OT: Jane magazine reader thinks being a virgin at 29 is odd

Supposedly there is a young lady looking to get married by 30 to end her
oppressive virginity. (Thanks, BTW to our former president for changing the
landscape of this sort of stuff.)

Hey, I'll be 49 next month. We were raised different. Some of us were
raised to actually respect women. We were taught that you wait until
marriage. But then again we were born in an era where cars had tail-fins.
The space age had just begun. Radios and computers still had tubes in them,
and a personal computer was someone who had their own adding machine.
Captain Crunch didn't exist yet. either as the cereal or the phone phreek.
Most of us had to call long distance by dialing '0'. Many of us had phone
numbers with real words in them, like PUllman 5, WAterfall 8 or HIlltop 5.
If you wanted to find a geek, look for the guy with taped up glasses and a
slide rule in his pocket. The Classic (55-57) Chevys were just going off
the new showroom floor to be replaced by the ugliest Chevy ever made, the
58's, and the Classic T-Bird was being replaced by the 4-square Bird. There
were no "pony cars". There was a Japanese car called a Toyopet, not quite
the Toyota Crown (Corona) of the 60's and 70's yet. If you wanted a small
economical car, you bought a VW Beetle, that's about all there was, although
in the 1958 model year there were a number of smaller foriegn cars trying to
break into the market.

You could have any color phone you wanted, as long as it was black. An
answering machine was your mother taking a message then telling you that
so-and-so called. A really fancy answering machine was when your mom wrote
down the message. Most people had 4-60 air conditioning in their cars, roll
down the 4 windows and go like 60. Most states had to put in numeric speed
limits for the first time as a result of the Interstate Highway Act.
Illinois, which had been Reasonable and Proper for cars, and with a very
'loose' interpretation by the cops thereof, finally make the speed on the
open highways 65. (Funny, it's now 55). In very few places were there 4
lane divided roads, most everywhere you went was a two lane road, or
sometimes even a few one lane roads with shoulders still existed. One of
the busier 4 lane roads ran from Chicago to Saint Louis, the famous US 66,
to be replaced shortly by I-55. And lane markers changed when you crossed
state lines, so you had to know them.

That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone expected
it back then.

I wonder what our poor little 29 year old would feel like if she had to wait
to 49 . . . . Or maybe she should just marry me and we both try to figure
it out together, like couples used to. . . .<GD&RRF>

Charles of Schaumburg

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Supposedly there is a young lady looking to get married by 30 to end her
> oppressive virginity. (Thanks, BTW to our former president for changing
> the landscape of this sort of stuff.)
>
> Hey, I'll be 49 next month. We were raised different. Some of us were
> raised to actually respect women.[/color]

This, coming from *you*!? Right. Your definition of "respect" when it
comes to women is an incredibly narrow one.

