Resistor pack? '90 Celica

OK, so previously I posted a thread about my blower only working when
set to "HI." Many of you pointed me to a thread about an '86 Supra with
the same issue. Within the thread, it said that it was because the
resistor pack had been burned out due to the extreme temperatures that
it is exposed to.

I have tried to find this resistor pack using diagrams provided to me
by Toyota. Unfortunately, I was not able to find them. I did however,
locate a white block item after unscrewing it from the (insert name of
large black box behind glovebox, sorry I can't remember the name). It
had four wires connected to it and was screwed in with two screws. I
looked at the connects on the white block and noticed that one of them
had been shorted out (wasn't connected).

Since I FINALLY got my digital camera a pair of batteries, I have
pictures:

[url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block0.jpg[/url]
Picture showing the location of where I found the block.

[url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block1.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block2.jpg[/url]
Picture showing the block after it was removed.

Now, I was hoping that this block was the resistor pack (and my reason
for assuming so is because I noticed that there is copper that seemed
to be burned away). And if it is not, could anyone tell me what this
is?

THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'm desperately trying to fix the issue with my
blower. Having it be too hot and too cold anytime I run the blower is
starting to be quite a bother.

On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:55:30 -0700, omnineko wrote:
[color=blue]
> OK, so previously I posted a thread about my blower only working when
> set to "HI." Many of you pointed me to a thread about an '86 Supra with
> the same issue. Within the thread, it said that it was because the
> resistor pack had been burned out due to the extreme temperatures that
> it is exposed to.
>
> I have tried to find this resistor pack using diagrams provided to me
> by Toyota. Unfortunately, I was not able to find them. I did however,
> locate a white block item after unscrewing it from the (insert name of
> large black box behind glovebox, sorry I can't remember the name). It
> had four wires connected to it and was screwed in with two screws. I
> looked at the connects on the white block and noticed that one of them
> had been shorted out (wasn't connected).
>
> Since I FINALLY got my digital camera a pair of batteries, I have
> pictures:
>
> [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block0.jpg[/url]
> Picture showing the location of where I found the block.
>
> [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block1.jpg[/url]
> [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block2.jpg[/url]
> Picture showing the block after it was removed.
>
> Now, I was hoping that this block was the resistor pack (and my reason
> for assuming so is because I noticed that there is copper that seemed
> to be burned away). And if it is not, could anyone tell me what this
> is?
>
> THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'm desperately trying to fix the issue with my
> blower. Having it be too hot and too cold anytime I run the blower is
> starting to be quite a bother.[/color]


Hmmmm...this is different from what I am used to seeing...but I think
you're a ways away from the mark.

In my experience with the older Toys I have owned, the resistor pack is IN
the fan cage. I believe, in the photo marked mystery-block1.jpg, in the
background ther is a white cage marked TOYOTA, with an assy #116200-8352,
12V with a big S on it. This SHOULD be the fan assy. Usually, the easiest
way to get this open is to loosen the three screws on the bottom of it.
You can then remove the fan motor, the 'squirrel cage' that is the fan,
the flange that attached the whole thing, and the resistor pack.

Now, my experience is 1988 and older...all my newer ones we have traded
before it needed this repair. But, that should be where it is located.
Perhaps someone with more recent experience may have a different input,
but that's where they were on 4 other models I've had to do this to.

Good luck...

Anyone have an idea of what it is? In mystery-block1.jpg, if you look
to the right of the connectors for the block, you will see that the
copper has been burned away from its connection. If this isn't the
resistor pack, any ideas to what it is and what effects may be caused
from the bad connection?

