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Old 10-20-2006, 01:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OT How are you Dims doing in Connecticut?

How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?


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"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
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> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?[/color]

I don't know. How's he doing?


 
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In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
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> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?[/color]

Lieberman by 17.

[url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]

If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the Senate?
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"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
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> In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?[/color]
>
> Lieberman by 17.
>
> [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
>
> If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the Senate?
> --
>[/color]

Liberman is the lowest form of trash.


 
Old 10-20-2006, 03:42 PM   #5 (permalink)
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:17:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
<dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
>news:howardyno-FFE1DD.14144320102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=green]
>> In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
>> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?[/color]
>>
>> Lieberman by 17.
>>
>> [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
>>
>> If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the Senate?
>> --
>>[/color]
>
>Liberman is the lowest form of trash.
>[/color]

I don't know about that. He seems to be the type who sticks to his
guns and votes as he feels is right.

From what I've seen, he's done what he said he was going to do.

 
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"Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:17:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
>>news:howardyno-FFE1DD.14144320102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=darkred]
>>> In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
>>> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?
>>>
>>> Lieberman by 17.
>>>
>>> [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
>>>
>>> If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the Senate?
>>> --
>>>[/color]
>>
>>Liberman is the lowest form of trash.
>>[/color]
>
> I don't know about that. He seems to be the type who sticks to his
> guns and votes as he feels is right.
>
> From what I've seen, he's done what he said he was going to do.
>[/color]

As long as he's doing the right thing, that's fine.

Bush's Favorite Democrat



In Connecticut's Democratic primary, Joe Lieberman claims he's facing a
leftist "jihad," but there are two words the senator can't duck: "Iraq" and
"war" (BY MATT TAIBBI)



MATT TAIBBI



Early Sunday afternoon, Beulah Heights First Pentecostal Church, New Haven,
Connecticut. A hot summer day with an all-black congregation, a big hall in
a tough neighborhood packed full to the last pew, with the faithful cooling
themselves with old-fashioned hand-held fans. Sen. Joe Lieberman, a pale
animal with a balloon head, stands at the podium and smiles, his gnomish
Wallace Shawn mini-fingers piously clasped before him.



As an orator, Lieberman is a pro's pro. No matter what the crowd, his rap
always has the feel of a barroom Casanova's metronome come-on. He talks and
talks, and five minutes later you can't figure out how his hand got that far
up your skirt. He is especially brilliant in this particular environment, an
absolute master of the "my heart is as black as yours" honkie-in-church act.
He swoops in, tells a story about meeting Dr. King back in the day, shakes
his head solemnly at the scourge of racism and then coasts to a
Scripture-packed dismount. Clear throat; assume sonorous, preacherly intone;
dream aloud of a better day ahead, a day when . . .



"When the mountains will be made low, when the valleys will be raised up,
when the rough road will be made smooth and the crooked path will be made
straight," he says. "Because on that day, with God's help, the Earth truly
will be full of the knowledge of the Lord."



Jesus, I think. This guy's good. He pauses, smiling, for applause. Then:



"Thank you! Enjoy lunch!"



And he's outta there. The whole thing takes about eight minutes. You can
keep your political speeches pretty short in the year 2006 if you don't once
mention the words "war" or "Iraq." Next stop: firemen in Fairfield. I'm
still gathering my shit in the church foyer when I see his caravan zooming
past the entrance, back toward the highway.



The scene says everything you need to know about the modern Democratic
Party. It spends its weekdays sucking off the Pentagon and Wall Street and
the pharmaceutical industry, and on the weekends it comes out and spends
five minutes getting teary-eyed for the "I have a dream" speech and thinks
you owe it your vote because of it. Some party members agree, but quite a
few don't, which is why Joe Lieberman-the hawkish one-time vice-presidential
candidate who has made himself the most visible symbol of the "new"
Democrats-is facing a surprising primary challenge on August 8th. Like
Lieberman himself, the "I was there in the Sixties" act is finally getting
old.



"I hate the Sixties, and I'm tired of hearing about it-what have you done
for me lately?" says Regina Meade, one of the churchgoers. She shakes her
head. "I lost a cousin in the war. Twenty-nine years old. What about that?
What about that?"



Billed as a preview to the midterm elections later this fall, with
implications for the '08 presidential race, the Democratic primary for the
Senate in Connecticut is a hot little turd attracting, for the first time
since November '04, the exiled flies of national campaign journalism. They
are here in Connecticut now, searching angrily for good coffee and road maps
in precious little towns like Wallingford, Fairfield and Danbury, where
Lieberman is currently even in the polls with an anti-war challenger in the
person of a wide-eyed political rookie named Ned Lamont.



