
>>> Not sure if I want to yank the deck out of the Scion. It has an Pioneer
>>> MP3 player, and I have a JVC MP3/WMA player.
>>>
>>> I think I want to swap the speakers, but noticed there is a tweeter up
>>> higher in the door, near the door handle. I have some MB Quarts that would
>>> probably fit right in, but are 6.5" woofers with 1" dome tweeters. I CAN
>>> disconnect the tweeters on the Quarts.
>>>
>>> Also, I have a 300 watt amp and a 12" sub that would fit quite nicely in
>>> the hatch.[/color]
>>
>>
>> The electrical/charging system's good for that extra 25amp
>> load + spikes of a 300 watt subwoofer amp right?[/color]
>
>
> I ran 650 Watts in an '85 Corolls GT-S w/65 AMP alternator for 15 years
> and changed the battery, um...ONCE, and have been running 700 Watts in my
> Supra (70 AMP Alternator) for two. I also ran 500 Watts in a Tercel for
> 3.5 years with whatever alternator was in that with no problem.
>[/color]


I guess you must be talking about amplifiers that make there ratings based
on peak power ratings or something other than RMS.

But even at that I would have guessed all those cars would be going
thru alternators for sure.




 
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