Hachiroku wrote:[color=blue]
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:55:30 -0700, omnineko wrote:
>[color=green]
> > OK, so previously I posted a thread about my blower only working when
> > set to "HI." Many of you pointed me to a thread about an '86 Supra with
> > the same issue. Within the thread, it said that it was because the
> > resistor pack had been burned out due to the extreme temperatures that
> > it is exposed to.
> >
> > I have tried to find this resistor pack using diagrams provided to me
> > by Toyota. Unfortunately, I was not able to find them. I did however,
> > locate a white block item after unscrewing it from the (insert name of
> > large black box behind glovebox, sorry I can't remember the name). It
> > had four wires connected to it and was screwed in with two screws. I
> > looked at the connects on the white block and noticed that one of them
> > had been shorted out (wasn't connected).
> >
> > Since I FINALLY got my digital camera a pair of batteries, I have
> > pictures:
> >
> > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block0.jpg[/url]
> > Picture showing the location of where I found the block.
> >
> > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block1.jpg[/url]
> > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block2.jpg[/url]
> > Picture showing the block after it was removed.
> >
> > Now, I was hoping that this block was the resistor pack (and my reason
> > for assuming so is because I noticed that there is copper that seemed
> > to be burned away). And if it is not, could anyone tell me what this
> > is?
> >
> > THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'm desperately trying to fix the issue with my
> > blower. Having it be too hot and too cold anytime I run the blower is
> > starting to be quite a bother.[/color]
>
>
> Hmmmm...this is different from what I am used to seeing...but I think
> you're a ways away from the mark.
>
> In my experience with the older Toys I have owned, the resistor pack is IN
> the fan cage. I believe, in the photo marked mystery-block1.jpg, in the
> background ther is a white cage marked TOYOTA, with an assy #116200-8352,
> 12V with a big S on it. This SHOULD be the fan assy. Usually, the easiest
> way to get this open is to loosen the three screws on the bottom of it.
> You can then remove the fan motor, the 'squirrel cage' that is the fan,
> the flange that attached the whole thing, and the resistor pack.
>
> Now, my experience is 1988 and older...all my newer ones we have traded
> before it needed this repair. But, that should be where it is located.
> Perhaps someone with more recent experience may have a different input,
> but that's where they were on 4 other models I've had to do this to.
>
> Good luck...[/color]

I did a little reading around on some other forums and stumbled upon
something called a "thermal overload relay." I was trying to find
pictures of this but really haven't found anything. Is it possible that
the white mystery block is a thermal overload relay? Could this be the
cause of my failed blower speeds?

Thanks.

[email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> Anyone have an idea of what it is? In mystery-block1.jpg, if you look
> to the right of the connectors for the block, you will see that the
> copper has been burned away from its connection. If this isn't the
> resistor pack, any ideas to what it is and what effects may be caused
> from the bad connection?
>
> Hachiroku wrote:[color=green]
> > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:55:30 -0700, omnineko wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> > > OK, so previously I posted a thread about my blower only working when
> > > set to "HI." Many of you pointed me to a thread about an '86 Supra with
> > > the same issue. Within the thread, it said that it was because the
> > > resistor pack had been burned out due to the extreme temperatures that
> > > it is exposed to.
> > >
> > > I have tried to find this resistor pack using diagrams provided to me
> > > by Toyota. Unfortunately, I was not able to find them. I did however,
> > > locate a white block item after unscrewing it from the (insert name of
> > > large black box behind glovebox, sorry I can't remember the name). It
> > > had four wires connected to it and was screwed in with two screws. I
> > > looked at the connects on the white block and noticed that one of them
> > > had been shorted out (wasn't connected).
> > >
> > > Since I FINALLY got my digital camera a pair of batteries, I have
> > > pictures:
> > >
> > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block0.jpg[/url]
> > > Picture showing the location of where I found the block.
> > >
> > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block1.jpg[/url]
> > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block2.jpg[/url]
> > > Picture showing the block after it was removed.
> > >
> > > Now, I was hoping that this block was the resistor pack (and my reason
> > > for assuming so is because I noticed that there is copper that seemed
> > > to be burned away). And if it is not, could anyone tell me what this
> > > is?
> > >
> > > THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'm desperately trying to fix the issue with my
> > > blower. Having it be too hot and too cold anytime I run the blower is
> > > starting to be quite a bother.[/color]
> >
> >
> > Hmmmm...this is different from what I am used to seeing...but I think
> > you're a ways away from the mark.
> >
> > In my experience with the older Toys I have owned, the resistor pack is IN
> > the fan cage. I believe, in the photo marked mystery-block1.jpg, in the
> > background ther is a white cage marked TOYOTA, with an assy #116200-8352,
> > 12V with a big S on it. This SHOULD be the fan assy. Usually, the easiest
> > way to get this open is to loosen the three screws on the bottom of it.
> > You can then remove the fan motor, the 'squirrel cage' that is the fan,
> > the flange that attached the whole thing, and the resistor pack.
> >
> > Now, my experience is 1988 and older...all my newer ones we have traded
> > before it needed this repair. But, that should be where it is located.
> > Perhaps someone with more recent experience may have a different input,
> > but that's where they were on 4 other models I've had to do this to.
> >
> > Good luck...[/color][/color]