Cathy

We were taught that you wait until[color=blue]
> marriage. But then again we were born in an era where cars had
> tail-fins. The space age had just begun. Radios and computers still had
> tubes in them, and a personal computer was someone who had their own
> adding machine. Captain Crunch didn't exist yet. either as the cereal or
> the phone phreek. Most of us had to call long distance by dialing '0'.
> Many of us had phone numbers with real words in them, like PUllman 5,
> WAterfall 8 or HIlltop 5. If you wanted to find a geek, look for the guy
> with taped up glasses and a slide rule in his pocket. The Classic (55-57)
> Chevys were just going off the new showroom floor to be replaced by the
> ugliest Chevy ever made, the 58's, and the Classic T-Bird was being
> replaced by the 4-square Bird. There were no "pony cars". There was a
> Japanese car called a Toyopet, not quite the Toyota Crown (Corona) of the
> 60's and 70's yet. If you wanted a small economical car, you bought a VW
> Beetle, that's about all there was, although in the 1958 model year there
> were a number of smaller foriegn cars trying to break into the market.
>
> You could have any color phone you wanted, as long as it was black. An
> answering machine was your mother taking a message then telling you that
> so-and-so called. A really fancy answering machine was when your mom
> wrote down the message. Most people had 4-60 air conditioning in their
> cars, roll down the 4 windows and go like 60. Most states had to put in
> numeric speed limits for the first time as a result of the Interstate
> Highway Act. Illinois, which had been Reasonable and Proper for cars, and
> with a very 'loose' interpretation by the cops thereof, finally make the
> speed on the open highways 65. (Funny, it's now 55). In very few places
> were there 4 lane divided roads, most everywhere you went was a two lane
> road, or sometimes even a few one lane roads with shoulders still existed.
> One of the busier 4 lane roads ran from Chicago to Saint Louis, the famous
> US 66, to be replaced shortly by I-55. And lane markers changed when you
> crossed state lines, so you had to know them.
>
> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
> expected it back then.
>
> I wonder what our poor little 29 year old would feel like if she had to
> wait to 49 . . . . Or maybe she should just marry me and we both try to
> figure it out together, like couples used to. . . .<GD&RRF>
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Supposedly there is a young lady looking to get married by 30 to end her
> oppressive virginity. (Thanks, BTW to our former president for changing
> the landscape of this sort of stuff.)
>
> Hey, I'll be 49 next month. We were raised different. Some of us were
> raised to actually respect women. We were taught that you wait until
> marriage. But then again we were born in an era where cars had
> tail-fins. The space age had just begun. Radios and computers still had
> tubes in them, and a personal computer was someone who had their own
> adding machine. Captain Crunch didn't exist yet. either as the cereal or
> the phone phreek. Most of us had to call long distance by dialing '0'.
> Many of us had phone numbers with real words in them, like PUllman 5,
> WAterfall 8 or HIlltop 5. If you wanted to find a geek, look for the guy
> with taped up glasses and a slide rule in his pocket. The Classic (55-57)
> Chevys were just going off the new showroom floor to be replaced by the
> ugliest Chevy ever made, the 58's, and the Classic T-Bird was being
> replaced by the 4-square Bird. There were no "pony cars". There was a
> Japanese car called a Toyopet, not quite the Toyota Crown (Corona) of the
> 60's and 70's yet. If you wanted a small economical car, you bought a VW
> Beetle, that's about all there was, although in the 1958 model year there
> were a number of smaller foriegn cars trying to break into the market.
>
> You could have any color phone you wanted, as long as it was black. An
> answering machine was your mother taking a message then telling you that
> so-and-so called. A really fancy answering machine was when your mom
> wrote down the message. Most people had 4-60 air conditioning in their
> cars, roll down the 4 windows and go like 60. Most states had to put in
> numeric speed limits for the first time as a result of the Interstate
> Highway Act. Illinois, which had been Reasonable and Proper for cars, and
> with a very 'loose' interpretation by the cops thereof, finally make the
> speed on the open highways 65. (Funny, it's now 55). In very few places
> were there 4 lane divided roads, most everywhere you went was a two lane
> road, or sometimes even a few one lane roads with shoulders still existed.
> One of the busier 4 lane roads ran from Chicago to Saint Louis, the famous
> US 66, to be replaced shortly by I-55. And lane markers changed when you
> crossed state lines, so you had to know them.
>
> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
> expected it back then.
>
> I wonder what our poor little 29 year old would feel like if she had to
> wait to 49 . . . . Or maybe she should just marry me and we both try to
> figure it out together, like couples used to. . . .<GD&RRF>
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]

If it makes you feel any better, there are many more virgins in the world
than let on. I have had *so* many young patients of both genders confide to
me that they pretend to 'mess around' to keep the other kids from teasing
them. Ironic that this is the way it is, I know, but I have more faith than
you do in kids today.

Keep in mind they have a risk we didn't have: AIDS. That helps keep them
from boinking as well. Not nearly all of them, but many of them. As a
nurse, I've always been very frank with my kids; no sugar-coated
explanations, ever. So far they're very open with me as well. I've never
tried to demand their abstinence, but have made sure they know about every
single consequence of their actions.

All I can do is hope they heard me; I think they did.

Natalie, mother of teens

I am just happy to hear that there is no chance you have reproduced.



