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Old 09-22-2006, 08:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thoughts on Compressors...

Last weekend, working on my POS Grand Voyager, it was 90 degrees, I had a sh!tty jack,
and the lug nuts were damn near frozen on the thing. I think it's time to
go to Air tools!

I have purchased a couple of tools on EBay, they work well, but I haven't bought a
compressor yet. Bear in mind, most of my work is light duty, but I do some
body work and occasionally painting (how much, I don't know...I guess it
depends on how much the neighbors can stand the smell...I bet the one who
will complain the most is the one that burns his smelly garbage every
weekend...)

So, I am looking for something inexpensive but durable. OF COURSE, after I paid for
the air tools, Sears goes and puts one of their better home compressors on
sale with a complete kit of tools (one is the same as the one I just
bought!) for $279. It has mostly good reviews.

Any other thoughts as to what would be a good, inexpensive compressor
that's going to get used once or twice every two months. At least, until
next spring, when I start the rust removal on my Supra... ?

Sears has the one for $279.99 with the tool kit, and Lowe's has one for
$199.99 about the same, but I don't think the SCFM rating is high enough
for some of the tools I plan on running.

I am shying away from oiled models since I don't want the expense of an
oil trap.

I looked on EBay but with shipping...

Plus, I anticipate, buying it NEW with the small amount of use it will
get, it should last a LONG time...


 
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Old 09-22-2006, 02:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:ZZRQg.6$Bp3.5@trndny07...[color=blue]
> Last weekend, working on my POS Grand Voyager, it was 90 degrees, I had a sh!tty jack,
> and the lug nuts were damn near frozen on the thing. I think it's time to
> go to Air tools!
>
> I have purchased a couple of tools on EBay, they work well, but I haven't bought a
> compressor yet. Bear in mind, most of my work is light duty, but I do some
> body work and occasionally painting (how much, I don't know...I guess it
> depends on how much the neighbors can stand the smell...I bet the one who
> will complain the most is the one that burns his smelly garbage every
> weekend...)
>
> So, I am looking for something inexpensive but durable. OF COURSE, after I paid for
> the air tools, Sears goes and puts one of their better home compressors on
> sale with a complete kit of tools (one is the same as the one I just
> bought!) for $279. It has mostly good reviews.
>
> Any other thoughts as to what would be a good, inexpensive compressor
> that's going to get used once or twice every two months. At least, until
> next spring, when I start the rust removal on my Supra... ?
>
> Sears has the one for $279.99 with the tool kit, and Lowe's has one for
> $199.99 about the same, but I don't think the SCFM rating is high enough
> for some of the tools I plan on running.
>
> I am shying away from oiled models since I don't want the expense of an
> oil trap.
>
> I looked on EBay but with shipping...
>
> Plus, I anticipate, buying it NEW with the small amount of use it will
> get, it should last a LONG time...
>
>[/color]


Stuff like the size and portability issue's are probably what's important. That
and maybe the CFM if your needs are high.

Like say my air compressor would suck if it had to be moved.
Its really old, big, tuff and heavy heavy duty. But its out behind the garage
in a sound absorbing shed. With the power switched in my shop and hard piped.

Construction sites usually use gas powered models but that be a poor
choice if your a painter.


GL
Dan


 
Old 09-22-2006, 02:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:ZZRQg.6$Bp3.5@trndny07...[color=blue]
> Last weekend, working on my POS Grand Voyager, it was 90 degrees, I had a
> sh!tty jack,
> and the lug nuts were damn near frozen on the thing. I think it's time to
> go to Air tools!
>
> I have purchased a couple of tools on EBay, they work well, but I haven't
> bought a
> compressor yet. Bear in mind, most of my work is light duty, but I do some
> body work and occasionally painting (how much, I don't know...I guess it
> depends on how much the neighbors can stand the smell...I bet the one who
> will complain the most is the one that burns his smelly garbage every
> weekend...)
>
> So, I am looking for something inexpensive but durable. OF COURSE, after I
> paid for
> the air tools, Sears goes and puts one of their better home compressors on
> sale with a complete kit of tools (one is the same as the one I just
> bought!) for $279. It has mostly good reviews.
>
> Any other thoughts as to what would be a good, inexpensive compressor
> that's going to get used once or twice every two months. At least, until
> next spring, when I start the rust removal on my Supra... ?
>
> Sears has the one for $279.99 with the tool kit, and Lowe's has one for
> $199.99 about the same, but I don't think the SCFM rating is high enough
> for some of the tools I plan on running.
>[/color]