Alright, so I read a few other threads about finding the location of
the resistor pack. I checked the fan assembly and didn't see it there
(also, I don't see any wires or connectors that would lead to the
resistor pack). I looked on this website:

[url]http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Blower.shtml#BlowerResistor[/url]

And wasn't able to figure out what picture one is showing. However, I
do not see anywhere underneath the glovebox compartment where it could
be. I checked at the firewall and well, can't really see much of it
from the interior of the car.

Any more ideas?

[email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> I did a little reading around on some other forums and stumbled upon
> something called a "thermal overload relay." I was trying to find
> pictures of this but really haven't found anything. Is it possible that
> the white mystery block is a thermal overload relay? Could this be the
> cause of my failed blower speeds?
>
> Thanks.
>
> [email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:[color=green]
> > Anyone have an idea of what it is? In mystery-block1.jpg, if you look
> > to the right of the connectors for the block, you will see that the
> > copper has been burned away from its connection. If this isn't the
> > resistor pack, any ideas to what it is and what effects may be caused
> > from the bad connection?
> >
> > Hachiroku wrote:[color=darkred]
> > > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:55:30 -0700, omnineko wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, so previously I posted a thread about my blower only working when
> > > > set to "HI." Many of you pointed me to a thread about an '86 Supra with
> > > > the same issue. Within the thread, it said that it was because the
> > > > resistor pack had been burned out due to the extreme temperatures that
> > > > it is exposed to.
> > > >
> > > > I have tried to find this resistor pack using diagrams provided to me
> > > > by Toyota. Unfortunately, I was not able to find them. I did however,
> > > > locate a white block item after unscrewing it from the (insert name of
> > > > large black box behind glovebox, sorry I can't remember the name). It
> > > > had four wires connected to it and was screwed in with two screws. I
> > > > looked at the connects on the white block and noticed that one of them
> > > > had been shorted out (wasn't connected).
> > > >
> > > > Since I FINALLY got my digital camera a pair of batteries, I have
> > > > pictures:
> > > >
> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block0.jpg[/url]
> > > > Picture showing the location of where I found the block.
> > > >
> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block1.jpg[/url]
> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block2.jpg[/url]
> > > > Picture showing the block after it was removed.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I was hoping that this block was the resistor pack (and my reason
> > > > for assuming so is because I noticed that there is copper that seemed
> > > > to be burned away). And if it is not, could anyone tell me what this
> > > > is?
> > > >
> > > > THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'm desperately trying to fix the issue with my
> > > > blower. Having it be too hot and too cold anytime I run the blower is
> > > > starting to be quite a bother.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmmm...this is different from what I am used to seeing...but I think
> > > you're a ways away from the mark.
> > >
> > > In my experience with the older Toys I have owned, the resistor pack is IN
> > > the fan cage. I believe, in the photo marked mystery-block1.jpg, in the
> > > background ther is a white cage marked TOYOTA, with an assy #116200-8352,
> > > 12V with a big S on it. This SHOULD be the fan assy. Usually, the easiest
> > > way to get this open is to loosen the three screws on the bottom of it.
> > > You can then remove the fan motor, the 'squirrel cage' that is the fan,
> > > the flange that attached the whole thing, and the resistor pack.
> > >
> > > Now, my experience is 1988 and older...all my newer ones we have traded
> > > before it needed this repair. But, that should be where it is located.
> > > Perhaps someone with more recent experience may have a different input,
> > > but that's where they were on 4 other models I've had to do this to.
> > >
> > > Good luck...[/color][/color][/color]

It is hard to tell from your pictures because the object you are pointing to
are so washed out.