"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
> Supposedly there is a young lady looking to get married by 30 to end her
> oppressive virginity. (Thanks, BTW to our former president for changing
> the landscape of this sort of stuff.)
>
> Hey, I'll be 49 next month. We were raised different. Some of us were
> raised to actually respect women. We were taught that you wait until
> marriage. But then again we were born in an era where cars had
> tail-fins. The space age had just begun. Radios and computers still had
> tubes in them, and a personal computer was someone who had their own
> adding machine. Captain Crunch didn't exist yet. either as the cereal or
> the phone phreek. Most of us had to call long distance by dialing '0'.
> Many of us had phone numbers with real words in them, like PUllman 5,
> WAterfall 8 or HIlltop 5. If you wanted to find a geek, look for the guy
> with taped up glasses and a slide rule in his pocket. The Classic (55-57)
> Chevys were just going off the new showroom floor to be replaced by the
> ugliest Chevy ever made, the 58's, and the Classic T-Bird was being
> replaced by the 4-square Bird. There were no "pony cars". There was a
> Japanese car called a Toyopet, not quite the Toyota Crown (Corona) of the
> 60's and 70's yet. If you wanted a small economical car, you bought a VW
> Beetle, that's about all there was, although in the 1958 model year there
> were a number of smaller foriegn cars trying to break into the market.
>
> You could have any color phone you wanted, as long as it was black. An
> answering machine was your mother taking a message then telling you that
> so-and-so called. A really fancy answering machine was when your mom
> wrote down the message. Most people had 4-60 air conditioning in their
> cars, roll down the 4 windows and go like 60. Most states had to put in
> numeric speed limits for the first time as a result of the Interstate
> Highway Act. Illinois, which had been Reasonable and Proper for cars, and
> with a very 'loose' interpretation by the cops thereof, finally make the
> speed on the open highways 65. (Funny, it's now 55). In very few places
> were there 4 lane divided roads, most everywhere you went was a two lane
> road, or sometimes even a few one lane roads with shoulders still existed.
> One of the busier 4 lane roads ran from Chicago to Saint Louis, the famous
> US 66, to be replaced shortly by I-55. And lane markers changed when you
> crossed state lines, so you had to know them.
>
> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
> expected it back then.
>
> I wonder what our poor little 29 year old would feel like if she had to
> wait to 49 . . . . Or maybe she should just marry me and we both try to
> figure it out together, like couples used to. . . .<GD&RRF>
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
[color=blue]
> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
> expected it back then.[/color]

I hate to burst your happy little bubble, but not everybody did wait "back
then".

Cathy

[color=blue]
>
> I wonder what our poor little 29 year old would feel like if she had to
> wait to 49 . . . . Or maybe she should just marry me and we both try to
> figure it out together, like couples used to. . . .<GD&RRF>
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]

On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:46:06 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>
>"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>[color=green]
>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>> expected it back then.[/color]
>
>I hate to burst your happy little bubble, but not everybody did wait "back
>then".
>
>Cathy
>[/color]

.....and look how you turned out.... ;-)