If you believe the propaganda emanating from Lieberman and his coterie of
whore-cronies in the Democratic Leadership Council, Lamont is a dangerous,
pillar-crushing revolutionary, a preppy, tanned mixture of Lenin and the
Ayatollah. The Democrat insiders' strategy vis-à-vis Lamont is very similar
to the one used to dispose of Howard Dean a few years back, only it's even
more savage this time around: They have chosen to go after Lamont's
supporters in the blogosphere, deriding the likes of "Daily Kos" founder
Markos Moulitsas Zuniga and the wackos at MoveOn.org as "liberal
fundamentalists" bent on liquidating poor Lieberman for the sake of radical
leftist orthodoxy. The DLC started the smear campaign in June with an
editorial called "The Return of Liberal Fundamentalism" that used the word
"purge" no fewer than eight times, in case you missed the KGB motif the
first seven times.



Since then, a spate of similar editorials has appeared in the national
media, with anyone and everyone jumping on the theme of blood-hungry blogger
leftists scheming to take over the world via the Lamont campaign-from New
York Times elitist fuckhead David Brooks ("The Liberal Inquisition") to
Jonathan Chait at The Los Angeles Times ("Purely Foolish Democrats") to
those always-predictable bards of conventional wisdom at Newsweek ("The
War's Left Front"). The whole campaign was a classic bit of bait-and-switch:
Rather than face up to its own record on the war, the party tried to defend
its own by making the race into a referendum on "leftist" Internet pests,
some with suspiciously foreign-sounding names.



And just like three summers ago, when the media cheerfully regurgitated
party-concocted code words like "angry," "shrill," "testy" and "strident"
when discussing the doomed Howard Dean, reporters this time around made sure
to repeat the same terrorist/communist-themed code words in their campaign
coverage, with nearly every major media outlet including some combination of
the words "purge" or "fundamentalist" in their Lamont stories. New York
magazine went so far as to call Lamont's net-roots supporters the
"Blogitburo," and Lieberman himself, in an interview, derided his opponents'
supporters as being on a "jihad."



This witch-hunting horseshit was preposterous enough, when the DLC and its
ilk somehow succeeded in painting a tepid, pro-business centrist from the
Hamptons like Dean as the second coming of Karl Marx. But that was nothing
compared to the stretch they're making in playing the red-baiting game with
Lamont, a Richie Rich Harvard capitalist from the socioeconomic Olympus of
Greenwich whose expensively wavy haircut and crisp, supernaturally clean
chinos would bring a tear to the eye of the mannequin in the Pebble Beach
Pro Shop.



The only thing radical about Lamont is his opposition to the Iraq War
policies of George Bush and Lieberman, and in this vague "radicalism" he is
joined by upward of ninety-one percent of all Democrats, according to recent
polls; otherwise, he is as vanilla and unthreatening as a politician could
possibly be, the human incarnation of the white line in the middle of the
road. Lamont's non-Iraq politics are not much more than a cautious
presentation of already-tried mainstream party ideas, like permitting the
uninsured to buy into the congressional health plan, and his stump humor is
the gentlest kind of aw-shucks Americana-when he gets applause or cheers
from the back of the room, he calls out, "Thanks, Mom!"



When I sat down and talked with Lamont on a park bench after an appearance
in Wallingford, he was plainly horrified when I compared the attacks against
him to the campaign against Dean. "I hadn't thought about that," he said,
adding quickly, "What you have to remember is that I'm a business guy from
central Connecticut."



He talked about the assault from the party regulars: "Well, I've got
grass-roots support that is perceived as a threat to the established order,"
he said. Then he scratched his head. "But it's weird. It's like there's a
signal sent down from somewhere. The other day I was with this reporter from
The New York Observer, and he was reading down a list of talking points: Why
is it that bipartisanship can't exist in the party? Are you a pacifist? And
so on. And I was like, 'Man, where is this coming from?' "



Of course it's fairly obvious where it's coming from. Even the most casual
Democratic voters understand by now that there is a schism within the party,
one that pits "party insiders" steeped in the inside-baseball muck of
Washington money culture against . . . well, against us, the actual voters.



The insiders have for many years running now succeeded in convincing their
voters that their actual beliefs are hopeless losers in the general
electoral arena, and that certain compromises must be made if the party is
ever to regain power.



This defeatist nonsense is sold to the public in the form of beady-eyed
party hacks talking to one another in the opinion pages of national media
conglomerates, where, after much verbose and solemn discussion, the earnest
and idealistic candidate the public actually likes is dismissed on the
grounds that "he can't win." In his place is trotted out the guy the party
honchos insist to us is the real "winner"-some balding, bent little
bureaucrat who has grown prematurely elderly before our very eyes over the
course of ten or twenty years of sad, compromise-filled service in the House
or the Senate.



