And I bought myself a compressor...

It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90

After doing a LOT of looking around, I decided I didn't want to run a 240V
line and that this was the best out of everything on the market.

The sale ended today, BUT I went online and got the sale price. It also
comes with a 10 PC tool kit, which irritates me, cause it's the same tools
I bought on E-Bay! I got them much cheaper on E-Bay, so I'll use them and
leave the new ones in the case until the ones I bought burn out..

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01...[color=blue]
> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>
> After doing a LOT of looking around, I decided I didn't want to run a 240V
> line and that this was the best out of everything on the market.
>
> The sale ended today, BUT I went online and got the sale price. It also
> comes with a 10 PC tool kit, which irritates me, cause it's the same tools
> I bought on E-Bay! I got them much cheaper on E-Bay, so I'll use them and
> leave the new ones in the case until the ones I bought burn out..[/color]

Congratulations! Don't forget to drain the tank every so often, and put a
drop of air tool oil into the air tool before each use.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

In article <LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01> [email]Trueno@ae86.gts[/email] "Hachiroku" writes:
[color=blue]
> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>
> [...][/color]

So now all you need now is a million party balloons?
--
Andrew Stephenson

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:47:55 +0000, Andrew Stephenson wrote:
[color=blue]
> In article <LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01> [email]Trueno@ae86.gts[/email] "Hachiroku" writes:
>[color=green]
>> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>>
>> [...][/color]
>
> So now all you need now is a million party balloons?[/color]


I can't separate out Helium!

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01...[color=blue]
> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>
> After doing a LOT of looking around, I decided I didn't want to run a 240V
> line and that this was the best out of everything on the market.
>
> The sale ended today, BUT I went online and got the sale price. It also
> comes with a 10 PC tool kit, which irritates me, cause it's the same tools
> I bought on E-Bay! I got them much cheaper on E-Bay, so I'll use them and
> leave the new ones in the case until the ones I bought burn out..[/color]

Oh well, I bought the 33 gal 240 volt. I bought it cheap off the floor. Yep.
I had to install a 240 volt line, but my mistake was to use 2 conductor
10AWG romex, because I later needed a neutral conductor for 110 volts to
power a contactor transformer and for lighting. This unit stays in one
place, so no regrets about the 240 volts.

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:31:01 +0000, Dave M. wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
> news:LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01...[color=green]
>> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>>
>> After doing a LOT of looking around, I decided I didn't want to run a 240V
>> line and that this was the best out of everything on the market.
>>
>> The sale ended today, BUT I went online and got the sale price. It also
>> comes with a 10 PC tool kit, which irritates me, cause it's the same tools
>> I bought on E-Bay! I got them much cheaper on E-Bay, so I'll use them and
>> leave the new ones in the case until the ones I bought burn out..[/color]
>
> Oh well, I bought the 33 gal 240 volt. I bought it cheap off the floor. Yep.
> I had to install a 240 volt line, but my mistake was to use 2 conductor
> 10AWG romex, because I later needed a neutral conductor for 110 volts to
> power a contactor transformer and for lighting. This unit stays in one
> place, so no regrets about the 240 volts.[/color]


I have enough trouble with Electricity as it is!!! The wirig has never
been updated from it's 1957 origins, and am still running fuses.

I suppose, if I had bought the 240V model, it would have provided the
impetus to get the electrical upgraded...

What's the CFM rating on the 240V model?

It's not on the unit, but I remember 12+ CFM @ 40 and 8+ CFM at 90, but
don't quote me on that!


"./Hachiroku" <Levin@ae_86.gts> wrote in message
news:IZ9Ug.4483$dZ2.4011@trndny01...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:31:01 +0000, Dave M. wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01...[color=darkred]
>>> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>>>
>>> After doing a LOT of looking around, I decided I didn't want to run a
>>> 240V
>>> line and that this was the best out of everything on the market.
>>>
>>> The sale ended today, BUT I went online and got the sale price. It also
>>> comes with a 10 PC tool kit, which irritates me, cause it's the same
>>> tools
>>> I bought on E-Bay! I got them much cheaper on E-Bay, so I'll use them
>>> and
>>> leave the new ones in the case until the ones I bought burn out..[/color]
>>
>> Oh well, I bought the 33 gal 240 volt. I bought it cheap off the floor.
>> Yep.
>> I had to install a 240 volt line, but my mistake was to use 2 conductor
>> 10AWG romex, because I later needed a neutral conductor for 110 volts to
>> power a contactor transformer and for lighting. This unit stays in one
>> place, so no regrets about the 240 volts.[/color]
>
>
> I have enough trouble with Electricity as it is!!! The wirig has never
> been updated from it's 1957 origins, and am still running fuses.
>
> I suppose, if I had bought the 240V model, it would have provided the
> impetus to get the electrical upgraded...
>
> What's the CFM rating on the 240V model?
>
>[/color]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 16:41:07 +0000, Dave M. wrote:
[color=blue]
> It's not on the unit, but I remember 12+ CFM @ 40 and 8+ CFM at 90, but
> don't quote me on that![/color]