--

Scott in Florida

"Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ef66mc.3eo.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=blue]
>
> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
>> Supposedly there is a young lady looking to get married by 30 to end her
>> oppressive virginity. (Thanks, BTW to our former president for changing
>> the landscape of this sort of stuff.)
>>
>> Hey, I'll be 49 next month. We were raised different. Some of us were
>> raised to actually respect women. We were taught that you wait until
>> marriage. But then again we were born in an era where cars had
>> tail-fins. The space age had just begun. Radios and computers still had
>> tubes in them, and a personal computer was someone who had their own
>> adding machine. Captain Crunch didn't exist yet. either as the cereal or
>> the phone phreek. Most of us had to call long distance by dialing '0'.
>> Many of us had phone numbers with real words in them, like PUllman 5,
>> WAterfall 8 or HIlltop 5. If you wanted to find a geek, look for the guy
>> with taped up glasses and a slide rule in his pocket. The Classic
>> (55-57) Chevys were just going off the new showroom floor to be replaced
>> by the ugliest Chevy ever made, the 58's, and the Classic T-Bird was
>> being replaced by the 4-square Bird. There were no "pony cars". There
>> was a Japanese car called a Toyopet, not quite the Toyota Crown (Corona)
>> of the 60's and 70's yet. If you wanted a small economical car, you
>> bought a VW Beetle, that's about all there was, although in the 1958
>> model year there were a number of smaller foriegn cars trying to break
>> into the market.
>>
>> You could have any color phone you wanted, as long as it was black. An
>> answering machine was your mother taking a message then telling you that
>> so-and-so called. A really fancy answering machine was when your mom
>> wrote down the message. Most people had 4-60 air conditioning in their
>> cars, roll down the 4 windows and go like 60. Most states had to put in
>> numeric speed limits for the first time as a result of the Interstate
>> Highway Act. Illinois, which had been Reasonable and Proper for cars, and
>> with a very 'loose' interpretation by the cops thereof, finally make the
>> speed on the open highways 65. (Funny, it's now 55). In very few
>> places were there 4 lane divided roads, most everywhere you went was a
>> two lane road, or sometimes even a few one lane roads with shoulders
>> still existed. One of the busier 4 lane roads ran from Chicago to Saint
>> Louis, the famous US 66, to be replaced shortly by I-55. And lane
>> markers changed when you crossed state lines, so you had to know them.
>>
>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>> expected it back then.
>>
>> I wonder what our poor little 29 year old would feel like if she had to
>> wait to 49 . . . . Or maybe she should just marry me and we both try to
>> figure it out together, like couples used to. . . .<GD&RRF>
>>
>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>[/color]
>
> If it makes you feel any better, there are many more virgins in the world
> than let on. I have had *so* many young patients of both genders confide
> to me that they pretend to 'mess around' to keep the other kids from
> teasing them. Ironic that this is the way it is, I know, but I have more
> faith than you do in kids today.
>
> Keep in mind they have a risk we didn't have: AIDS. That helps keep them
> from boinking as well. Not nearly all of them, but many of them. As a
> nurse, I've always been very frank with my kids; no sugar-coated
> explanations, ever. So far they're very open with me as well. I've never
> tried to demand their abstinence, but have made sure they know about every
> single consequence of their actions.
>
> All I can do is hope they heard me; I think they did.
>
> Natalie, mother of teens
>[/color]

I hope so, too. You probably see from time to time the unfortunate results
of 'not listening'.

Oh, I forgot one other thing in my solliloquy: We had only ONE TV back
then, and it was one of them racist TV's. You know, black and white. . . .
I remember when we bought our first color TV. I didn't have my own color TV
until 2004, prior to that anything I owned was black and white. My family
didn't have one until 1988.

Charles of Schaumburg

"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
news:jcCdnbeC2-qPSYvYnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
>> Supposedly there is a young lady looking to get married by 30 to end her
>> oppressive virginity. (Thanks, BTW to our former president for changing
>> the landscape of this sort of stuff.)
>>
>> Hey, I'll be 49 next month. We were raised different. Some of us were
>> raised to actually respect women.[/color]
>
> This, coming from *you*!? Right. Your definition of "respect" when it
> comes to women is an incredibly narrow one.
>
> Cathy
>
> We were taught that you wait until[color=green]
>> marriage. But then again we were born in an era where cars had
>> tail-fins. The space age had just begun. Radios and computers still had
>> tubes in them, and a personal computer was someone who had their own
>> adding machine. Captain Crunch didn't exist yet. either as the cereal or
>> the phone phreek. Most of us had to call long distance by dialing '0'.
>> Many of us had phone numbers with real words in them, like PUllman 5,
>> WAterfall 8 or HIlltop 5. If you wanted to find a geek, look for the guy
>> with taped up glasses and a slide rule in his pocket. The Classic
>> (55-57) Chevys were just going off the new showroom floor to be replaced
>> by the ugliest Chevy ever made, the 58's, and the Classic T-Bird was
>> being replaced by the 4-square Bird. There were no "pony cars". There
>> was a Japanese car called a Toyopet, not quite the Toyota Crown (Corona)
>> of the 60's and 70's yet. If you wanted a small economical car, you
>> bought a VW Beetle, that's about all there was, although in the 1958
>> model year there were a number of smaller foriegn cars trying to break
>> into the market.
>>
>> You could have any color phone you wanted, as long as it was black. An
>> answering machine was your mother taking a message then telling you that
>> so-and-so called. A really fancy answering machine was when your mom
>> wrote down the message. Most people had 4-60 air conditioning in their
>> cars, roll down the 4 windows and go like 60. Most states had to put in
>> numeric speed limits for the first time as a result of the Interstate
>> Highway Act. Illinois, which had been Reasonable and Proper for cars, and
>> with a very 'loose' interpretation by the cops thereof, finally make the
>> speed on the open highways 65. (Funny, it's now 55). In very few
>> places were there 4 lane divided roads, most everywhere you went was a
>> two lane road, or sometimes even a few one lane roads with shoulders
>> still existed. One of the busier 4 lane roads ran from Chicago to Saint
>> Louis, the famous US 66, to be replaced shortly by I-55. And lane
>> markers changed when you crossed state lines, so you had to know them.
>>
>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>> expected it back then.
>>
>> I wonder what our poor little 29 year old would feel like if she had to
>> wait to 49 . . . . Or maybe she should just marry me and we both try to
>> figure it out together, like couples used to. . . .<GD&RRF>
>>
>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