This "winner" is then given a lavish parade and sent out there on the trail,
and we hold our noses as he campaigns in our name on a platform of Jesus,
the B-2 bomber and the death penalty for eleven-year-olds, consoling
ourselves that he at least isn't in favor of repealing the Voting Rights
Act. (Or is he? We have to check.) Then he loses to the Republicans anyway
and we start all over again-beginning with the next primary election, when
we are again told that the anti-war candidate "can't win" and that the smart
bet is the corporate hunchback still wearing two black eyes from the last
race.



No one has played the role of that "winner" more enthusiastically, or more
often, than Joe Lieberman. He is everything a Washington insider loves in a
politician. He is pompous, pious and available. Routinely one of the very
top recipients of campaign donations from the insurance, pharmaceutical and
finance sectors, and a man whose wife, Hadassah, is a
pharmaceutical-industry lobbyist for Hill and Knowlton, Lieberman has
quietly become one of the greatest allies corporate America has in
Washington.



For example, Lieberman, who as chairman of the DLC in the mid to late
Nineties presided over an organization heavily subsidized by companies such
as AIG and Aetna (the latter of which also contributes lavishly to his
campaigns), sponsored a bill that limited auto insurance suits by permitting
the offering of lower rates to consumers who forfeited their right to sue.
He has fought for similar anti-lawsuit laws for tobacco, for HMOs, for
pharmaceutical companies. Victor Schwartz, general counsel for the American
Tort Reform Association, once bragged that "if it were not for Lieberman,
there would never have been a Biomaterials Access Act"-a 1998 law that
protected companies like Dow Chemical and DuPont (also big DLC contributors)
from lawsuits filed for the production of defective medical implants. Yes,
that's right: Joe Lieberman fought for the principle of manufacturing faulty
fake tits with impunity.



In a move that was perfectly characteristic of everything he stands for,
Lieberman in 2001 offered a piece of legislation, S. 1764, that purported to
provide incentives to companies that develop medicines to treat the victims
of bioterror attacks but, more important, extended the patent life of a wide
range of drugs for several years, delaying the introduction of more
cost-friendly generic drugs. Shilling for the socialist subsidy of drug
companies while masquerading as a Churchillian, tough-on-security Democrat
in the War on Terror age: That's Joe Lieberman, and the modern Democratic
Party, in a nutshell.



In the midst of all this whoring for business interests, Lieberman has
preposterously marketed himself to the public as a stern guardian of
"morality" and "traditional values," along the way taking some admirably
mean-spirited positions. He once supported a bill denying funding to public
schools that counseled suicidal teens that it is OK to be gay, a remarkable
position for a man whose response to the Enron scandal was to say that
"government will never be able to legislate or regulate morals."



Lieberman also signed the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, the
notorious organization founded by Lynne Cheney that published a baldly
McCarthyite list of "anti-American academics." In 1997, Lieberman pushed for
warning labels on CDs, getting the Senate to take up the issue under the
title "Music Violence: How Does It Affect Our Youth?" in the hopes of
snagging the votes of a few grandmas by wagging a finger at Marilyn
Manson-yes, Lieberman was one of those asshole politicians who tried to pin
Columbine on rock music. And rather than denounce Ken Starr for the most
egregious misuse of prosecutorial authority since the House Un-American
Activities Committee, Lieberman's response to the Lewinsky scandal was to
attack Bill Clinton in one of the lamest "O the children!" acts of all time,
saying, "It is hard to ignore the impact of the misconduct the president has
admitted to on our children, our culture and our national character."



A few years later, faced with a similar political choice, he chose to stand
fast by Bush on the issue of Iraq, saying, "We undermine the president's
credibility at our nation's peril." Apparently the president deserves
absolute loyalty only when his mistakes result in teenagers getting their
heads shot off.



It was this last position of Lieberman's that forced the candidacy of Lamont
into being. "We're trying to determine what the right boundary is on a
Democrat," says Lamont spokesman Robert Johnson. "We know what the left
boundary is. But what is it on the right? At some point, when a Democrat is
sucking up to a president like George Bush, you have to put your foot down.
Lieberman does not stop at a 'center.' The further right they go, he just
follows."



But, of course, Lieberman's crowning insult-and perhaps his last fatal
mistake as an (ostensible) member of the Democratic Party-was his recent
decision to register and run as an independent in case he loses the primary
to Lamont. Finally taking his mask off and revealing himself as a baldly
self-interested political creature, this final-act version of Lieberman
plans on dying hard, forcing liberal voters to kill him twice in the same
movie, like Jason in Friday the 13th.