Get 9 or 10 SCFM (not 90 like I said before) at 90 PSI if possible. This
should be enough to occasionally use a DA sander or die grinder.
[color=blue]
> I am shying away from oiled models since I don't want the expense of an
> oil trap.[/color]

I have not actually changed the oil in my oiled compressor - I just
replenish it every so often. When I drain condensate out of the tank, the
stuff that comes out looks like a milkshake, and I just dump it in with my
used engine oil to get rid of it.[color=blue]
>
> I looked on EBay but with shipping...
>
> Plus, I anticipate, buying it NEW with the small amount of use it will
> get, it should last a LONG time...
>[/color]

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Old 09-22-2006, 03:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:10:22 +0000, Danny G. wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:ZZRQg.6$Bp3.5@trndny07...[color=green]
>> Last weekend, working on my POS Grand Voyager, it was 90 degrees, I had a sh!tty jack,
>> and the lug nuts were damn near frozen on the thing. I think it's time to
>> go to Air tools!
>>
>> I have purchased a couple of tools on EBay, they work well, but I haven't bought a
>> compressor yet. Bear in mind, most of my work is light duty, but I do some
>> body work and occasionally painting (how much, I don't know...I guess it
>> depends on how much the neighbors can stand the smell...I bet the one who
>> will complain the most is the one that burns his smelly garbage every
>> weekend...)
>>
>> So, I am looking for something inexpensive but durable. OF COURSE, after I paid for
>> the air tools, Sears goes and puts one of their better home compressors on
>> sale with a complete kit of tools (one is the same as the one I just
>> bought!) for $279. It has mostly good reviews.
>>
>> Any other thoughts as to what would be a good, inexpensive compressor
>> that's going to get used once or twice every two months. At least, until
>> next spring, when I start the rust removal on my Supra... ?
>>
>> Sears has the one for $279.99 with the tool kit, and Lowe's has one for
>> $199.99 about the same, but I don't think the SCFM rating is high enough
>> for some of the tools I plan on running.
>>
>> I am shying away from oiled models since I don't want the expense of an
>> oil trap.
>>
>> I looked on EBay but with shipping...
>>
>> Plus, I anticipate, buying it NEW with the small amount of use it will
>> get, it should last a LONG time...
>>
>>[/color]
>
>
> Stuff like the size and portability issue's are probably what's important. That
> and maybe the CFM if your needs are high.
>
> Like say my air compressor would suck if it had to be moved.
> Its really old, big, tuff and heavy heavy duty. But its out behind the garage
> in a sound absorbing shed. With the power switched in my shop and hard piped.
>
> Construction sites usually use gas powered models but that be a poor
> choice if your a painter.
>
>
> GL
> Dan[/color]


Air wrenches and normal tools are OK, any 4-6 SCFM compressor would work
fine.
The grinders and the spray guns are the worst. Even an HVLP gravity gun
likes a minimum of 5SCFM to operate properly. 6 to 7 is better.

Grinders are also air hogs, and only run well at 90PSI or above.

Home Depot has a Coleman for $300 that should handle anything.

Maybe I'll luck out and there will be a tag sale somewhere this weekend...