Yes I do have respect for women, they just don't seem to have respect for
themselves. The old way worked for 6000 years and better, the NAGs and
the ACT-UP crowd are trying to redefine it to suit them better, but there's
a reason the old ways have lasted 6000 years and more. . . . .

There was a reason women were to marry men. A lot of it involved protection
of the woman. Of course you're going to get one or two guys in there that
beat their wives, etc. We're all, sadly, fallen humans. That's partly why
God put together family and government in the first place. What you NAG
gals don't understand is it's a HARD thing for a man to give up his freedom
and be responsible for the women and later, children. All you've done is
make it easier for them to shirk their responsibility. If they can have all
the fun of free love and never have to pay the bill, hey, you've just put a
big old smile on his face. Man is depraved, too. . . .

NAG = National Association of Gals.

Charles of Schaumburg

"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
news:bu8eh2dkbas15nt2fu19rij9om0u4pbh54@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:46:06 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>>"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>[color=darkred]
>>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
>>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>>> expected it back then.[/color]
>>
>>I hate to burst your happy little bubble, but not everybody did wait "back
>>then".
>>
>>Cathy
>>[/color]
>
> ....and look how you turned out.... ;-)
>
>
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida
>[/color]

I hate to burst Cathy's bubble, but a lot more people waited than Mr
Kinsey's report seems to show. Of course some people didn't wait, there've
always been people that can't follow society's rules. But Kinsey basically
convinced everyone that no one was really waiting or being faithful, when,
in reality, we found out much later that the source of his data was so
skewed that it basically made his whole study invalid.

