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Old 09-20-2006, 11:18 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Overdid it today!


"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:wokQg.5939$_k1.677@trndny01...[color=blue]
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 02:38:49 +0000, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:17:21 -0500, "Ray O"
>> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>"Bruce L. Bergman" <blPYTHONbergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
>>>news:3ltug214940q3tru6d9umh7rat3k2de2b9@4ax.com...
>>>> On Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:19:15 -0500, "Ray O"
>>>> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:[/color]
>>[color=darkred]
>>>The oil-less compressors were just coming out when I got my compressor
>>>around 20 years ago, and since they were so new, I stuck to conventional
>>>(at
>>>that time) oil-lube compressor. I use my compressor quite a bit for
>>>everything from blowing off the lawnmower to filling tires to air tools.
>>>
>>>The only thing I don't like about the compressor is the oily mess when I
>>>drain the tank.[/color]
>>
>> So put a hose on the tank drain and aim it into a bucket of kitty
>> litter. The water evaporates and the clay absorbs the oil nicely for
>> easy disposal.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> If you have the room, get a belt-drive "old-style" unit with the
>>>> horizontal tank, the slower compressor RPM adds to the longevity. The
>>>> direct drive 1725 RPM units are a lot noisier, too.
>>>
>>>Does the horizontal tank have an advantage over a vertical one or are you
>>>talking just about the belt drive configuration? BTW, how long do those
>>>belts last? I've never done any maintenance or repairs to the compressor
>>>other than draining the tank and refilling the oil.[/color]
>>
>> I was talking about the belt between motor and pump. For small
>> units with the 14 to 20-gallon tanks, they're usually horizontal.
>>
>> Belt drive lets them use a more efficient 3600 RPM motor and gear it
>> down with the pulleys for a compressor head that would rather see 600
>> - 900 RPM for long life and better volumetric efficiency.
>>
>> Direct drives have to run the compressor head at either 1800 or 3600
>> RPM in lock-step with the motor, which is not the preferred way to go.
>> You have to go with smaller pistons and/or shorter crank throws, and
>> it's harder to dissipate heat.
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>>The plastic cover on the trigger for my impact gun broke off so it kind
>>>>>of
>>>>>hurts to use my impact gun. It was a free sample and still works, but
>>>>>now
>>>>>I have an excuse for a new one!
>>>>
>>>> Depending on who made it, those molded rubber grip sections are
>>>> available as replacement parts. Or go get a set of the special
>>>> "anti-vibration" gloves with the gel pads in the palms and
>>>> second-knuckle areas of the fingers.
>>>
>>>The brand name on the gun is Fuji, which I've never heard of here in the
>>>U.S. I got it from my dad, who says that company supplies them to
>>>factories. The guns supposedly can be calibrated to apply accurate
>>>torque
>>>over many uses. The instructions were in Japanese and I never bothered
>>>to
>>>ask someone to translate for me. I like the gun because it is
>>>relatively
>>>light and it doesn't over-torque alloy wheels. I don't like the gun
>>>because
>>>it is relatively gutless at removing stubborn bolts that someone with one
>>>of
>>>those monster impact guns torqued.[/color]
>>
>> Time to do a web search for Fuji, finds a parts list, and order one.
>> You can get a new monster gun for doing lug nuts and crank pulleys if
>> you want, but there are times when finesse beats brute strength.
>>
>> Plus, Murphy's Law says the tool breaks 5 minutes after you could
>> possibly get to the last store in the area that sells them before they
>> close - and the car HAS to be on the road tomorrow morning...
>>[color=darkred]
>>>> 90 CFM? Refer to that Body Shop above, with the twin 15 HP units....
>>>
>>>Oops! typo! I meant 9 CFM.[/color]
>>
>> Yeah, Right, Suuuuuuuure ya did... ;-P
>>[color=darkred]
>>>My compressor is Craftsman brand, listed as 220V, 5 HP 30 gallon single
>>>stage. I don't know who made it. It is fine for air ratchets and impact
>>>guns but it runs quite a bit when I use a cutoff tool or die grinder.[/color]
>>
>> If you have a "5 Sears Horsepower" unit, it is probably a 2-HP or
>> possibly a 3-HP unit - check the nameplate for the running amps to
>> divine the true HP ratings. Sears has had to correct their
>> literature, electric motors are supposed to be rated at Full Load
>> Current, not the bigger and more impressive sounding Stall Current
>> rating Sears wanted to use...
>>
>> According to the NEC, 2-HP is 12A at 230V. 3-HP is 17A at 230V,
>> 5-HP is 28A at 230V for a single-phase motor. Real 5-Horse units need
>> a magnetic motor starter, the pressure switch contacts can't switch
>> that much juice reliably.
>>
>> Look at the motor nameplate and Century Electric Motors refuses to
>> lie about it, they just mark the HP Rating box as "Special" - any HP
>> claims made are not theirs.
>>
>> --<< Bruce >>--[/color]
>
>
> Man, I'll be DIPPED!
>
> Sears has a compressor on sale for $279, all the pressure I would need
> (6SCFM@40PSI, 4SCFM@90PSI) WITH a 24 piece tool kit, including an Impact
> wrench and a socket wrench!
>
> DAMN!
>[/color]

Sounds like a pretty good deal!
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


 
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:06 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Overdid it today!

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:45:32 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:

[color=blue]
>Man, I'll be DIPPED!
>
>Sears has a compressor on sale for $279, all the pressure I would need
>(6SCFM @ 40PSI, 4SCFM @ 90PSI) WITH a 24 piece tool kit, including an
>Impact wrench and a socket wrench!
>
>DAMN![/color]

4CFM at 90 is only a 1-HP unit - plenty for running one framing or
two finish nailers, but not for doing real work with shop tools.

It's enough to run that impact wrench in short bursts. But you have
to pause after breaking loose every lug nut, and then wait quite a
while between running each loose lugnut off the threads. And forget
about a bead blaster.

If you want to buy it once and keep it for a while, look for 2-HP
minimum, oil-lube.

--<< Bruce >>--

 
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