Go to your local Toyota dealer and ask them to show you the location on the
parts computer. While you are at it, you can ask for a price for a new one.

--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
<omnineko@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158251833.753055.95470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Alright, so I read a few other threads about finding the location of
> the resistor pack. I checked the fan assembly and didn't see it there
> (also, I don't see any wires or connectors that would lead to the
> resistor pack). I looked on this website:
>
> [url]http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Blower.shtml#BlowerResistor[/url]
>
> And wasn't able to figure out what picture one is showing. However, I
> do not see anywhere underneath the glovebox compartment where it could
> be. I checked at the firewall and well, can't really see much of it
> from the interior of the car.
>
> Any more ideas?
>
> [email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:[color=green]
>> I did a little reading around on some other forums and stumbled upon
>> something called a "thermal overload relay." I was trying to find
>> pictures of this but really haven't found anything. Is it possible that
>> the white mystery block is a thermal overload relay? Could this be the
>> cause of my failed blower speeds?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> [email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:[color=darkred]
>> > Anyone have an idea of what it is? In mystery-block1.jpg, if you look
>> > to the right of the connectors for the block, you will see that the
>> > copper has been burned away from its connection. If this isn't the
>> > resistor pack, any ideas to what it is and what effects may be caused
>> > from the bad connection?
>> >
>> > Hachiroku wrote:
>> > > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:55:30 -0700, omnineko wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > OK, so previously I posted a thread about my blower only working
>> > > > when
>> > > > set to "HI." Many of you pointed me to a thread about an '86 Supra
>> > > > with
>> > > > the same issue. Within the thread, it said that it was because the
>> > > > resistor pack had been burned out due to the extreme temperatures
>> > > > that
>> > > > it is exposed to.
>> > > >
>> > > > I have tried to find this resistor pack using diagrams provided to
>> > > > me
>> > > > by Toyota. Unfortunately, I was not able to find them. I did
>> > > > however,
>> > > > locate a white block item after unscrewing it from the (insert name
>> > > > of
>> > > > large black box behind glovebox, sorry I can't remember the name).
>> > > > It
>> > > > had four wires connected to it and was screwed in with two screws.
>> > > > I
>> > > > looked at the connects on the white block and noticed that one of
>> > > > them
>> > > > had been shorted out (wasn't connected).
>> > > >
>> > > > Since I FINALLY got my digital camera a pair of batteries, I have
>> > > > pictures:
>> > > >
>> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block0.jpg[/url]
>> > > > Picture showing the location of where I found the block.
>> > > >
>> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block1.jpg[/url]
>> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block2.jpg[/url]
>> > > > Picture showing the block after it was removed.
>> > > >
>> > > > Now, I was hoping that this block was the resistor pack (and my
>> > > > reason
>> > > > for assuming so is because I noticed that there is copper that
>> > > > seemed
>> > > > to be burned away). And if it is not, could anyone tell me what
>> > > > this
>> > > > is?
>> > > >
>> > > > THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'm desperately trying to fix the issue with
>> > > > my
>> > > > blower. Having it be too hot and too cold anytime I run the blower
>> > > > is
>> > > > starting to be quite a bother.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hmmmm...this is different from what I am used to seeing...but I think
>> > > you're a ways away from the mark.
>> > >
>> > > In my experience with the older Toys I have owned, the resistor pack
>> > > is IN
>> > > the fan cage. I believe, in the photo marked mystery-block1.jpg, in
>> > > the
>> > > background ther is a white cage marked TOYOTA, with an assy
>> > > #116200-8352,
>> > > 12V with a big S on it. This SHOULD be the fan assy. Usually, the
>> > > easiest
>> > > way to get this open is to loosen the three screws on the bottom of
>> > > it.
>> > > You can then remove the fan motor, the 'squirrel cage' that is the
>> > > fan,
>> > > the flange that attached the whole thing, and the resistor pack.
>> > >
>> > > Now, my experience is 1988 and older...all my newer ones we have
>> > > traded
>> > > before it needed this repair. But, that should be where it is
>> > > located.
>> > > Perhaps someone with more recent experience may have a different
>> > > input,
>> > > but that's where they were on 4 other models I've had to do this to.
>> > >
>> > > Good luck...[/color][/color]
>[/color]

Yeah, I was a little afraid of that...