 
Old 09-22-2006, 10:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:2zXQg.19$Dq3.1@trndny06...[color=blue]
> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:10:22 +0000, Danny G. wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:ZZRQg.6$Bp3.5@trndny07...[color=darkred]
>>> Last weekend, working on my POS Grand Voyager, it was 90 degrees, I had a sh!tty jack,
>>> and the lug nuts were damn near frozen on the thing. I think it's time to
>>> go to Air tools!
>>>
>>> I have purchased a couple of tools on EBay, they work well, but I haven't bought a
>>> compressor yet. Bear in mind, most of my work is light duty, but I do some
>>> body work and occasionally painting (how much, I don't know...I guess it
>>> depends on how much the neighbors can stand the smell...I bet the one who
>>> will complain the most is the one that burns his smelly garbage every
>>> weekend...)
>>>
>>> So, I am looking for something inexpensive but durable. OF COURSE, after I paid for
>>> the air tools, Sears goes and puts one of their better home compressors on
>>> sale with a complete kit of tools (one is the same as the one I just
>>> bought!) for $279. It has mostly good reviews.
>>>
>>> Any other thoughts as to what would be a good, inexpensive compressor
>>> that's going to get used once or twice every two months. At least, until
>>> next spring, when I start the rust removal on my Supra... ?
>>>
>>> Sears has the one for $279.99 with the tool kit, and Lowe's has one for
>>> $199.99 about the same, but I don't think the SCFM rating is high enough
>>> for some of the tools I plan on running.
>>>
>>> I am shying away from oiled models since I don't want the expense of an
>>> oil trap.
>>>
>>> I looked on EBay but with shipping...
>>>
>>> Plus, I anticipate, buying it NEW with the small amount of use it will
>>> get, it should last a LONG time...
>>>
>>>[/color]
>>
>>
>> Stuff like the size and portability issue's are probably what's important. That
>> and maybe the CFM if your needs are high.
>>
>> Like say my air compressor would suck if it had to be moved.
>> Its really old, big, tuff and heavy heavy duty. But its out behind the garage
>> in a sound absorbing shed. With the power switched in my shop and hard piped.
>>
>> Construction sites usually use gas powered models but that be a poor
>> choice if your a painter.
>>
>>
>> GL
>> Dan[/color]
>
>
> Air wrenches and normal tools are OK, any 4-6 SCFM compressor would work
> fine.
> The grinders and the spray guns are the worst. Even an HVLP gravity gun
> likes a minimum of 5SCFM to operate properly. 6 to 7 is better.
>
> Grinders are also air hogs, and only run well at 90PSI or above.
>
> Home Depot has a Coleman for $300 that should handle anything.
>
> Maybe I'll luck out and there will be a tag sale somewhere this weekend...
>[/color]

The upright models are nice if you don't need portability and have a small footprint.

