Changed the Oil and the Usual Oil question (Synthetic) Revisited

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:48:44 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
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>On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:42:43 -0400, Stuart Krivis wrote:
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>> On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 15:39:53 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
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>>>> I tend to agree on this one. Unless youre thrashing the crackers off
>>>> your car or do extended heavy duty work, id rather use dino.
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>>>It didn't look like Dino oil when I drained it.[/color]
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>> How can you tell from the way it looks?[/color]
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>Instead of being a Golden *BLACK! ;), it was a Reddish brown, like bad
>Tranny fluid.[/color]

Maybe it _was_ bad tranny fluid. :-)

Hey Hach - Our local selling dealer (Lithia Toyota) has a "deal" that they
give, well not give, an oil/filter change 4 times/year or 3000 miles. The
price is/was $350 for so called lifetime. The filter is Toyota and I
specify castrol 5-30. The Avalon (3.5) uses 6 quarts so return isn't to bad
as I usually go 5 - 6 years on trades. BUT, I do stretch it a bit if on
long freeway runs to 4-4500 or so miles but sometimes the 3 months on Avalon
are under 2500 but are short trips (about 6 miles each way to wifes office)
so do it often.

How is the home of the "K" boys?

Ron
"Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:29:12 -0400, Stuart Krivis wrote:
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>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:04:33 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
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>>>Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don't
>>>think going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyota
>>>recommends 5,000 miles, eh?[/color]
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>> With short intervals like this between changes, and with normal
>> driving conditions, I don't think you'll see any difference other than
>> price between "dino" oil and "synthetic" oil.[/color]
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> That's why I want to shove an extra 500 miles between changes! ;)[/color]

On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 23:09:42 +0000, ron wrote:
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> Hey Hach - Our local selling dealer (Lithia Toyota) has a "deal" that they
> give, well not give, an oil/filter change 4 times/year or 3000 miles. The
> price is/was $350 for so called lifetime. The filter is Toyota and I
> specify castrol 5-30. The Avalon (3.5) uses 6 quarts so return isn't to bad
> as I usually go 5 - 6 years on trades. BUT, I do stretch it a bit if on
> long freeway runs to 4-4500 or so miles but sometimes the 3 months on Avalon
> are under 2500 but are short trips (about 6 miles each way to wifes office)
> so do it often.
>
> How is the home of the "K" boys?
>
> Ron[/color]

Actually, if you drive a lot, $350 is about 12 oil changes using synthetic
oil. I paid $35 for a '6-pack' and $6 for a filter! At 4 qts, and $5 a
filter from Toyota, that's $29 for a change. After 36,000 miles, that's
your $350. I used to rack that up in ONE YEAR when I was younger!


The K boys? Who are they? ;)[color=blue]
> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:29:12 -0400, Stuart Krivis wrote:
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>>> On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:04:33 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@ae86.gts> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don't
>>>>think going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyota
>>>>recommends 5,000 miles, eh?
>>>
>>> With short intervals like this between changes, and with normal
>>> driving conditions, I don't think you'll see any difference other than
>>> price between "dino" oil and "synthetic" oil.[/color]
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>>
>> That's why I want to shove an extra 500 miles between changes! ;)[/color][/color]

Hachiroku wrote:
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> >> >Since synthetic is supposed to be SO much better than Dino oil, I don't
> >> >think going 500 over 3K is going to do too much damage, esp when Toyota[/color][/color][/color]
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> It didn't look like Dino oil when I drained it.
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> Of course, I ahd already purchased the Castrol Syntec anyway. I was
> betting it was already on Synthetic, and figured, since it's the first
> "new" car I've had in almost 20 years, it would be a good car to use
> synthetic in![/color]

Mobil 1 has a new line of Extended Performance synthetic motor oils
that are supposed to last 15,000 miles. Based on some oil analysis data
I've read at bobistheoilguy.com, I feel completely safe using Mobil 1
Extended Performance for at least 10,000 miles between oil changes.
I've got about 180K on my '98 Sienna running 7000 - 8000 miles between
Mobil 1 (synthetic but not Extended Performance) oil changes (Purolator
PurOne filters). Engine operates good as new. Just switched the Sienna
over to Extended Performance.

Why do I run synthetic? Mainly sloth; I do half the number of oil
changes with synthetic (got 5 cars to service) and never worry about
matching viscosity to weather.