1989 celica strut replacement

hey all I have a 89 celica st and need to replace the front struts. I can
only get the strut inserts around here so it looks like I am going to have
to disect the strut its self. I dont want to twist the strut shell (for lack
of better terms) but am thinking that if I put the whole strut in a vice I
will crush the shell and not get the insert out. . Any ideas on how to do
this?
THANK YOU
Steve

"seeray28(steve)" <seeray28@charter.net> wrote in message
news:ou2Og.46$Nq1.6@newsfe04.lga...[color=blue]
> hey all I have a 89 celica st and need to replace the front struts. I can
> only get the strut inserts around here so it looks like I am going to have
> to disect the strut its self. I dont want to twist the strut shell (for
> lack
> of better terms) but am thinking that if I put the whole strut in a vice I
> will crush the shell and not get the insert out. . Any ideas on how to do
> this?
> THANK YOU
> Steve
>
>[/color]

If you are talking about using a vice to remove the strut from the spring,
that is very dangerous and is likely to result in either bodily injury or
property damage. The safest way to remove the strut from the spring is with
a wall-mounted strut spring compressor.

The insert should be mounted like a shock absorber inside the assembly.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

seeray28(steve) wrote:[color=blue]
> im talking about after I remove the spring, I have the spring compressor AND[/color]

IIRC KYB make full replacement gas struts.

seeray28(steve) wrote:[color=blue]
> im talking about after I remove the spring, I have the spring compressor AND
> safety chains (you only need one spring to jump on ya and you will NEVER do
> the job without the safety chains).[/color]
========================
How do the safety chains connect?

"seeray28(steve)" <seeray28@charter.net> wrote in message
news:jIbOg.90$Nq1.48@newsfe04.lga...[color=blue]
> im talking about after I remove the spring, I have the spring compressor
> AND
> safety chains (you only need one spring to jump on ya and you will NEVER
> do
> the job without the safety chains). Apparently there is a lock nut on top
> of
> the strut housing that has to be removed before the inserts can come
> out.What I am worried about is:
> 1 destroying the housing where the lock nut screws into the housing due to
> rust and what not, so how would I go about removing the locknut ?
> 2 destroying the housing trying to hold it still so I can get the locknut
> out.
> 3 What do I do if the instert is stuck in the housing
> Im thinking about going to a junk yard and getting another set of struts
> with the inserts and rebuilding them, this way if I have to say OH SH*T I
> ahve a spare
> any and all ideas would be helpfull
> Thanks
> Steve[/color]

I think is use the penetrating oil - tap, repeat many times method to remove
the lock nut if it is rusted.

AFAIK, there are no special tricks.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)
[color=blue]
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:a4d3a$4508d8da$47c97f29$26016@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "seeray28(steve)" <seeray28@charter.net> wrote in message
>> news:ou2Og.46$Nq1.6@newsfe04.lga...[color=darkred]
>> > hey all I have a 89 celica st and need to replace the front struts. I[/color][/color]
> can[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > only get the strut inserts around here so it looks like I am going to[/color][/color]
> have[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > to disect the strut its self. I dont want to twist the strut shell (for
>> > lack
>> > of better terms) but am thinking that if I put the whole strut in a
>> > vice[/color][/color]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > will crush the shell and not get the insert out. . Any ideas on how to[/color][/color]
> do[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > this?
>> > THANK YOU
>> > Steve
>> >
>> >[/color]
>>
>> If you are talking about using a vice to remove the strut from the
>> spring,
>> that is very dangerous and is likely to result in either bodily injury or
>> property damage. The safest way to remove the strut from the spring is[/color]
> with[color=green]
>> a wall-mounted strut spring compressor.
>>
>> The insert should be mounted like a shock absorber inside the assembly.
>> --
>>
>> Ray O
>> (correct punctuation to reply)
>>
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

[email]nospampls2002@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> seeray28(steve) wrote:[color=green]
> > im talking about after I remove the spring, I have the spring compressor AND
> > safety chains (you only need one spring to jump on ya and you will NEVER do
> > the job without the safety chains).[/color]
> ========================
> How do the safety chains connect?[/color]

Never heard of it but i presume they just clip around the spring and
back to the wall/floor/other heavy object?