Dan


 
Old 09-23-2006, 06:47 PM   #6 (permalink)
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:07:50 +0000, Danny G. wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:2zXQg.19$Dq3.1@trndny06...[color=green]
>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:10:22 +0000, Danny G. wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message news:ZZRQg.6$Bp3.5@trndny07...
>>>> Last weekend, working on my POS Grand Voyager, it was 90 degrees, I had a sh!tty jack,
>>>> and the lug nuts were damn near frozen on the thing. I think it's time to
>>>> go to Air tools!
>>>>
>>>> I have purchased a couple of tools on EBay, they work well, but I haven't bought a
>>>> compressor yet. Bear in mind, most of my work is light duty, but I do some
>>>> body work and occasionally painting (how much, I don't know...I guess it
>>>> depends on how much the neighbors can stand the smell...I bet the one who
>>>> will complain the most is the one that burns his smelly garbage every
>>>> weekend...)
>>>>
>>>> So, I am looking for something inexpensive but durable. OF COURSE, after I paid for
>>>> the air tools, Sears goes and puts one of their better home compressors on
>>>> sale with a complete kit of tools (one is the same as the one I just
>>>> bought!) for $279. It has mostly good reviews.
>>>>
>>>> Any other thoughts as to what would be a good, inexpensive compressor
>>>> that's going to get used once or twice every two months. At least, until
>>>> next spring, when I start the rust removal on my Supra... ?
>>>>
>>>> Sears has the one for $279.99 with the tool kit, and Lowe's has one for
>>>> $199.99 about the same, but I don't think the SCFM rating is high enough
>>>> for some of the tools I plan on running.
>>>>
>>>> I am shying away from oiled models since I don't want the expense of an
>>>> oil trap.
>>>>
>>>> I looked on EBay but with shipping...
>>>>
>>>> Plus, I anticipate, buying it NEW with the small amount of use it will
>>>> get, it should last a LONG time...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stuff like the size and portability issue's are probably what's important. That
>>> and maybe the CFM if your needs are high.
>>>
>>> Like say my air compressor would suck if it had to be moved.
>>> Its really old, big, tuff and heavy heavy duty. But its out behind the garage
>>> in a sound absorbing shed. With the power switched in my shop and hard piped.
>>>
>>> Construction sites usually use gas powered models but that be a poor
>>> choice if your a painter.
>>>
>>>
>>> GL
>>> Dan[/color]
>>
>>
>> Air wrenches and normal tools are OK, any 4-6 SCFM compressor would work
>> fine.
>> The grinders and the spray guns are the worst. Even an HVLP gravity gun
>> likes a minimum of 5SCFM to operate properly. 6 to 7 is better.
>>
>> Grinders are also air hogs, and only run well at 90PSI or above.
>>
>> Home Depot has a Coleman for $300 that should handle anything.
>>
>> Maybe I'll luck out and there will be a tag sale somewhere this weekend...
>>[/color]
>
> The upright models are nice if you don't need portability and have a small footprint.
>
> Dan[/color]


Well, I wear 10 1/2 to 11 NBs...


I looked today. A D/A needs 6-7 SCFM @ 90 PSI!!! DAMN! That's Shop air!

I want it to run wrenches, but I also want to do up my Supra over the
winter and in the early spring. Grinders and D/As are the worst
offernders, and all the compressors I saw were rated by 'colors'; green
for the air wrenches, yellow for the spray gune (intermittant use only)
and RED for grinders and D/As...

I guess I have to hunt some more...I really want to be able to use a
grinder and a D/A...

The odd thing is, the D/A said 5-6 SCFM @ 90 PSI; the compressors I was
looking at said 5.7 SCFM @ 90, and yet they were still marked as not for
use with a D/A!!!

