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Old 10-23-2006, 09:14 AM   #241 (permalink)
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On 23 Oct 2006 06:58:08 -0700, "Doug Reese" <dreese@erols.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Oh, and if there was no enemy fire involved, that in no way
>disqualifies it for a Purple Heart. In your little dream world it
>might, but as far as the military is concerned, that is absolutely NOT
>a requirement -- never has been . . . . selectively quote the
>regulations all you want, believe what you want . . . but enemy fire is
>not necessary.[/color]

I quote the requirements to receive the Purple Heart...





Authorization. Executive Order 9277 of 3 December 1942, E.O. 10409 of
12 November 1952, E.O. 11016 of 25 April 1962 as amended by E.O. 12464
of 23 February 1984, Public Law 98-525 of 19 October 1984, and Public
Law 105-85 of 18 November 1997.

Eligibility Requirements. Awarded to members of the Armed Forces of
the United States who, while serving under competent authority in any
capacity with an Armed Force of the United States after 5 April 1917,
has been killed or wounded.

In action against an enemy of the United States.

In action with an opposing armed force of a foreign country in which
the Armed Forces of the United States are or have been engaged.

While serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed
conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is
not a belligerent party.

As the result of an act of any such enemy or opposing armed force.

As the result of an act of any hostile foreign force.

As the result of friendly weapon fire while actively engaging the
enemy.

As the indirect result of enemy action. (example: injuries resulting
from parachuting from a plane brought down by enemy or hostile fire.)

As the result of maltreatment inflicted by their captors while a
prisoner of war.

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Scott in Florida

 
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:33 AM   #242 (permalink)
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In article <nejpj2l72mtn37dfa30d8og53im0t0ot77@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On 23 Oct 2006 06:58:08 -0700, "Doug Reese" <dreese@erols.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Oh, and if there was no enemy fire involved, that in no way
> >disqualifies it for a Purple Heart. In your little dream world it
> >might, but as far as the military is concerned, that is absolutely NOT
> >a requirement -- never has been . . . . selectively quote the
> >regulations all you want, believe what you want . . . but enemy fire is
> >not necessary.[/color]
>
> I quote the requirements to receive the Purple Heart...
>
>
>
>
>
> Authorization. Executive Order 9277 of 3 December 1942, E.O. 10409 of
> 12 November 1952, E.O. 11016 of 25 April 1962 as amended by E.O. 12464
> of 23 February 1984, Public Law 98-525 of 19 October 1984, and Public
> Law 105-85 of 18 November 1997.
>
> Eligibility Requirements. Awarded to members of the Armed Forces of
> the United States who, while serving under competent authority in any
> capacity with an Armed Force of the United States after 5 April 1917,
> has been killed or wounded.
>
> In action against an enemy of the United States.
>
> In action with an opposing armed force of a foreign country in which
> the Armed Forces of the United States are or have been engaged.
>
> While serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed
> conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is
> not a belligerent party.
>
> As the result of an act of any such enemy or opposing armed force.
>
> As the result of an act of any hostile foreign force.
>
> As the result of friendly weapon fire while actively engaging the
> enemy.
>
> As the indirect result of enemy action. (example: injuries resulting
> from parachuting from a plane brought down by enemy or hostile fire.)
>
> As the result of maltreatment inflicted by their captors while a
> prisoner of war.[/color]

I think the key here is "competent authority".

There are times when the military gives awards like candy.
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Old 10-23-2006, 11:08 AM   #243 (permalink)
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On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:33:03 GMT, " dbu." <howardyno@jackass.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <nejpj2l72mtn37dfa30d8og53im0t0ot77@4ax.com>,
> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On 23 Oct 2006 06:58:08 -0700, "Doug Reese" <dreese@erols.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >Oh, and if there was no enemy fire involved, that in no way
>> >disqualifies it for a Purple Heart. In your little dream world it
>> >might, but as far as the military is concerned, that is absolutely NOT
>> >a requirement -- never has been . . . . selectively quote the
>> >regulations all you want, believe what you want . . . but enemy fire is
>> >not necessary.[/color]
>>
>> I quote the requirements to receive the Purple Heart...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Authorization. Executive Order 9277 of 3 December 1942, E.O. 10409 of
>> 12 November 1952, E.O. 11016 of 25 April 1962 as amended by E.O. 12464
>> of 23 February 1984, Public Law 98-525 of 19 October 1984, and Public
>> Law 105-85 of 18 November 1997.
>>
>> Eligibility Requirements. Awarded to members of the Armed Forces of
>> the United States who, while serving under competent authority in any
>> capacity with an Armed Force of the United States after 5 April 1917,
>> has been killed or wounded.
>>
>> In action against an enemy of the United States.
>>
>> In action with an opposing armed force of a foreign country in which
>> the Armed Forces of the United States are or have been engaged.
>>
>> While serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed
>> conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is
>> not a belligerent party.
>>
>> As the result of an act of any such enemy or opposing armed force.
>>
>> As the result of an act of any hostile foreign force.
>>
>> As the result of friendly weapon fire while actively engaging the
>> enemy.
>>
>> As the indirect result of enemy action. (example: injuries resulting
>> from parachuting from a plane brought down by enemy or hostile fire.)
>>
>> As the result of maltreatment inflicted by their captors while a
>> prisoner of war.[/color]
>
>I think the key here is "competent authority".
>
>There are times when the military gives awards like candy.[/color]

It seems they did to our friend Kerry (the traitor)...

--

Scott in Florida

 
Old 10-23-2006, 07:29 PM   #244 (permalink)
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Scott in Florida wrote:[color=blue]
> On 23 Oct 2006 06:58:08 -0700, "Doug Reese" <dreese@erols.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Oh, and if there was no enemy fire involved, that in no way
> >disqualifies it for a Purple Heart. In your little dream world it
> >might, but as far as the military is concerned, that is absolutely NOT
> >a requirement -- never has been . . . . selectively quote the
> >regulations all you want, believe what you want . . . but enemy fire is
> >not necessary.[/color]
>
> I quote the requirements to receive the Purple Heart...[/color]

And I point out, once again, some of those requirements that may apply
here.

And once again, either you are remarkably stupid, or are so blinded by
hate that you can't see that these requirements easily cover Kerry's
situation, wherever it was . . . . .
[color=blue]
> Authorization. Executive Order 9277 of 3 December 1942, E.O. 10409 of
> 12 November 1952, E.O. 11016 of 25 April 1962 as amended by E.O. 12464
> of 23 February 1984, Public Law 98-525 of 19 October 1984, and Public
> Law 105-85 of 18 November 1997.
>
> Eligibility Requirements. Awarded to members of the Armed Forces of
> the United States who, while serving under competent authority in any
> capacity with an Armed Force of the United States after 5 April 1917,
> has been killed or wounded.
>
> In action against an enemy of the United States.
>
> In action with an opposing armed force of a foreign country in which
> the Armed Forces of the United States are or have been engaged.
>
> While serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed
> conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is
> not a belligerent party.
>[/color]

OK . . .

As the result of an act of any such enemy or opposing armed force.

OK . . .

As the result of an act of any hostile foreign force.

OK . . . .

As the result of friendly weapon fire while actively engaging the
enemy.

And lastly, OK . . .

As the indirect result of enemy action. (example: injuries resulting
from parachuting from a plane brought down by enemy or hostile fire.)

Doug in Saigon
[color=blue]
> As the result of maltreatment inflicted by their captors while a
> prisoner of war.
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida[/color]

 
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