Charles of Schaumburg

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:WrSdnbCYPpVCoYrYnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
> news:jcCdnbeC2-qPSYvYnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@giganews.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Supposedly there is a young lady looking to get married by 30 to end her
>>> oppressive virginity. (Thanks, BTW to our former president for changing
>>> the landscape of this sort of stuff.)
>>>
>>> Hey, I'll be 49 next month. We were raised different. Some of us were
>>> raised to actually respect women.[/color]
>>
>> This, coming from *you*!? Right. Your definition of "respect" when it
>> comes to women is an incredibly narrow one.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>> We were taught that you wait until[color=darkred]
>>> marriage. But then again we were born in an era where cars had
>>> tail-fins. The space age had just begun. Radios and computers still had
>>> tubes in them, and a personal computer was someone who had their own
>>> adding machine. Captain Crunch didn't exist yet. either as the cereal or
>>> the phone phreek. Most of us had to call long distance by dialing '0'.
>>> Many of us had phone numbers with real words in them, like PUllman 5,
>>> WAterfall 8 or HIlltop 5. If you wanted to find a geek, look for the guy
>>> with taped up glasses and a slide rule in his pocket. The Classic
>>> (55-57) Chevys were just going off the new showroom floor to be replaced
>>> by the ugliest Chevy ever made, the 58's, and the Classic T-Bird was
>>> being replaced by the 4-square Bird. There were no "pony cars". There
>>> was a Japanese car called a Toyopet, not quite the Toyota Crown (Corona)
>>> of the 60's and 70's yet. If you wanted a small economical car, you
>>> bought a VW Beetle, that's about all there was, although in the 1958
>>> model year there were a number of smaller foriegn cars trying to break
>>> into the market.
>>>
>>> You could have any color phone you wanted, as long as it was black. An
>>> answering machine was your mother taking a message then telling you that
>>> so-and-so called. A really fancy answering machine was when your mom
>>> wrote down the message. Most people had 4-60 air conditioning in their
>>> cars, roll down the 4 windows and go like 60. Most states had to put in
>>> numeric speed limits for the first time as a result of the Interstate
>>> Highway Act. Illinois, which had been Reasonable and Proper for cars,
>>> and with a very 'loose' interpretation by the cops thereof, finally make
>>> the speed on the open highways 65. (Funny, it's now 55). In very few
>>> places were there 4 lane divided roads, most everywhere you went was a
>>> two lane road, or sometimes even a few one lane roads with shoulders
>>> still existed. One of the busier 4 lane roads ran from Chicago to Saint
>>> Louis, the famous US 66, to be replaced shortly by I-55. And lane
>>> markers changed when you crossed state lines, so you had to know them.
>>>
>>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
>>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>>> expected it back then.
>>>
>>> I wonder what our poor little 29 year old would feel like if she had to
>>> wait to 49 . . . . Or maybe she should just marry me and we both try to
>>> figure it out together, like couples used to. . . .<GD&RRF>
>>>
>>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
> Yes I do have respect for women, they just don't seem to have respect for
> themselves.[/color]

Ha! It's the other way around. Women who have respect for themselves would
stay clear of you!

Cathy

The old way worked for 6000 years and better, the NAGs and[color=blue]
> the ACT-UP crowd are trying to redefine it to suit them better, but
> there's a reason the old ways have lasted 6000 years and more. . . . .
>
> There was a reason women were to marry men. A lot of it involved
> protection of the woman. Of course you're going to get one or two guys
> in there that beat their wives, etc. We're all, sadly, fallen humans.
> That's partly why God put together family and government in the first
> place. What you NAG gals don't understand is it's a HARD thing for a man
> to give up his freedom and be responsible for the women and later,
> children. All you've done is make it easier for them to shirk their
> responsibility. If they can have all the fun of free love and never have
> to pay the bill, hey, you've just put a big old smile on his face. Man
> is depraved, too. . . .
>
> NAG = National Association of Gals.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:QeKdnb6FrLAYoIrYnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
> news:bu8eh2dkbas15nt2fu19rij9om0u4pbh54@4ax.com...[color=green]
>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:46:06 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>
>> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>
>>>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had
>>>> made
>>>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>>>> expected it back then.
>>>
>>>I hate to burst your happy little bubble, but not everybody did wait
>>>"back
>>>then".
>>>
>>>Cathy
>>>[/color]
>>
>> ....and look how you turned out.... ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Scott in Florida
>>[/color]
>
> I hate to burst Cathy's bubble, but a lot more people waited than Mr
> Kinsey's report seems to show. Of course some people didn't wait,[/color]

Oh, hmmm... now it's "Of course some people didn't wait", whereas in your
first post "Everybody waited". Imagine that.