 
Old 09-23-2006, 07:57 PM   #7 (permalink)
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:OIjRg.177$8U2.70@trndny08...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:07:50 +0000, Danny G. wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:2zXQg.19$Dq3.1@trndny06...[color=darkred]
>>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:10:22 +0000, Danny G. wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>>> news:ZZRQg.6$Bp3.5@trndny07...
>>>>> Last weekend, working on my POS Grand Voyager, it was 90 degrees, I
>>>>> had a sh!tty jack,
>>>>> and the lug nuts were damn near frozen on the thing. I think it's time
>>>>> to
>>>>> go to Air tools!
>>>>>
>>>>> I have purchased a couple of tools on EBay, they work well, but I
>>>>> haven't bought a
>>>>> compressor yet. Bear in mind, most of my work is light duty, but I do
>>>>> some
>>>>> body work and occasionally painting (how much, I don't know...I guess
>>>>> it
>>>>> depends on how much the neighbors can stand the smell...I bet the one
>>>>> who
>>>>> will complain the most is the one that burns his smelly garbage every
>>>>> weekend...)
>>>>>
>>>>> So, I am looking for something inexpensive but durable. OF COURSE,
>>>>> after I paid for
>>>>> the air tools, Sears goes and puts one of their better home
>>>>> compressors on
>>>>> sale with a complete kit of tools (one is the same as the one I just
>>>>> bought!) for $279. It has mostly good reviews.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any other thoughts as to what would be a good, inexpensive compressor
>>>>> that's going to get used once or twice every two months. At least,
>>>>> until
>>>>> next spring, when I start the rust removal on my Supra... ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sears has the one for $279.99 with the tool kit, and Lowe's has one
>>>>> for
>>>>> $199.99 about the same, but I don't think the SCFM rating is high
>>>>> enough
>>>>> for some of the tools I plan on running.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am shying away from oiled models since I don't want the expense of
>>>>> an
>>>>> oil trap.
>>>>>
>>>>> I looked on EBay but with shipping...
>>>>>
>>>>> Plus, I anticipate, buying it NEW with the small amount of use it will
>>>>> get, it should last a LONG time...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Stuff like the size and portability issue's are probably what's
>>>> important. That
>>>> and maybe the CFM if your needs are high.
>>>>
>>>> Like say my air compressor would suck if it had to be moved.
>>>> Its really old, big, tuff and heavy heavy duty. But its out behind the
>>>> garage
>>>> in a sound absorbing shed. With the power switched in my shop and hard
>>>> piped.
>>>>
>>>> Construction sites usually use gas powered models but that be a poor
>>>> choice if your a painter.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> GL
>>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>> Air wrenches and normal tools are OK, any 4-6 SCFM compressor would work
>>> fine.
>>> The grinders and the spray guns are the worst. Even an HVLP gravity gun
>>> likes a minimum of 5SCFM to operate properly. 6 to 7 is better.
>>>
>>> Grinders are also air hogs, and only run well at 90PSI or above.
>>>
>>> Home Depot has a Coleman for $300 that should handle anything.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'll luck out and there will be a tag sale somewhere this
>>> weekend...
>>>[/color]
>>
>> The upright models are nice if you don't need portability and have a
>> small footprint.
>>
>> Dan[/color]
>
>
> Well, I wear 10 1/2 to 11 NBs...
>
>
> I looked today. A D/A needs 6-7 SCFM @ 90 PSI!!! DAMN! That's Shop air!
>
> I want it to run wrenches, but I also want to do up my Supra over the
> winter and in the early spring. Grinders and D/As are the worst
> offernders, and all the compressors I saw were rated by 'colors'; green
> for the air wrenches, yellow for the spray gune (intermittant use only)
> and RED for grinders and D/As...
>
> I guess I have to hunt some more...I really want to be able to use a
> grinder and a D/A...
>
> The odd thing is, the D/A said 5-6 SCFM @ 90 PSI; the compressors I was
> looking at said 5.7 SCFM @ 90, and yet they were still marked as not for
> use with a D/A!!!
>[/color]

I saw the Sears compressor and tool kit on sale for $279.99 today. I didn't
look at the specs, but the compressor head looks like it is a lot smaller
than the one on my compressor. My compressor is rated (by Sears) at 12 SCFM
@ 40 PSI, 10 SCFM @ 90 PSI on 220V power. Although my angle die grinder
works fine, the compressor does tend to run quite a bit when I'm using it.
I have a sand blaster and paint gun but have not used them in a long time.
Most of the time, I use the compressor to dust stuff off, fill tires, and
run the air ratchet and impact. If you want to use a DA or grinder, I
recommend one with at least the same capacity as mine, or even a bigger tank
(mine is 30 gal.).
--

Ray O
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:10 AM   #8 (permalink)
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 23:47:58 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:

[color=blue]
>I looked today. A D/A needs 6-7 SCFM @ 90 PSI!!! DAMN! That's Shop air!
>
>I want it to run wrenches, but I also want to do up my Supra over the
>winter and in the early spring. Grinders and D/As are the worst
>offernders, and all the compressors I saw were rated by 'colors'; green
>for the air wrenches, yellow for the spray gune (intermittant use only)
>and RED for grinders and D/As...
>
>I guess I have to hunt some more...I really want to be able to use a
>grinder and a D/A...
>
>The odd thing is, the D/A said 5-6 SCFM @ 90 PSI; the compressors I was
>looking at said 5.7 SCFM @ 90, and yet they were still marked as not for
>use with a D/A!!![/color]

If the tool air consumption ratings are close to or slightly over
the compressor output ratings, it will still work. It just means you
can't nail down the handle on the sander and go non-stop.