BUTTTTTT...

I GOT IT! That mysterious white block, whether or not it's a resistor
pack, THAT is what controls the settings for the fan speed in my car. I
temporarily fixed the broken copper (bent it over the terminal it
should've been connected to) and I now have all of my fan speeds!
NOW... To get a new one from the Toyota dealership.

Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> It is hard to tell from your pictures because the object you are pointing to
> are so washed out.
>
> Go to your local Toyota dealer and ask them to show you the location on the
> parts computer. While you are at it, you can ask for a price for a new one.
>
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
> <omnineko@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1158251833.753055.95470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> > Alright, so I read a few other threads about finding the location of
> > the resistor pack. I checked the fan assembly and didn't see it there
> > (also, I don't see any wires or connectors that would lead to the
> > resistor pack). I looked on this website:
> >
> > [url]http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Blower.shtml#BlowerResistor[/url]
> >
> > And wasn't able to figure out what picture one is showing. However, I
> > do not see anywhere underneath the glovebox compartment where it could
> > be. I checked at the firewall and well, can't really see much of it
> > from the interior of the car.
> >
> > Any more ideas?
> >
> > [email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> I did a little reading around on some other forums and stumbled upon
> >> something called a "thermal overload relay." I was trying to find
> >> pictures of this but really haven't found anything. Is it possible that
> >> the white mystery block is a thermal overload relay? Could this be the
> >> cause of my failed blower speeds?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> [email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
> >> > Anyone have an idea of what it is? In mystery-block1.jpg, if you look
> >> > to the right of the connectors for the block, you will see that the
> >> > copper has been burned away from its connection. If this isn't the
> >> > resistor pack, any ideas to what it is and what effects may be caused
> >> > from the bad connection?
> >> >
> >> > Hachiroku wrote:
> >> > > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:55:30 -0700, omnineko wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > OK, so previously I posted a thread about my blower only working
> >> > > > when
> >> > > > set to "HI." Many of you pointed me to a thread about an '86 Supra
> >> > > > with
> >> > > > the same issue. Within the thread, it said that it was because the
> >> > > > resistor pack had been burned out due to the extreme temperatures
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > it is exposed to.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I have tried to find this resistor pack using diagrams provided to
> >> > > > me
> >> > > > by Toyota. Unfortunately, I was not able to find them. I did
> >> > > > however,
> >> > > > locate a white block item after unscrewing it from the (insert name
> >> > > > of
> >> > > > large black box behind glovebox, sorry I can't remember the name).
> >> > > > It
> >> > > > had four wires connected to it and was screwed in with two screws.
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > looked at the connects on the white block and noticed that one of
> >> > > > them
> >> > > > had been shorted out (wasn't connected).
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Since I FINALLY got my digital camera a pair of batteries, I have
> >> > > > pictures:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block0.jpg[/url]
> >> > > > Picture showing the location of where I found the block.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block1.jpg[/url]
> >> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block2.jpg[/url]
> >> > > > Picture showing the block after it was removed.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Now, I was hoping that this block was the resistor pack (and my
> >> > > > reason
> >> > > > for assuming so is because I noticed that there is copper that
> >> > > > seemed
> >> > > > to be burned away). And if it is not, could anyone tell me what
> >> > > > this
> >> > > > is?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'm desperately trying to fix the issue with
> >> > > > my
> >> > > > blower. Having it be too hot and too cold anytime I run the blower
> >> > > > is
> >> > > > starting to be quite a bother.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Hmmmm...this is different from what I am used to seeing...but I think
> >> > > you're a ways away from the mark.
> >> > >
> >> > > In my experience with the older Toys I have owned, the resistor pack
> >> > > is IN
> >> > > the fan cage. I believe, in the photo marked mystery-block1.jpg, in
> >> > > the
> >> > > background ther is a white cage marked TOYOTA, with an assy
> >> > > #116200-8352,
> >> > > 12V with a big S on it. This SHOULD be the fan assy. Usually, the
> >> > > easiest
> >> > > way to get this open is to loosen the three screws on the bottom of
> >> > > it.
> >> > > You can then remove the fan motor, the 'squirrel cage' that is the
> >> > > fan,
> >> > > the flange that attached the whole thing, and the resistor pack.
> >> > >
> >> > > Now, my experience is 1988 and older...all my newer ones we have
> >> > > traded
> >> > > before it needed this repair. But, that should be where it is
> >> > > located.
> >> > > Perhaps someone with more recent experience may have a different
> >> > > input,
> >> > > but that's where they were on 4 other models I've had to do this to.
> >> > >
> >> > > Good luck...[/color]
> >[/color][/color]