With his hideous fake folksiness, much-celebrated "great sense of humor" and
relentless Beltway hype as just the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet
(David Brooks calls him "transparently the most kindhearted and
well-intentioned of men"), Joe Lieberman is easy to hate-which makes him
easy to hate for the wrong reasons. Sure, he's an arrogant, condescending
prude; sure, he's a willing, energetic censor who outrageously poses as an
aggrieved champion of "decent people everywhere"; and sure, he reminds you
very much of the lecturing, overbearing high school vice principal you once
had who ended up getting busted on a kiddie-porn rap ten years after you
graduated.



But all of that means nothing. What is important to remember about Joe
Lieberman is that his individual personality is incidental. Lieberman is
just another "winner" to be rolled off the line and served up to Democratic
voters by the behind-the-scenes corporate masters bent on controlling both
sides of Washington politics, using whatever scare tactics necessary to
ensure success. He's a pawn and a stooge whom they've gotten good mileage
out of so far because he happens to have a special talent for being just the
kind of officious, self-righteous prick you have to be to sell their muddled
policies in public-but his time is up now, and not because of him but
because of them. People are tired of being told who can and cannot win. As
it turns out, they get to decide that for themselves.


 
Old 10-20-2006, 04:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
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In article <7h9_g.3565$ya1.1034@news02.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
> news:howardyno-FFE1DD.14144320102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=green]
> > In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
> > Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?[/color]
> >
> > Lieberman by 17.
> >
> > [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
> >
> > If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the Senate?
> > --
> >[/color]
>
> Liberman is the lowest form of trash.[/color]

Why do you say that?
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:15:28 GMT, dbu <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?[/color]
>
>Lieberman by 17.
>
>[url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
>
>If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the Senate?[/color]

It sure does....


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In article <HVa_g.3539$Ka1.2953@news01.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
> news:90dij2todm05cgqdvr0dmvnlmrvdd89e3v@4ax.com...[color=green]
> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:17:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> > <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >>"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
> >>news:howardyno-FFE1DD.14144320102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >>> In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
> >>> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?
> >>>
> >>> Lieberman by 17.
> >>>
> >>> [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
> >>>
> >>> If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the Senate?
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>
> >>Liberman is the lowest form of trash.
> >>[/color]
> >
> > I don't know about that. He seems to be the type who sticks to his
> > guns and votes as he feels is right.
> >
> > From what I've seen, he's done what he said he was going to do.
> >[/color]
>
> As long as he's doing the right thing, that's fine.
>
> Bush's Favorite Democrat
>[/color]


Below is written by a demmie who wants to get his power back. More
trash in the media. I like Joe. He sticks up for what is right, he has
principles. He is up 17 pts in the latest poll.