well after a little bit of cusssing the job went VERY EASY

THanks all
steve
"Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
news:e1c1d$45098234$44a4a10d$32086@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=blue]
>
> "seeray28(steve)" <seeray28@charter.net> wrote in message
> news:jIbOg.90$Nq1.48@newsfe04.lga...[color=green]
> > im talking about after I remove the spring, I have the spring compressor
> > AND
> > safety chains (you only need one spring to jump on ya and you will NEVER
> > do
> > the job without the safety chains). Apparently there is a lock nut on[/color][/color]
top[color=blue][color=green]
> > of
> > the strut housing that has to be removed before the inserts can come
> > out.What I am worried about is:
> > 1 destroying the housing where the lock nut screws into the housing due[/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> > rust and what not, so how would I go about removing the locknut ?
> > 2 destroying the housing trying to hold it still so I can get the[/color][/color]
locknut[color=blue][color=green]
> > out.
> > 3 What do I do if the instert is stuck in the housing
> > Im thinking about going to a junk yard and getting another set of struts
> > with the inserts and rebuilding them, this way if I have to say OH SH*T[/color][/color]
I[color=blue][color=green]
> > ahve a spare
> > any and all ideas would be helpfull
> > Thanks
> > Steve[/color]
>
> I think is use the penetrating oil - tap, repeat many times method to[/color]
remove[color=blue]
> the lock nut if it is rusted.
>
> AFAIK, there are no special tricks.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)
>[color=green]
> > "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> > news:a4d3a$4508d8da$47c97f29$26016@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=darkred]
> >>
> >> "seeray28(steve)" <seeray28@charter.net> wrote in message
> >> news:ou2Og.46$Nq1.6@newsfe04.lga...
> >> > hey all I have a 89 celica st and need to replace the front struts. I[/color]
> > can[color=darkred]
> >> > only get the strut inserts around here so it looks like I am going to[/color]
> > have[color=darkred]
> >> > to disect the strut its self. I dont want to twist the strut shell[/color][/color][/color]
(for[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> > lack
> >> > of better terms) but am thinking that if I put the whole strut in a
> >> > vice[/color]
> > I[color=darkred]
> >> > will crush the shell and not get the insert out. . Any ideas on how[/color][/color][/color]
to[color=blue][color=green]
> > do[color=darkred]
> >> > this?
> >> > THANK YOU
> >> > Steve
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> If you are talking about using a vice to remove the strut from the
> >> spring,
> >> that is very dangerous and is likely to result in either bodily injury[/color][/color][/color]
or[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
> >> property damage. The safest way to remove the strut from the spring is[/color]
> > with[color=darkred]
> >> a wall-mounted strut spring compressor.
> >>
> >> The insert should be mounted like a shock absorber inside the assembly.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ray O
> >> (correct punctuation to reply)
> >>
> >>[/color]
> >
> >[/color]
>
>[/color]

did you go yhe junkyard route?


seeray28(steve) wrote:[color=blue]
> well after a little bit of cusssing the job went VERY EASY
>
> THanks all
> steve
> "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:e1c1d$45098234$44a4a10d$32086@msgid.meganewsservers.com...[color=green]
> >
> > "seeray28(steve)" <seeray28@charter.net> wrote in message
> > news:jIbOg.90$Nq1.48@newsfe04.lga...[color=darkred]
> > > im talking about after I remove the spring, I have the spring compressor
> > > AND
> > > safety chains (you only need one spring to jump on ya and you will NEVER
> > > do
> > > the job without the safety chains). Apparently there is a lock nut on[/color][/color]
> top[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > of
> > > the strut housing that has to be removed before the inserts can come
> > > out.What I am worried about is:
> > > 1 destroying the housing where the lock nut screws into the housing due[/color][/color]
> to[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > rust and what not, so how would I go about removing the locknut ?
> > > 2 destroying the housing trying to hold it still so I can get the[/color][/color]
> locknut[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > out.
> > > 3 What do I do if the instert is stuck in the housing
> > > Im thinking about going to a junk yard and getting another set of struts
> > > with the inserts and rebuilding them, this way if I have to say OH SH*T[/color][/color]
> I[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > ahve a spare
> > > any and all ideas would be helpfull
> > > Thanks
> > > Steve[/color]
> >
> > I think is use the penetrating oil - tap, repeat many times method to[/color]
> remove[color=green]
> > the lock nut if it is rusted.
> >
> > AFAIK, there are no special tricks.
> > --
> >
> > Ray O
> > (correct punctuation to reply)
> >[color=darkred]
> > > "Ray O" <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote in message
> > > news:a4d3a$4508d8da$47c97f29$26016@msgid.meganewsservers.com...
> > >>
> > >> "seeray28(steve)" <seeray28@charter.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:ou2Og.46$Nq1.6@newsfe04.lga...
> > >> > hey all I have a 89 celica st and need to replace the front struts. I
> > > can
> > >> > only get the strut inserts around here so it looks like I am going to
> > > have
> > >> > to disect the strut its self. I dont want to twist the strut shell[/color][/color]
> (for[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >> > lack
> > >> > of better terms) but am thinking that if I put the whole strut in a
> > >> > vice
> > > I
> > >> > will crush the shell and not get the insert out. . Any ideas on how[/color][/color]
> to[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > do
> > >> > this?
> > >> > THANK YOU
> > >> > Steve
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> If you are talking about using a vice to remove the strut from the
> > >> spring,
> > >> that is very dangerous and is likely to result in either bodily injury[/color][/color]
> or[color=green][color=darkred]
> > >> property damage. The safest way to remove the strut from the spring is
> > > with
> > >> a wall-mounted strut spring compressor.
> > >>
> > >> The insert should be mounted like a shock absorber inside the assembly.
> > >> --
> > >>
> > >> Ray O
> > >> (correct punctuation to reply)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >[/color]
> >
> >[/color][/color]