On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:51:40 -0700, omnineko wrote:
[color=blue]
> Yeah, I was a little afraid of that...
>
> BUTTTTTT...
>
> I GOT IT! That mysterious white block, whether or not it's a resistor
> pack, THAT is what controls the settings for the fan speed in my car. I
> temporarily fixed the broken copper (bent it over the terminal it
> should've been connected to) and I now have all of my fan speeds!
> NOW... To get a new one from the Toyota dealership.[/color]


Ah! Thanks! Now I have a bit more knowledge!

BTW, was it REAL hard to get out?
You could try soldering it, or just reef on it so it maintains a
connection.
I've had 'fixes' like that work for years!

[color=blue]
>
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> It is hard to tell from your pictures because the object you are pointing to
>> are so washed out.
>>
>> Go to your local Toyota dealer and ask them to show you the location on the
>> parts computer. While you are at it, you can ask for a price for a new one.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>> <omnineko@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1158251833.753055.95470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Alright, so I read a few other threads about finding the location of
>> > the resistor pack. I checked the fan assembly and didn't see it there
>> > (also, I don't see any wires or connectors that would lead to the
>> > resistor pack). I looked on this website:
>> >
>> > [url]http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Blower.shtml#BlowerResistor[/url]
>> >
>> > And wasn't able to figure out what picture one is showing. However, I
>> > do not see anywhere underneath the glovebox compartment where it could
>> > be. I checked at the firewall and well, can't really see much of it
>> > from the interior of the car.
>> >
>> > Any more ideas?
>> >
>> > [email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
>> >> I did a little reading around on some other forums and stumbled upon
>> >> something called a "thermal overload relay." I was trying to find
>> >> pictures of this but really haven't found anything. Is it possible that
>> >> the white mystery block is a thermal overload relay? Could this be the
>> >> cause of my failed blower speeds?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> [email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
>> >> > Anyone have an idea of what it is? In mystery-block1.jpg, if you look
>> >> > to the right of the connectors for the block, you will see that the
>> >> > copper has been burned away from its connection. If this isn't the
>> >> > resistor pack, any ideas to what it is and what effects may be caused
>> >> > from the bad connection?
>> >> >
>> >> > Hachiroku wrote:
>> >> > > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:55:30 -0700, omnineko wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > OK, so previously I posted a thread about my blower only working
>> >> > > > when
>> >> > > > set to "HI." Many of you pointed me to a thread about an '86 Supra
>> >> > > > with
>> >> > > > the same issue. Within the thread, it said that it was because the
>> >> > > > resistor pack had been burned out due to the extreme temperatures
>> >> > > > that
>> >> > > > it is exposed to.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > I have tried to find this resistor pack using diagrams provided to
>> >> > > > me
>> >> > > > by Toyota. Unfortunately, I was not able to find them. I did
>> >> > > > however,
>> >> > > > locate a white block item after unscrewing it from the (insert name
>> >> > > > of
>> >> > > > large black box behind glovebox, sorry I can't remember the name).
>> >> > > > It
>> >> > > > had four wires connected to it and was screwed in with two screws.
>> >> > > > I
>> >> > > > looked at the connects on the white block and noticed that one of
>> >> > > > them
>> >> > > > had been shorted out (wasn't connected).
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Since I FINALLY got my digital camera a pair of batteries, I have
>> >> > > > pictures:
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block0.jpg[/url]
>> >> > > > Picture showing the location of where I found the block.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block1.jpg[/url]
>> >> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block2.jpg[/url]
>> >> > > > Picture showing the block after it was removed.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Now, I was hoping that this block was the resistor pack (and my
>> >> > > > reason
>> >> > > > for assuming so is because I noticed that there is copper that
>> >> > > > seemed
>> >> > > > to be burned away). And if it is not, could anyone tell me what
>> >> > > > this
>> >> > > > is?
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'm desperately trying to fix the issue with
>> >> > > > my
>> >> > > > blower. Having it be too hot and too cold anytime I run the blower
>> >> > > > is
>> >> > > > starting to be quite a bother.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Hmmmm...this is different from what I am used to seeing...but I think
>> >> > > you're a ways away from the mark.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > In my experience with the older Toys I have owned, the resistor pack
>> >> > > is IN
>> >> > > the fan cage. I believe, in the photo marked mystery-block1.jpg, in
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > background ther is a white cage marked TOYOTA, with an assy
>> >> > > #116200-8352,
>> >> > > 12V with a big S on it. This SHOULD be the fan assy. Usually, the
>> >> > > easiest
>> >> > > way to get this open is to loosen the three screws on the bottom of
>> >> > > it.
>> >> > > You can then remove the fan motor, the 'squirrel cage' that is the
>> >> > > fan,
>> >> > > the flange that attached the whole thing, and the resistor pack.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Now, my experience is 1988 and older...all my newer ones we have
>> >> > > traded
>> >> > > before it needed this repair. But, that should be where it is
>> >> > > located.
>> >> > > Perhaps someone with more recent experience may have a different
>> >> > > input,
>> >> > > but that's where they were on 4 other models I've had to do this to.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Good luck...
>> >[/color][/color][/color]