You have to get off the trigger when you are repositioning the
sander, checking how the surface is progressing, or when you hear the
air motor slowing down as the tank pressure drops off. That will give
the compressor a minute to catch up.

I just popped a power panel out of a stucco wall with an air chisel
that "shouldn't be running" on a 2-HP 4-gallon portable - you just use
it in short bursts instead of constant. Stop and sweep up the mess,
and give the compressor a few minutes to cool off.

And shop carefully for your tools, check the specs. The brand-name
air tools like Ingersoll-Rand cost a bit more up front, but are
usually a little more frugal with your air supply - compared to some
of the No-Name Harbor Fright specials, they can be a LOT more frugal.
And as a bonus, they live longer under hard use, and often work better
- check the stroke length on the sanders.

--<< Bruce >>--

 
Old 09-24-2006, 10:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:57:54 -0500, Ray O wrote:
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:OIjRg.177$8U2.70@trndny08...[color=green]
>> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 03:07:50 +0000, Danny G. wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>> news:2zXQg.19$Dq3.1@trndny06...
>>>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:10:22 +0000, Danny G. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ZZRQg.6$Bp3.5@trndny07...
>>>>>> Last weekend, working on my POS Grand Voyager, it was 90 degrees, I
>>>>>> had a sh!tty jack,
>>>>>> and the lug nuts were damn near frozen on the thing. I think it's time
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> go to Air tools!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have purchased a couple of tools on EBay, they work well, but I
>>>>>> haven't bought a
>>>>>> compressor yet. Bear in mind, most of my work is light duty, but I do
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> body work and occasionally painting (how much, I don't know...I guess
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> depends on how much the neighbors can stand the smell...I bet the one
>>>>>> who
>>>>>> will complain the most is the one that burns his smelly garbage every
>>>>>> weekend...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I am looking for something inexpensive but durable. OF COURSE,
>>>>>> after I paid for
>>>>>> the air tools, Sears goes and puts one of their better home
>>>>>> compressors on
>>>>>> sale with a complete kit of tools (one is the same as the one I just
>>>>>> bought!) for $279. It has mostly good reviews.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any other thoughts as to what would be a good, inexpensive compressor
>>>>>> that's going to get used once or twice every two months. At least,
>>>>>> until
>>>>>> next spring, when I start the rust removal on my Supra... ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sears has the one for $279.99 with the tool kit, and Lowe's has one
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> $199.99 about the same, but I don't think the SCFM rating is high
>>>>>> enough
>>>>>> for some of the tools I plan on running.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am shying away from oiled models since I don't want the expense of
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> oil trap.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I looked on EBay but with shipping...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Plus, I anticipate, buying it NEW with the small amount of use it will
>>>>>> get, it should last a LONG time...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stuff like the size and portability issue's are probably what's
>>>>> important. That
>>>>> and maybe the CFM if your needs are high.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like say my air compressor would suck if it had to be moved.
>>>>> Its really old, big, tuff and heavy heavy duty. But its out behind the
>>>>> garage
>>>>> in a sound absorbing shed. With the power switched in my shop and hard
>>>>> piped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Construction sites usually use gas powered models but that be a poor
>>>>> choice if your a painter.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> GL
>>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Air wrenches and normal tools are OK, any 4-6 SCFM compressor would work
>>>> fine.
>>>> The grinders and the spray guns are the worst. Even an HVLP gravity gun
>>>> likes a minimum of 5SCFM to operate properly. 6 to 7 is better.
>>>>
>>>> Grinders are also air hogs, and only run well at 90PSI or above.
>>>>
>>>> Home Depot has a Coleman for $300 that should handle anything.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'll luck out and there will be a tag sale somewhere this
>>>> weekend...
>>>>
>>>
>>> The upright models are nice if you don't need portability and have a
>>> small footprint.
>>>
>>> Dan[/color]
>>
>>
>> Well, I wear 10 1/2 to 11 NBs...
>>
>>
>> I looked today. A D/A needs 6-7 SCFM @ 90 PSI!!! DAMN! That's Shop air!
>>
>> I want it to run wrenches, but I also want to do up my Supra over the
>> winter and in the early spring. Grinders and D/As are the worst
>> offernders, and all the compressors I saw were rated by 'colors'; green
>> for the air wrenches, yellow for the spray gune (intermittant use only)
>> and RED for grinders and D/As...
>>
>> I guess I have to hunt some more...I really want to be able to use a
>> grinder and a D/A...
>>
>> The odd thing is, the D/A said 5-6 SCFM @ 90 PSI; the compressors I was
>> looking at said 5.7 SCFM @ 90, and yet they were still marked as not for
>> use with a D/A!!!
>>[/color]
>
> I saw the Sears compressor and tool kit on sale for $279.99 today. I didn't
> look at the specs, but the compressor head looks like it is a lot smaller
> than the one on my compressor. My compressor is rated (by Sears) at 12 SCFM
> @ 40 PSI, 10 SCFM @ 90 PSI on 220V power. Although my angle die grinder
> works fine, the compressor does tend to run quite a bit when I'm using it.
> I have a sand blaster and paint gun but have not used them in a long time.
> Most of the time, I use the compressor to dust stuff off, fill tires, and
> run the air ratchet and impact. If you want to use a DA or grinder, I
> recommend one with at least the same capacity as mine, or even a bigger tank
> (mine is 30 gal.).[/color]