Cathy



there've[color=blue]
> always been people that can't follow society's rules. But Kinsey
> basically convinced everyone that no one was really waiting or being
> faithful, when, in reality, we found out much later that the source of his
> data was so skewed that it basically made his whole study invalid.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]

"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
news:f7qdnZal7r_WoorYnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:QeKdnb6FrLAYoIrYnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
>> news:bu8eh2dkbas15nt2fu19rij9om0u4pbh54@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:46:06 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had
>>>>> made
>>>>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>>>>> expected it back then.
>>>>
>>>>I hate to burst your happy little bubble, but not everybody did wait
>>>>"back
>>>>then".
>>>>
>>>>Cathy
>>>>
>>>
>>> ....and look how you turned out.... ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Scott in Florida
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I hate to burst Cathy's bubble, but a lot more people waited than Mr
>> Kinsey's report seems to show. Of course some people didn't wait,[/color]
>
> Oh, hmmm... now it's "Of course some people didn't wait", whereas in your
> first post "Everybody waited". Imagine that.
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
> there've[color=green]
>> always been people that can't follow society's rules. But Kinsey
>> basically convinced everyone that no one was really waiting or being
>> faithful, when, in reality, we found out much later that the source of
>> his data was so skewed that it basically made his whole study invalid.
>>
>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

OK. Most everybody waited. There was a lot of societal pressure to wait in
the old days. For one thing, there was a much better chance the lady might
get pregnant, and that was a societal embarrasment. But starting with
Kinsey, and running through the free love 60's and the NAG devolution, more
people chose to ignore society's pressure to conform to a norm. Look where
it's got us. With people like you that don't know the difference.

Charles of Schaumburg

"Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
news:f7qdnZal7r_WoorYnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:QeKdnb6FrLAYoIrYnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
>> news:bu8eh2dkbas15nt2fu19rij9om0u4pbh54@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:46:06 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>
>>>>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had
>>>>> made
>>>>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>>>>> expected it back then.
>>>>
>>>>I hate to burst your happy little bubble, but not everybody did wait
>>>>"back
>>>>then".
>>>>
>>>>Cathy
>>>>
>>>
>>> ....and look how you turned out.... ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Scott in Florida
>>>[/color]
>>
>> I hate to burst Cathy's bubble, but a lot more people waited than Mr
>> Kinsey's report seems to show. Of course some people didn't wait,[/color]
>
> Oh, hmmm... now it's "Of course some people didn't wait", whereas in your
> first post "Everybody waited". Imagine that.
>
> Cathy
>[/color]

She gotcha there

Natalie

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6_WdnUfMtINSp4rYnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Wickeddoll®" <wickeddoll1958diespammersdie@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ef66mc.3eo.1@news.evilcabal.org...[color=green]
>>
>> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>>> Supposedly there is a young lady looking to get married by 30 to end her
>>> oppressive virginity. (Thanks, BTW to our former president for changing
>>> the landscape of this sort of stuff.)
>>>
>>> Hey, I'll be 49 next month. We were raised different. Some of us were
>>> raised to actually respect women. We were taught that you wait until
>>> marriage. But then again we were born in an era where cars had
>>> tail-fins. The space age had just begun. Radios and computers still had
>>> tubes in them, and a personal computer was someone who had their own
>>> adding machine. Captain Crunch didn't exist yet. either as the cereal or
>>> the phone phreek. Most of us had to call long distance by dialing '0'.
>>> Many of us had phone numbers with real words in them, like PUllman 5,
>>> WAterfall 8 or HIlltop 5. If you wanted to find a geek, look for the guy
>>> with taped up glasses and a slide rule in his pocket. The Classic
>>> (55-57) Chevys were just going off the new showroom floor to be replaced
>>> by the ugliest Chevy ever made, the 58's, and the Classic T-Bird was
>>> being replaced by the 4-square Bird. There were no "pony cars". There
>>> was a Japanese car called a Toyopet, not quite the Toyota Crown (Corona)
>>> of the 60's and 70's yet. If you wanted a small economical car, you
>>> bought a VW Beetle, that's about all there was, although in the 1958
>>> model year there were a number of smaller foriegn cars trying to break
>>> into the market.
>>>
>>> You could have any color phone you wanted, as long as it was black. An
>>> answering machine was your mother taking a message then telling you that
>>> so-and-so called. A really fancy answering machine was when your mom
>>> wrote down the message. Most people had 4-60 air conditioning in their
>>> cars, roll down the 4 windows and go like 60. Most states had to put in
>>> numeric speed limits for the first time as a result of the Interstate
>>> Highway Act. Illinois, which had been Reasonable and Proper for cars,
>>> and with a very 'loose' interpretation by the cops thereof, finally make
>>> the speed on the open highways 65. (Funny, it's now 55). In very few
>>> places were there 4 lane divided roads, most everywhere you went was a
>>> two lane road, or sometimes even a few one lane roads with shoulders
>>> still existed. One of the busier 4 lane roads ran from Chicago to Saint
>>> Louis, the famous US 66, to be replaced shortly by I-55. And lane
>>> markers changed when you crossed state lines, so you had to know them.
>>>
>>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had made
>>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>>> expected it back then.
>>>
>>> I wonder what our poor little 29 year old would feel like if she had to
>>> wait to 49 . . . . Or maybe she should just marry me and we both try to
>>> figure it out together, like couples used to. . . .<GD&RRF>
>>>
>>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>>[/color]
>>
>> If it makes you feel any better, there are many more virgins in the world
>> than let on. I have had *so* many young patients of both genders confide
>> to me that they pretend to 'mess around' to keep the other kids from
>> teasing them. Ironic that this is the way it is, I know, but I have more
>> faith than you do in kids today.
>>
>> Keep in mind they have a risk we didn't have: AIDS. That helps keep them
>> from boinking as well. Not nearly all of them, but many of them. As a
>> nurse, I've always been very frank with my kids; no sugar-coated
>> explanations, ever. So far they're very open with me as well. I've
>> never tried to demand their abstinence, but have made sure they know
>> about every single consequence of their actions.
>>
>> All I can do is hope they heard me; I think they did.
>>
>> Natalie, mother of teens
>>[/color]
>
> I hope so, too. You probably see from time to time the unfortunate
> results of 'not listening'.
>
> Oh, I forgot one other thing in my solliloquy: We had only ONE TV back
> then, and it was one of them racist TV's. You know, black and white. . .
> . I remember when we bought our first color TV. I didn't have my own
> color TV until 2004, prior to that anything I owned was black and white.
> My family didn't have one until 1988.
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]