[color=blue]
>
>
> In Connecticut's Democratic primary, Joe Lieberman claims he's facing a
> leftist "jihad," but there are two words the senator can't duck: "Iraq" and
> "war" (BY MATT TAIBBI)
>
>
>
> MATT TAIBBI
>
>
>
> Early Sunday afternoon, Beulah Heights First Pentecostal Church, New Haven,
> Connecticut. A hot summer day with an all-black congregation, a big hall in
> a tough neighborhood packed full to the last pew, with the faithful cooling
> themselves with old-fashioned hand-held fans. Sen. Joe Lieberman, a pale
> animal with a balloon head, stands at the podium and smiles, his gnomish
> Wallace Shawn mini-fingers piously clasped before him.
>
>
>
> As an orator, Lieberman is a pro's pro. No matter what the crowd, his rap
> always has the feel of a barroom Casanova's metronome come-on. He talks and
> talks, and five minutes later you can't figure out how his hand got that far
> up your skirt. He is especially brilliant in this particular environment, an
> absolute master of the "my heart is as black as yours" honkie-in-church act.
> He swoops in, tells a story about meeting Dr. King back in the day, shakes
> his head solemnly at the scourge of racism and then coasts to a
> Scripture-packed dismount. Clear throat; assume sonorous, preacherly intone;
> dream aloud of a better day ahead, a day when . . .
>
>
>
> "When the mountains will be made low, when the valleys will be raised up,
> when the rough road will be made smooth and the crooked path will be made
> straight," he says. "Because on that day, with God's help, the Earth truly
> will be full of the knowledge of the Lord."
>
>
>
> Jesus, I think. This guy's good. He pauses, smiling, for applause. Then:
>
>
>
> "Thank you! Enjoy lunch!"
>
>
>
> And he's outta there. The whole thing takes about eight minutes. You can
> keep your political speeches pretty short in the year 2006 if you don't once
> mention the words "war" or "Iraq." Next stop: firemen in Fairfield. I'm
> still gathering my shit in the church foyer when I see his caravan zooming
> past the entrance, back toward the highway.
>
>
>
> The scene says everything you need to know about the modern Democratic
> Party. It spends its weekdays sucking off the Pentagon and Wall Street and
> the pharmaceutical industry, and on the weekends it comes out and spends
> five minutes getting teary-eyed for the "I have a dream" speech and thinks
> you owe it your vote because of it. Some party members agree, but quite a
> few don't, which is why Joe Lieberman-the hawkish one-time vice-presidential
> candidate who has made himself the most visible symbol of the "new"
> Democrats-is facing a surprising primary challenge on August 8th. Like
> Lieberman himself, the "I was there in the Sixties" act is finally getting
> old.
>
>
>
> "I hate the Sixties, and I'm tired of hearing about it-what have you done
> for me lately?" says Regina Meade, one of the churchgoers. She shakes her
> head. "I lost a cousin in the war. Twenty-nine years old. What about that?
> What about that?"
>
>
>
> Billed as a preview to the midterm elections later this fall, with
> implications for the '08 presidential race, the Democratic primary for the
> Senate in Connecticut is a hot little turd attracting, for the first time
> since November '04, the exiled flies of national campaign journalism. They
> are here in Connecticut now, searching angrily for good coffee and road maps
> in precious little towns like Wallingford, Fairfield and Danbury, where
> Lieberman is currently even in the polls with an anti-war challenger in the
> person of a wide-eyed political rookie named Ned Lamont.
>
>
>
> If you believe the propaganda emanating from Lieberman and his coterie of
> whore-cronies in the Democratic Leadership Council, Lamont is a dangerous,
> pillar-crushing revolutionary, a preppy, tanned mixture of Lenin and the
> Ayatollah. The Democrat insiders' strategy vis-à-vis Lamont is very similar
> to the one used to dispose of Howard Dean a few years back, only it's even
> more savage this time around: They have chosen to go after Lamont's
> supporters in the blogosphere, deriding the likes of "Daily Kos" founder
> Markos Moulitsas Zuniga and the wackos at MoveOn.org as "liberal
> fundamentalists" bent on liquidating poor Lieberman for the sake of radical
> leftist orthodoxy. The DLC started the smear campaign in June with an
> editorial called "The Return of Liberal Fundamentalism" that used the word
> "purge" no fewer than eight times, in case you missed the KGB motif the
> first seven times.
>
>
>
> Since then, a spate of similar editorials has appeared in the national
> media, with anyone and everyone jumping on the theme of blood-hungry blogger
> leftists scheming to take over the world via the Lamont campaign-from New
> York Times elitist fuckhead David Brooks ("The Liberal Inquisition") to
> Jonathan Chait at The Los Angeles Times ("Purely Foolish Democrats") to
> those always-predictable bards of conventional wisdom at Newsweek ("The
> War's Left Front"). The whole campaign was a classic bit of bait-and-switch:
> Rather than face up to its own record on the war, the party tried to defend
> its own by making the race into a referendum on "leftist" Internet pests,
> some with suspiciously foreign-sounding names.
>
>
>
> And just like three summers ago, when the media cheerfully regurgitated
> party-concocted code words like "angry," "shrill," "testy" and "strident"
> when discussing the doomed Howard Dean, reporters this time around made sure
> to repeat the same terrorist/communist-themed code words in their campaign
> coverage, with nearly every major media outlet including some combination of
> the words "purge" or "fundamentalist" in their Lamont stories. New York
> magazine went so far as to call Lamont's net-roots supporters the
> "Blogitburo," and Lieberman himself, in an interview, derided his opponents'
> supporters as being on a "jihad."
>
>
>
> This witch-hunting horseshit was preposterous enough, when the DLC and its
> ilk somehow succeeded in painting a tepid, pro-business centrist from the
> Hamptons like Dean as the second coming of Karl Marx. But that was nothing
> compared to the stretch they're making in playing the red-baiting game with
> Lamont, a Richie Rich Harvard capitalist from the socioeconomic Olympus of
> Greenwich whose expensively wavy haircut and crisp, supernaturally clean
> chinos would bring a tear to the eye of the mannequin in the Pebble Beach
> Pro Shop.
>
>
>
> The only thing radical about Lamont is his opposition to the Iraq War
> policies of George Bush and Lieberman, and in this vague "radicalism" he is
> joined by upward of ninety-one percent of all Democrats, according to recent
> polls; otherwise, he is as vanilla and unthreatening as a politician could
> possibly be, the human incarnation of the white line in the middle of the
> road. Lamont's non-Iraq politics are not much more than a cautious
> presentation of already-tried mainstream party ideas, like permitting the
> uninsured to buy into the congressional health plan, and his stump humor is
> the gentlest kind of aw-shucks Americana-when he gets applause or cheers
> from the back of the room, he calls out, "Thanks, Mom!"
>
>
>
> When I sat down and talked with Lamont on a park bench after an appearance
> in Wallingford, he was plainly horrified when I compared the attacks against
> him to the campaign against Dean. "I hadn't thought about that," he said,
> adding quickly, "What you have to remember is that I'm a business guy from
> central Connecticut."
>
>
>
> He talked about the assault from the party regulars: "Well, I've got
> grass-roots support that is perceived as a threat to the established order,"
> he said. Then he scratched his head. "But it's weird. It's like there's a
> signal sent down from somewhere. The other day I was with this reporter from
> The New York Observer, and he was reading down a list of talking points: Why
> is it that bipartisanship can't exist in the party? Are you a pacifist? And
> so on. And I was like, 'Man, where is this coming from?' "
>
>
>
> Of course it's fairly obvious where it's coming from. Even the most casual
> Democratic voters understand by now that there is a schism within the party,
> one that pits "party insiders" steeped in the inside-baseball muck of
> Washington money culture against . . . well, against us, the actual voters.
>
>
>
> The insiders have for many years running now succeeded in convincing their
> voters that their actual beliefs are hopeless losers in the general
> electoral arena, and that certain compromises must be made if the party is
> ever to regain power.
>
>
>
> This defeatist nonsense is sold to the public in the form of beady-eyed
> party hacks talking to one another in the opinion pages of national media
> conglomerates, where, after much verbose and solemn discussion, the earnest
> and idealistic candidate the public actually likes is dismissed on the