Bruce AND Ray:

Yeah, I've been looking around. I was hoping to get out cheap (<$300) but
it looks like I have to go up a little. These is a Craftsman at about
$300 that has a 33 gallon tank and is rated @ 8.6@40 and 6.4@90.

If I shop wisely for tools like Bruce said, I should be able to pull this
off OK...
 
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:57:54 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>[/color]
<snipped>[color=blue][color=green]
>> I saw the Sears compressor and tool kit on sale for $279.99 today. I
>> didn't
>> look at the specs, but the compressor head looks like it is a lot smaller
>> than the one on my compressor. My compressor is rated (by Sears) at 12
>> SCFM
>> @ 40 PSI, 10 SCFM @ 90 PSI on 220V power. Although my angle die grinder
>> works fine, the compressor does tend to run quite a bit when I'm using
>> it.
>> I have a sand blaster and paint gun but have not used them in a long
>> time.
>> Most of the time, I use the compressor to dust stuff off, fill tires, and
>> run the air ratchet and impact. If you want to use a DA or grinder, I
>> recommend one with at least the same capacity as mine, or even a bigger
>> tank
>> (mine is 30 gal.).[/color]
>
>
> Bruce AND Ray:
>
> Yeah, I've been looking around. I was hoping to get out cheap (<$300) but
> it looks like I have to go up a little. These is a Craftsman at about
> $300 that has a 33 gallon tank and is rated @ 8.6@40 and 6.4@90.
>
> If I shop wisely for tools like Bruce said, I should be able to pull this
> off OK...[/color]