Damn, dude - we got one in 1970.

LOL

Natalie

"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:XeSdnRVvk-o63YrYnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net> wrote in message
> news:f7qdnZal7r_WoorYnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@giganews.com...[color=green]
>>
>> "n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:QeKdnb6FrLAYoIrYnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com...[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
>>> news:bu8eh2dkbas15nt2fu19rij9om0u4pbh54@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:46:06 -0400, "Cathy F." <clfr@adelphiadot.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"n5hsr" <n5hsr@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>news:ivSdnexijN8AVIvYnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>> That was before the influence of Al Kinsey and his book of LIES had
>>>>>> made
>>>>>> such an inroad on the country. Everybody waited, because everyone
>>>>>> expected it back then.
>>>>>
>>>>>I hate to burst your happy little bubble, but not everybody did wait
>>>>>"back
>>>>>then".
>>>>>
>>>>>Cathy
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ....and look how you turned out.... ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Scott in Florida
>>>>
>>>
>>> I hate to burst Cathy's bubble, but a lot more people waited than Mr
>>> Kinsey's report seems to show. Of course some people didn't wait,[/color]
>>
>> Oh, hmmm... now it's "Of course some people didn't wait", whereas in your
>> first post "Everybody waited". Imagine that.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>>
>>
>> there've[color=darkred]
>>> always been people that can't follow society's rules. But Kinsey
>>> basically convinced everyone that no one was really waiting or being
>>> faithful, when, in reality, we found out much later that the source of
>>> his data was so skewed that it basically made his whole study invalid.
>>>
>>> Charles of Schaumburg
>>>[/color]
>>
>>[/color]
>
> OK. Most everybody waited. There was a lot of societal pressure to wait
> in the old days. For one thing, there was a much better chance the lady
> might get pregnant, and that was a societal embarrasment. But starting
> with Kinsey, and running through the free love 60's and the NAG
> devolution, more people chose to ignore society's pressure to conform to a
> norm. Look where it's got us. With people like you that don't know the
> difference.[/color]

You have absolutley no clue what I think about this. Zilch.

Cathy
[color=blue]
>
> Charles of Schaumburg
>[/color]