> grounds that "he can't win." In his place is trotted out the guy the party
> honchos insist to us is the real "winner"-some balding, bent little
> bureaucrat who has grown prematurely elderly before our very eyes over the
> course of ten or twenty years of sad, compromise-filled service in the House
> or the Senate.
>
>
>
> This "winner" is then given a lavish parade and sent out there on the trail,
> and we hold our noses as he campaigns in our name on a platform of Jesus,
> the B-2 bomber and the death penalty for eleven-year-olds, consoling
> ourselves that he at least isn't in favor of repealing the Voting Rights
> Act. (Or is he? We have to check.) Then he loses to the Republicans anyway
> and we start all over again-beginning with the next primary election, when
> we are again told that the anti-war candidate "can't win" and that the smart
> bet is the corporate hunchback still wearing two black eyes from the last
> race.
>
>
>
> No one has played the role of that "winner" more enthusiastically, or more
> often, than Joe Lieberman. He is everything a Washington insider loves in a
> politician. He is pompous, pious and available. Routinely one of the very
> top recipients of campaign donations from the insurance, pharmaceutical and
> finance sectors, and a man whose wife, Hadassah, is a
> pharmaceutical-industry lobbyist for Hill and Knowlton, Lieberman has
> quietly become one of the greatest allies corporate America has in
> Washington.
>
>
>
> For example, Lieberman, who as chairman of the DLC in the mid to late
> Nineties presided over an organization heavily subsidized by companies such
> as AIG and Aetna (the latter of which also contributes lavishly to his
> campaigns), sponsored a bill that limited auto insurance suits by permitting
> the offering of lower rates to consumers who forfeited their right to sue.
> He has fought for similar anti-lawsuit laws for tobacco, for HMOs, for
> pharmaceutical companies. Victor Schwartz, general counsel for the American
> Tort Reform Association, once bragged that "if it were not for Lieberman,
> there would never have been a Biomaterials Access Act"-a 1998 law that
> protected companies like Dow Chemical and DuPont (also big DLC contributors)
> from lawsuits filed for the production of defective medical implants. Yes,
> that's right: Joe Lieberman fought for the principle of manufacturing faulty
> fake tits with impunity.
>
>
>
> In a move that was perfectly characteristic of everything he stands for,
> Lieberman in 2001 offered a piece of legislation, S. 1764, that purported to
> provide incentives to companies that develop medicines to treat the victims
> of bioterror attacks but, more important, extended the patent life of a wide
> range of drugs for several years, delaying the introduction of more
> cost-friendly generic drugs. Shilling for the socialist subsidy of drug
> companies while masquerading as a Churchillian, tough-on-security Democrat
> in the War on Terror age: That's Joe Lieberman, and the modern Democratic
> Party, in a nutshell.
>
>
>
> In the midst of all this whoring for business interests, Lieberman has
> preposterously marketed himself to the public as a stern guardian of
> "morality" and "traditional values," along the way taking some admirably
> mean-spirited positions. He once supported a bill denying funding to public
> schools that counseled suicidal teens that it is OK to be gay, a remarkable
> position for a man whose response to the Enron scandal was to say that
> "government will never be able to legislate or regulate morals."
>
>
>
> Lieberman also signed the American Council of Trustees and Alumni, the
> notorious organization founded by Lynne Cheney that published a baldly
> McCarthyite list of "anti-American academics." In 1997, Lieberman pushed for
> warning labels on CDs, getting the Senate to take up the issue under the
> title "Music Violence: How Does It Affect Our Youth?" in the hopes of
> snagging the votes of a few grandmas by wagging a finger at Marilyn
> Manson-yes, Lieberman was one of those asshole politicians who tried to pin
> Columbine on rock music. And rather than denounce Ken Starr for the most
> egregious misuse of prosecutorial authority since the House Un-American
> Activities Committee, Lieberman's response to the Lewinsky scandal was to
> attack Bill Clinton in one of the lamest "O the children!" acts of all time,
> saying, "It is hard to ignore the impact of the misconduct the president has
> admitted to on our children, our culture and our national character."
>
>
>
> A few years later, faced with a similar political choice, he chose to stand
> fast by Bush on the issue of Iraq, saying, "We undermine the president's
> credibility at our nation's peril." Apparently the president deserves
> absolute loyalty only when his mistakes result in teenagers getting their
> heads shot off.
>
>
>
> It was this last position of Lieberman's that forced the candidacy of Lamont
> into being. "We're trying to determine what the right boundary is on a
> Democrat," says Lamont spokesman Robert Johnson. "We know what the left
> boundary is. But what is it on the right? At some point, when a Democrat is
> sucking up to a president like George Bush, you have to put your foot down.
> Lieberman does not stop at a 'center.' The further right they go, he just
> follows."
>
>
>
> But, of course, Lieberman's crowning insult-and perhaps his last fatal
> mistake as an (ostensible) member of the Democratic Party-was his recent
> decision to register and run as an independent in case he loses the primary
> to Lamont. Finally taking his mask off and revealing himself as a baldly
> self-interested political creature, this final-act version of Lieberman
> plans on dying hard, forcing liberal voters to kill him twice in the same
> movie, like Jason in Friday the 13th.
>
>
>
> With his hideous fake folksiness, much-celebrated "great sense of humor" and
> relentless Beltway hype as just the nicest guy you'd ever want to meet
> (David Brooks calls him "transparently the most kindhearted and
> well-intentioned of men"), Joe Lieberman is easy to hate-which makes him
> easy to hate for the wrong reasons. Sure, he's an arrogant, condescending
> prude; sure, he's a willing, energetic censor who outrageously poses as an
> aggrieved champion of "decent people everywhere"; and sure, he reminds you
> very much of the lecturing, overbearing high school vice principal you once
> had who ended up getting busted on a kiddie-porn rap ten years after you
> graduated.
>
>
>
> But all of that means nothing. What is important to remember about Joe
> Lieberman is that his individual personality is incidental. Lieberman is
> just another "winner" to be rolled off the line and served up to Democratic
> voters by the behind-the-scenes corporate masters bent on controlling both
> sides of Washington politics, using whatever scare tactics necessary to
> ensure success. He's a pawn and a stooge whom they've gotten good mileage
> out of so far because he happens to have a special talent for being just the
> kind of officious, self-righteous prick you have to be to sell their muddled
> policies in public-but his time is up now, and not because of him but
> because of them. People are tired of being told who can and cannot win. As
> it turns out, they get to decide that for themselves.[/color]
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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:35:34 GMT, dbu <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <HVa_g.3539$Ka1.2953@news01.roc.ny>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
>> news:90dij2todm05cgqdvr0dmvnlmrvdd89e3v@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:17:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> > <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >>"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
>> >>news:howardyno-FFE1DD.14144320102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> >>> In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
>> >>> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?
>> >>>
>> >>> Lieberman by 17.
>> >>>
>> >>> [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
>> >>>
>> >>> If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the Senate?
>> >>> --
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>Liberman is the lowest form of trash.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I don't know about that. He seems to be the type who sticks to his
>> > guns and votes as he feels is right.
>> >
>> > From what I've seen, he's done what he said he was going to do.
>> >[/color]
>>
>> As long as he's doing the right thing, that's fine.
>>
>> Bush's Favorite Democrat
>>[/color]
>
>
>Below is written by a demmie who wants to get his power back. More
>trash in the media. I like Joe. He sticks up for what is right, he has
>principles. He is up 17 pts in the latest poll.[/color]