Actually, it was extremely easy to get out. Once I found it (located on
the front and top part of the evaporator box), I just loosened two
screws and pulled it out. Then, to solve the issue as I said earlier, I
just bent the copper over the other connector it was supposed to
connect to. If this option fails, I guess I will go and buy a new
resistor pack but for now, it's a little nice to save some more money
(again).

Hachiroku wrote:[color=blue]
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 09:51:40 -0700, omnineko wrote:
>[color=green]
> > Yeah, I was a little afraid of that...
> >
> > BUTTTTTT...
> >
> > I GOT IT! That mysterious white block, whether or not it's a resistor
> > pack, THAT is what controls the settings for the fan speed in my car. I
> > temporarily fixed the broken copper (bent it over the terminal it
> > should've been connected to) and I now have all of my fan speeds!
> > NOW... To get a new one from the Toyota dealership.[/color]
>
>
> Ah! Thanks! Now I have a bit more knowledge!
>
> BTW, was it REAL hard to get out?
> You could try soldering it, or just reef on it so it maintains a
> connection.
> I've had 'fixes' like that work for years!
>
>[color=green]
> >
> > Ray O wrote:[color=darkred]
> >> It is hard to tell from your pictures because the object you are pointing to
> >> are so washed out.
> >>
> >> Go to your local Toyota dealer and ask them to show you the location on the
> >> parts computer. While you are at it, you can ask for a price for a new one.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ray O
> >> (correct punctuation to reply)
> >> <omnineko@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1158251833.753055.95470@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >> > Alright, so I read a few other threads about finding the location of
> >> > the resistor pack. I checked the fan assembly and didn't see it there
> >> > (also, I don't see any wires or connectors that would lead to the
> >> > resistor pack). I looked on this website:
> >> >
> >> > [url]http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/CheapTricks/Blower.shtml#BlowerResistor[/url]
> >> >
> >> > And wasn't able to figure out what picture one is showing. However, I
> >> > do not see anywhere underneath the glovebox compartment where it could
> >> > be. I checked at the firewall and well, can't really see much of it
> >> > from the interior of the car.
> >> >
> >> > Any more ideas?
> >> >
> >> > [email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
> >> >> I did a little reading around on some other forums and stumbled upon
> >> >> something called a "thermal overload relay." I was trying to find
> >> >> pictures of this but really haven't found anything. Is it possible that
> >> >> the white mystery block is a thermal overload relay? Could this be the
> >> >> cause of my failed blower speeds?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks.
> >> >>
> >> >> [email]omnineko@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
> >> >> > Anyone have an idea of what it is? In mystery-block1.jpg, if you look
> >> >> > to the right of the connectors for the block, you will see that the
> >> >> > copper has been burned away from its connection. If this isn't the
> >> >> > resistor pack, any ideas to what it is and what effects may be caused
> >> >> > from the bad connection?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hachiroku wrote:
> >> >> > > On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 15:55:30 -0700, omnineko wrote:
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > OK, so previously I posted a thread about my blower only working