I purchased a Ingersoll-Rand angle die grinder and a Harbor Freight brand
rotary cutoff tool at Harbor Freight. I'm much happier with the quality of
the Ingersoll Rand tool. I bought a cheap cutoff tool because I don't use
it very often, but even so, I which I had purchased a little better quality.
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On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:55:39 -0500, Ray O wrote:
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>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:djxRg.2318$SD5.1438@trndny01...[color=green]
>> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:57:54 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>[/color]
> <snipped>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>> I saw the Sears compressor and tool kit on sale for $279.99 today. I
>>> didn't
>>> look at the specs, but the compressor head looks like it is a lot smaller
>>> than the one on my compressor. My compressor is rated (by Sears) at 12
>>> SCFM
>>> @ 40 PSI, 10 SCFM @ 90 PSI on 220V power. Although my angle die grinder
>>> works fine, the compressor does tend to run quite a bit when I'm using
>>> it.
>>> I have a sand blaster and paint gun but have not used them in a long
>>> time.
>>> Most of the time, I use the compressor to dust stuff off, fill tires, and
>>> run the air ratchet and impact. If you want to use a DA or grinder, I
>>> recommend one with at least the same capacity as mine, or even a bigger
>>> tank
>>> (mine is 30 gal.).[/color]
>>
>>
>> Bruce AND Ray:
>>
>> Yeah, I've been looking around. I was hoping to get out cheap (<$300) but
>> it looks like I have to go up a little. These is a Craftsman at about
>> $300 that has a 33 gallon tank and is rated @ 8.6@40 and 6.4@90.
>>
>> If I shop wisely for tools like Bruce said, I should be able to pull this
>> off OK...[/color]
>
> I purchased a Ingersoll-Rand angle die grinder and a Harbor Freight brand
> rotary cutoff tool at Harbor Freight. I'm much happier with the quality of
> the Ingersoll Rand tool. I bought a cheap cutoff tool because I don't use
> it very often, but even so, I which I had purchased a little better quality.[/color]


A friend of mine pointed me to Harbor Freight, but with a little patience,
you can usually find a better quality item for a few $$ more.
(HEY! Sounds like a good title for a CHEESEY Spaghetti Western!!!) ;)

 
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"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:8nHRg.4011$Zj4.488@trndny04...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:55:39 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:djxRg.2318$SD5.1438@trndny01...[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 19:57:54 -0500, Ray O wrote:
>>>[/color]
>> <snipped>[color=darkred]
>>>> I saw the Sears compressor and tool kit on sale for $279.99 today. I
>>>> didn't
>>>> look at the specs, but the compressor head looks like it is a lot
>>>> smaller
>>>> than the one on my compressor. My compressor is rated (by Sears) at 12
>>>> SCFM
>>>> @ 40 PSI, 10 SCFM @ 90 PSI on 220V power. Although my angle die
>>>> grinder
>>>> works fine, the compressor does tend to run quite a bit when I'm using
>>>> it.
>>>> I have a sand blaster and paint gun but have not used them in a long
>>>> time.
>>>> Most of the time, I use the compressor to dust stuff off, fill tires,
>>>> and
>>>> run the air ratchet and impact. If you want to use a DA or grinder, I
>>>> recommend one with at least the same capacity as mine, or even a bigger
>>>> tank
>>>> (mine is 30 gal.).
>>>
>>>
>>> Bruce AND Ray:
>>>
>>> Yeah, I've been looking around. I was hoping to get out cheap (<$300)
>>> but
>>> it looks like I have to go up a little. These is a Craftsman at about
>>> $300 that has a 33 gallon tank and is rated @ 8.6@40 and 6.4@90.
>>>
>>> If I shop wisely for tools like Bruce said, I should be able to pull
>>> this
>>> off OK...[/color]
>>
>> I purchased a Ingersoll-Rand angle die grinder and a Harbor Freight brand
>> rotary cutoff tool at Harbor Freight. I'm much happier with the quality
>> of
>> the Ingersoll Rand tool. I bought a cheap cutoff tool because I don't
>> use
>> it very often, but even so, I which I had purchased a little better
>> quality.[/color]
>
>
> A friend of mine pointed me to Harbor Freight, but with a little patience,
> you can usually find a better quality item for a few $$ more.
> (HEY! Sounds like a good title for a CHEESEY Spaghetti Western!!!) ;)
>[/color]

Or a Jackie Chan movie!
--

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