Joe gave up some of his beliefs when he ran with Al Bore, but all in
all he is a pretty decent guy...


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Old 10-20-2006, 04:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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In article <vkgij21j42nmk723atpojhv23vonv7op8c@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:35:34 GMT, dbu <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >In article <HVa_g.3539$Ka1.2953@news01.roc.ny>,
> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> "Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
> >> news:90dij2todm05cgqdvr0dmvnlmrvdd89e3v@4ax.com...
> >> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:17:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> >> > <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
> >> >>news:howardyno-FFE1DD.14144320102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> >>> In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
> >> >>> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Lieberman by 17.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the
> >> >>> Senate?
> >> >>> --
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>Liberman is the lowest form of trash.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > I don't know about that. He seems to be the type who sticks to his
> >> > guns and votes as he feels is right.
> >> >
> >> > From what I've seen, he's done what he said he was going to do.
> >> >
> >>
> >> As long as he's doing the right thing, that's fine.
> >>
> >> Bush's Favorite Democrat
> >>[/color]
> >
> >
> >Below is written by a demmie who wants to get his power back. More
> >trash in the media. I like Joe. He sticks up for what is right, he has
> >principles. He is up 17 pts in the latest poll.[/color]
>
> Joe gave up some of his beliefs when he ran with Al Bore, but all in
> all he is a pretty decent guy...[/color]

