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Old 09-22-2006, 10:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone with a 2003 Camry?

Do you know what that plastic container located right below the battery
is and is it supposed to be filled? I think the "Check Engine" light
keeps coming on because of it. It's definately not a loose gas cap.

 
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Old 09-23-2006, 12:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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"Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158982855.985343.142980@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Do you know what that plastic container located right below the battery
> is and is it supposed to be filled? I think the "Check Engine" light
> keeps coming on because of it. It's definately not a loose gas cap.[/color]

The best way to find out why the check engine light is coming on is to scan
the codes with an OBD II compliant code scanner. There are hundreds of
components that are monitored by the OBD II system, and so any speculation
without scanning the system is a wild guess.

Some auto parts stores like Auto Zone will allow you to use a scanner for
free. Once you have the diagnostic trouble code, you can post the model
year, model, engine, transmission, and mileage along with the codes for more
useful advice.

I have not seen the container you are describing, but if it is a black
plastic container with several vacuum hoses coming out of it, it may be the
evaporative emissions charcoal canister. As the nomenclature implies, it
traps evaporative emissions from the fuel tank and then releases them to the
engine to be burned. The charcoal canister should not be filled with
fluid - if there is fluid inside, it is probably gas, and the control valves
need to be checked, along with replacing the canister. Filling the fuel
tank to the top of the filler neck is a possible cause of the problem.

In any event, get the codes scanned.
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Ray O
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Old 09-23-2006, 09:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Anyone with a 2003 Camry?

> Do you know what that plastic container located right below the battery[color=blue]
> is and is it supposed to be filled? I think the "Check Engine" light
> keeps coming on because of it. It's definately not a loose gas cap.[/color]

Not sure about 2003, but my 2005 Camry has a white plastic container under
the battery. I think it's part of the air intake (before the air filter). My
guess is it's used to trap debris and cool intake air. It's not filled with
anything.

Don't take my word for it, I'm just guessing.


 
Old 09-23-2006, 10:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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ZR wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
> > Do you know what that plastic container located right below the battery
> > is and is it supposed to be filled? I think the "Check Engine" light
> > keeps coming on because of it. It's definately not a loose gas cap.[/color]
>
> Not sure about 2003, but my 2005 Camry has a white plastic container under
> the battery. I think it's part of the air intake (before the air filter). My
> guess is it's used to trap debris and cool intake air. It's not filled with
> anything.[/color]

Yeah, exactly the container I am referring to. It is connected to the
air intake so you may be right. The reason I think it may be causing
the "check engine" light to come on is because there's a small hole on
the bottom of it, courtesy of a mouse.

Also found a hole on the brake fluid container, just below the lid.
Could also be the culprit?

This is the first time the light came on, ever. And it just happens to
coincide with the attack of the container eating mouse, which did about
$1000 damage to numerous cars.
[color=blue]
>
> Don't take my word for it, I'm just guessing.[/color]

 
Old 09-23-2006, 10:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Ray O wrote:[color=blue]
> "Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1158982855.985343.142980@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> > Do you know what that plastic container located right below the battery
> > is and is it supposed to be filled? I think the "Check Engine" light
> > keeps coming on because of it. It's definately not a loose gas cap.[/color]
>
> The best way to find out why the check engine light is coming on is to scan
> the codes with an OBD II compliant code scanner. There are hundreds of
> components that are monitored by the OBD II system, and so any speculation
> without scanning the system is a wild guess.
>
> Some auto parts stores like Auto Zone will allow you to use a scanner for
> free. Once you have the diagnostic trouble code, you can post the model
> year, model, engine, transmission, and mileage along with the codes for more
> useful advice.[/color]


I went to AZ once to get a code read. The guy doing it didn't even know
where the plug was and took about an hour to figure out how to read the
code.
[color=blue]
>
> I have not seen the container you are describing, but if it is a black
> plastic container with several vacuum hoses coming out of it, it may be the
> evaporative emissions charcoal canister. As the nomenclature implies, it
> traps evaporative emissions from the fuel tank and then releases them to the
> engine to be burned. The charcoal canister should not be filled with
> fluid - if there is fluid inside, it is probably gas, and the control valves
> need to be checked, along with replacing the canister. Filling the fuel
> tank to the top of the filler neck is a possible cause of the problem.[/color]

No it's a white container and looks to be connected to the air intake
that leads to the air filter. There's a small hole on the bottom of it
which was caused by a mouse.

There's also a hole on the brake fluid container, just below the cap.

Never had the light come on before, until the attack of the container
eating mouse, which caused about $1000 in damages. I did catch the
culprit... probably shouldn't say what I did to it in case PETA is
reading.


[color=blue]
>
> In any event, get the codes scanned.
> --
>
> Ray O
> (correct punctuation to reply)[/color]

 
Old 09-23-2006, 10:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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On 23 Sep 2006 08:27:11 -0700, "Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!"
<rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Never had the light come on before, until the attack of the container
>eating mouse, which caused about $1000 in damages. I did catch the
>culprit... probably shouldn't say what I did to it in case PETA is
>reading.[/color]

You and Rush Limbaugh and I are rodent killers?