> >> >> > > > when
> >> >> > > > set to "HI." Many of you pointed me to a thread about an '86 Supra
> >> >> > > > with
> >> >> > > > the same issue. Within the thread, it said that it was because the
> >> >> > > > resistor pack had been burned out due to the extreme temperatures
> >> >> > > > that
> >> >> > > > it is exposed to.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > I have tried to find this resistor pack using diagrams provided to
> >> >> > > > me
> >> >> > > > by Toyota. Unfortunately, I was not able to find them. I did
> >> >> > > > however,
> >> >> > > > locate a white block item after unscrewing it from the (insert name
> >> >> > > > of
> >> >> > > > large black box behind glovebox, sorry I can't remember the name).
> >> >> > > > It
> >> >> > > > had four wires connected to it and was screwed in with two screws.
> >> >> > > > I
> >> >> > > > looked at the connects on the white block and noticed that one of
> >> >> > > > them
> >> >> > > > had been shorted out (wasn't connected).
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Since I FINALLY got my digital camera a pair of batteries, I have
> >> >> > > > pictures:
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block0.jpg[/url]
> >> >> > > > Picture showing the location of where I found the block.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block1.jpg[/url]
> >> >> > > > [url]http://www.voteneko.com/mysteryblock/mystery-block2.jpg[/url]
> >> >> > > > Picture showing the block after it was removed.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > Now, I was hoping that this block was the resistor pack (and my
> >> >> > > > reason
> >> >> > > > for assuming so is because I noticed that there is copper that
> >> >> > > > seemed
> >> >> > > > to be burned away). And if it is not, could anyone tell me what
> >> >> > > > this
> >> >> > > > is?
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > THANK YOU, THANK YOU. I'm desperately trying to fix the issue with
> >> >> > > > my
> >> >> > > > blower. Having it be too hot and too cold anytime I run the blower
> >> >> > > > is
> >> >> > > > starting to be quite a bother.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Hmmmm...this is different from what I am used to seeing...but I think
> >> >> > > you're a ways away from the mark.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > In my experience with the older Toys I have owned, the resistor pack
> >> >> > > is IN
> >> >> > > the fan cage. I believe, in the photo marked mystery-block1.jpg, in
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > background ther is a white cage marked TOYOTA, with an assy
> >> >> > > #116200-8352,
> >> >> > > 12V with a big S on it. This SHOULD be the fan assy. Usually, the
> >> >> > > easiest
> >> >> > > way to get this open is to loosen the three screws on the bottom of
> >> >> > > it.
> >> >> > > You can then remove the fan motor, the 'squirrel cage' that is the
> >> >> > > fan,
> >> >> > > the flange that attached the whole thing, and the resistor pack.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Now, my experience is 1988 and older...all my newer ones we have
> >> >> > > traded
> >> >> > > before it needed this repair. But, that should be where it is
> >> >> > > located.
> >> >> > > Perhaps someone with more recent experience may have a different
> >> >> > > input,
> >> >> > > but that's where they were on 4 other models I've had to do this to.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Good luck...
> >> >[/color][/color][/color]