Holy Crap! That'll run almost anything without wheezing!
[color=blue]
>
>
> "./Hachiroku" <Levin@ae_86.gts> wrote in message
> news:IZ9Ug.4483$dZ2.4011@trndny01...[color=green]
>> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:31:01 +0000, Dave M. wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>>> news:LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01...
>>>> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>>>>
>>>> After doing a LOT of looking around, I decided I didn't want to run a
>>>> 240V
>>>> line and that this was the best out of everything on the market.
>>>>
>>>> The sale ended today, BUT I went online and got the sale price. It also
>>>> comes with a 10 PC tool kit, which irritates me, cause it's the same
>>>> tools
>>>> I bought on E-Bay! I got them much cheaper on E-Bay, so I'll use them
>>>> and
>>>> leave the new ones in the case until the ones I bought burn out..
>>>
>>> Oh well, I bought the 33 gal 240 volt. I bought it cheap off the floor.
>>> Yep.
>>> I had to install a 240 volt line, but my mistake was to use 2 conductor
>>> 10AWG romex, because I later needed a neutral conductor for 110 volts to
>>> power a contactor transformer and for lighting. This unit stays in one
>>> place, so no regrets about the 240 volts.[/color]
>>
>>
>> I have enough trouble with Electricity as it is!!! The wirig has never
>> been updated from it's 1957 origins, and am still running fuses.
>>
>> I suppose, if I had bought the 240V model, it would have provided the
>> impetus to get the electrical upgraded...
>>
>> What's the CFM rating on the 240V model?
>>
>>[/color][/color]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 01:39:38 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:[color=blue]
>On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:47:55 +0000, Andrew Stephenson wrote:[color=green]
>> In article <LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01> [email]Trueno@ae86.gts[/email] "Hachiroku" writes:[/color][/color]
[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90[/color]
>>
>> So now all you need now is a million party balloons?[/color]
>
>I can't separate out Helium![/color]

You're right about that - it's only in the atmosphere in trace
concentrations, and there's no easy or cheap way to make it yourself.

If you were running an air liquefaction plant and fractioning out
the constituents to get Helium, you'd have many tons of LN2 and
several tons of LOX (roughly 21% in air) to each pound of LHe.

If you want lots of Helium for cheap you sink a Natural Gas well in
certain areas of Texas, filter the Helium out as a byproduct and sell
it. Or you drill a Helium well and filter out the Natural Gas as a
byproduct and sell it, depending on how you want to look at it. ;-P

--<< Bruce >>--

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:31:01 GMT, "Dave M."
<gadget007@rochester.rr.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Oh well, I bought the 33 gal 240 volt. I bought it cheap off the floor. Yep.
>I had to install a 240 volt line, but my mistake was to use 2 conductor
>10AWG romex, because I later needed a neutral conductor for 110 volts to
>power a contactor transformer and for lighting. This unit stays in one
>place, so no regrets about the 240 volts.[/color]

Now remember, no cheating and running any 120V loads AT ALL from one
hot leg to ground unless it's an old clothes dryer or range/oven that
is specifically grandfathered... There is to be no active current
flowing on the safety ground wire for things like control
transformers, work lights, etc., it is for safety ground only.

A 208V/240V/277V/480V to 120V control transformer isn't too
expensive in the lower KVA ratings. (100W for ~$60, 150W for ~$75, and
you can often get them surplus for less.) And it gets you legal again.

Look at the coil on the contactor - most of them are dual voltage
and easily jumpered for the higher voltage. Then the only thing you
need the transformer for is the work light.

The only time I install 2-wire Romex is for AC condensing units
where you know they'll absolutely positively never need a neutral.
Ovens, Ranges, Dryers, everything else gets 3-wire, or conduit.