LOL


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Scott in Florida

 
Old 09-23-2006, 11:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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"Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159025231.488942.224210@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> Ray O wrote:[color=green]
>> "Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:1158982855.985343.142980@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=darkred]
>> > Do you know what that plastic container located right below the battery
>> > is and is it supposed to be filled? I think the "Check Engine" light
>> > keeps coming on because of it. It's definately not a loose gas cap.[/color]
>>
>> The best way to find out why the check engine light is coming on is to
>> scan
>> the codes with an OBD II compliant code scanner. There are hundreds of
>> components that are monitored by the OBD II system, and so any
>> speculation
>> without scanning the system is a wild guess.
>>
>> Some auto parts stores like Auto Zone will allow you to use a scanner for
>> free. Once you have the diagnostic trouble code, you can post the model
>> year, model, engine, transmission, and mileage along with the codes for
>> more
>> useful advice.[/color]
>
>
> I went to AZ once to get a code read. The guy doing it didn't even know
> where the plug was and took about an hour to figure out how to read the
> code.[/color]

If you do not have a code scanner, AZ is a free and convenient place to have
codes scanned. I would not rely on the diagnostic abilities of anyone
working there unless they happen to be an ASE certified technician (as
opposed to an ASE certified parts counterman). A competent technician could
probably make more money working as a technician than at an auto parts store
so I would not count on finding one there.
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>>
>> I have not seen the container you are describing, but if it is a black
>> plastic container with several vacuum hoses coming out of it, it may be
>> the
>> evaporative emissions charcoal canister. As the nomenclature implies, it
>> traps evaporative emissions from the fuel tank and then releases them to
>> the
>> engine to be burned. The charcoal canister should not be filled with
>> fluid - if there is fluid inside, it is probably gas, and the control
>> valves
>> need to be checked, along with replacing the canister. Filling the fuel
>> tank to the top of the filler neck is a possible cause of the problem.[/color]
>
> No it's a white container and looks to be connected to the air intake
> that leads to the air filter. There's a small hole on the bottom of it
> which was caused by a mouse.[/color]

A hole in the engine air intake before the MAF sensor will not set a check
engine light. I believe that one of the functions of that container is to
trap water and keep it out of the intake - there should be a drain at the
bottom somewhere, or the container's function could be to act as a muffler.
[color=blue]
>
> There's also a hole on the brake fluid container, just below the cap.[/color]

A hole in the brake master cylinder reservoir is a very dangerous
condition!!!!! Besides the possibility of brake fluid loss through the
hole, it exposes the brake fluid to the atmosphere and the brake fluid will
absorb the moisture in the atmosphere. The mositure-laden brake fluid can
cause corrosion to the brake calipers, wheel cylinders, lines, ABS actuator,
etc. as well as allow vapor to form in the lines, which will cause loss of
braking efficiency.

I recommend that you have the brake master cylinder changed and the old
brake fluid flushed and replaced ASAP!

If the brake fluid has leaked out, the "brake" light on the instrument panel
should come on but it would not turn on the check engine light.
[color=blue]
>
> Never had the light come on before, until the attack of the container
> eating mouse, which caused about $1000 in damages. I did catch the
> culprit... probably shouldn't say what I did to it in case PETA is
> reading.
>[/color]

I saw a bumper sticker that read: "People Eating Tasty Animals"
[color=blue][color=green]
>> In any event, get the codes scanned.[/color][/color]

I think that there is a problem unrelated to the hole in the air intake or
the brake master cylinder reservoir. A code scan will provide clues on
where to look.
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Ray O
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Old 09-23-2006, 12:35 PM   #8 (permalink)
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"Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1159024802.963445.282100@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> ZR wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > Do you know what that plastic container located right below the battery
>> > is and is it supposed to be filled? I think the "Check Engine" light
>> > keeps coming on because of it. It's definately not a loose gas cap.[/color]
>>
>> Not sure about 2003, but my 2005 Camry has a white plastic container
>> under
>> the battery. I think it's part of the air intake (before the air filter).
>> My
>> guess is it's used to trap debris and cool intake air. It's not filled
>> with
>> anything.[/color]
>
> Yeah, exactly the container I am referring to. It is connected to the
> air intake so you may be right. The reason I think it may be causing
> the "check engine" light to come on is because there's a small hole on
> the bottom of it, courtesy of a mouse.
>
> Also found a hole on the brake fluid container, just below the lid.
> Could also be the culprit?
>
> This is the first time the light came on, ever. And it just happens to
> coincide with the attack of the container eating mouse, which did about
> $1000 damage to numerous cars.[/color]

Hey, why don't we as a nation start breeding these little plastic eating
buggers? Think of the untold piles of undegradable plastic in landfills
that could be gobbled up by them....! wow, the mind boggles.


 
Old 09-23-2006, 03:12 PM   #9 (permalink)
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How much plastic was normally in that container? Was it filled with
plastic or just partly filled? ;)

mike hunt


"Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1158982855.985343.142980@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Do you know what that plastic container located right below the battery
> is and is it supposed to be filled? I think the "Check Engine" light
> keeps coming on because of it. It's definately not a loose gas cap.
>[/color]


 
Old 09-24-2006, 05:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 16:12:35 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>How much plastic was normally in that container? Was it filled with
>plastic or just partly filled? ;)
>
>mike hunt
>
>
>"Tush Smells Bush Kills!!!!!!!!!!!" <rsfccarbomb@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:1158982855.985343.142980@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>> Do you know what that plastic container located right below the battery
>> is and is it supposed to be filled? I think the "Check Engine" light
>> keeps coming on because of it. It's definately not a loose gas cap.
>>[/color]
>[/color]

The white container is a resonator, to reduce air noise.
Normally contains "air"


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