--<< Bruce >>--

For years I had a 20 gal 5 hp 220 v compressor (from sears) I used a home
made cord I plugged into the dryer receptacle when I needed a compressor.
Now I have a upright that can hold 100 psi while running a air nozzle or
sandblaster. MORE POWER! ( gruntgruntgrunt)

--
Stephen W. Hansen
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
ASE Undercar Specialist

[url]http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/bl_obd_main.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/[/url]
[url]http://www.familycar.com/Alignment.htm[/url]


"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
news:LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01...[color=blue]
> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>
> After doing a LOT of looking around, I decided I didn't want to run a 240V
> line and that this was the best out of everything on the market.
>
> The sale ended today, BUT I went online and got the sale price. It also
> comes with a 10 PC tool kit, which irritates me, cause it's the same tools
> I bought on E-Bay! I got them much cheaper on E-Bay, so I'll use them and
> leave the new ones in the case until the ones I bought burn out..[/color]

"./Hachiroku" <Levin@ae_86.gts> wrote in message news:IZ9Ug.4483$dZ2.4011@trndny01...[color=blue]
> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 04:31:01 +0000, Dave M. wrote:
>[color=green]
>>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01...[color=darkred]
>>> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>>>
>>> After doing a LOT of looking around, I decided I didn't want to run a 240V
>>> line and that this was the best out of everything on the market.
>>>
>>> The sale ended today, BUT I went online and got the sale price. It also
>>> comes with a 10 PC tool kit, which irritates me, cause it's the same tools
>>> I bought on E-Bay! I got them much cheaper on E-Bay, so I'll use them and
>>> leave the new ones in the case until the ones I bought burn out..[/color]
>>
>> Oh well, I bought the 33 gal 240 volt. I bought it cheap off the floor. Yep.
>> I had to install a 240 volt line, but my mistake was to use 2 conductor
>> 10AWG romex, because I later needed a neutral conductor for 110 volts to
>> power a contactor transformer and for lighting. This unit stays in one
>> place, so no regrets about the 240 volts.[/color]
>
>
> I have enough trouble with Electricity as it is!!! The wirig has never
> been updated from it's 1957 origins, and am still running fuses.
>
> I suppose, if I had bought the 240V model, it would have provided the
> impetus to get the electrical upgraded...
>
> What's the CFM rating on the 240V model?[/color]



A 1 HP motor is still a 1 HP motor @ 120 volts or 230 volts. They both do the same job
and use the same amount of energy all else being the same.

A air compressor that comes in 120 and 230 volt models most likely has the same motor
on both compressors.

Dan

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 02:12:08 +0000, Bruce L. Bergman wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 01:39:38 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:[color=green]
>>On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 15:47:55 +0000, Andrew Stephenson wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> In article <LCHTg.537$dZ2.9@trndny01> [email]Trueno@ae86.gts[/email] "Hachiroku" writes:[/color][/color]
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> It was on sale at Sears, a 33 Gal, 120V, 8.4 CFM@40 and 6.7CFM@90
>>>
>>> So now all you need now is a million party balloons?[/color]
>>
>>I can't separate out Helium![/color]
>
> You're right about that - it's only in the atmosphere in trace
> concentrations, and there's no easy or cheap way to make it yourself.
>
> If you were running an air liquefaction plant and fractioning out
> the constituents to get Helium, you'd have many tons of LN2 and
> several tons of LOX (roughly 21% in air) to each pound of LHe.
>
> If you want lots of Helium for cheap you sink a Natural Gas well in
> certain areas of Texas, filter the Helium out as a byproduct and sell
> it. Or you drill a Helium well and filter out the Natural Gas as a
> byproduct and sell it, depending on how you want to look at it. ;-P
>
> --<< Bruce >>--[/color]


I guess I'll just fill the balloons with air!

<snip>
[color=blue]
> This unit stays in one place, so no regrets about the 240 volts.[/color]

You also saved yourself a bundle if you were going to have a licensed
electrician do it. Here (Tucson, Arizona) a new 200 amp service panel
installed runs between $900 and $1,400. I recently had 240v installed
in my garage, one to run my compressor and another for a welder. Also
put in more lights and LOTS of outlets. Expensive? Yea, but it sure is
nice not to have to string extesion cords and power strips!
jor

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 06:54:27 -0700, jor wrote:
[color=blue]
> <snip>
>[color=green]
>> This unit stays in one place, so no regrets about the 240 volts.[/color]
>
> You also saved yourself a bundle if you were going to have a licensed
> electrician do it. Here (Tucson, Arizona) a new 200 amp service panel
> installed runs between $900 and $1,400. I recently had 240v installed
> in my garage, one to run my compressor and another for a welder. Also
> put in more lights and LOTS of outlets. Expensive? Yea, but it sure is
> nice not to have to string extesion cords and power strips!
> jor[/color]


That's how I'm operating now...

I want to have an electrician friend come in and split the basement (the
house is a sort of 'split level'; the front is at ground level and in the
rear the basement is exposed) where my garage is and put in a sub panel
for the garage and the other part, and take the load off the main panel.