not perfect, but none of us are. All in all I like him regardless if he
were a dimmie or independent. Of course, it would be real nice if he'd
switch to Republican.
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"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
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> In article <vkgij21j42nmk723atpojhv23vonv7op8c@4ax.com>,
> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:35:34 GMT, dbu <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >In article <HVa_g.3539$Ka1.2953@news01.roc.ny>,
>> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:90dij2todm05cgqdvr0dmvnlmrvdd89e3v@4ax.com...
>> >> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:17:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> >> > <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:howardyno-FFE1DD.14144320102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> >> >>> In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
>> >> >>> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Lieberman by 17.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the
>> >> >>> Senate?
>> >> >>> --
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Liberman is the lowest form of trash.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't know about that. He seems to be the type who sticks to his
>> >> > guns and votes as he feels is right.
>> >> >
>> >> > From what I've seen, he's done what he said he was going to do.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> As long as he's doing the right thing, that's fine.
>> >>
>> >> Bush's Favorite Democrat
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >Below is written by a demmie who wants to get his power back. More
>> >trash in the media. I like Joe. He sticks up for what is right, he has
>> >principles. He is up 17 pts in the latest poll.[/color]
>>
>> Joe gave up some of his beliefs when he ran with Al Bore, but all in
>> all he is a pretty decent guy...[/color]
>
> not perfect, but none of us are. All in all I like him regardless if he
> were a dimmie or independent. Of course, it would be real nice if he'd
> switch to Republican.[/color]

He already has.


 
Old 10-20-2006, 04:50 PM   #13 (permalink)
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In article <aqfij2lc7ilg4713iqc49hm8sl33gnihn7@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:15:28 GMT, dbu <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
> > Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?[/color]
> >
> >Lieberman by 17.
> >
> >[url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
> >
> >If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the Senate?[/color]
>
> It sure does....[/color]

Shall I start to polish my worlds tinyest violin and tune its strings or
should I wait a few days.
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In article <Pvb_g.3545$Ka1.1789@news01.roc.ny>,
"JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> "dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
> news:howardyno-BCF590.16482520102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=green]
> > In article <vkgij21j42nmk723atpojhv23vonv7op8c@4ax.com>,
> > Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:35:34 GMT, dbu <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <HVa_g.3539$Ka1.2953@news01.roc.ny>,
> >> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:90dij2todm05cgqdvr0dmvnlmrvdd89e3v@4ax.com...
> >> >> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:17:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
> >> >> > <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:howardyno-FFE1DD.14144320102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...
> >> >> >>> In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
> >> >> >>> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Lieberman by 17.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in the
> >> >> >>> Senate?
> >> >> >>> --
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Liberman is the lowest form of trash.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I don't know about that. He seems to be the type who sticks to his
> >> >> > guns and votes as he feels is right.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > From what I've seen, he's done what he said he was going to do.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> As long as he's doing the right thing, that's fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> Bush's Favorite Democrat
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Below is written by a demmie who wants to get his power back. More
> >> >trash in the media. I like Joe. He sticks up for what is right, he has
> >> >principles. He is up 17 pts in the latest poll.
> >>
> >> Joe gave up some of his beliefs when he ran with Al Bore, but all in
> >> all he is a pretty decent guy...[/color]
> >
> > not perfect, but none of us are. All in all I like him regardless if he
> > were a dimmie or independent. Of course, it would be real nice if he'd
> > switch to Republican.[/color]
>
> He already has.[/color]

No, he's running as an independent. He will be a great moderating force
in the Senate.
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"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
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> In article <Pvb_g.3545$Ka1.1789@news01.roc.ny>,
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> "dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
>> news:howardyno-BCF590.16482520102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=darkred]
>> > In article <vkgij21j42nmk723atpojhv23vonv7op8c@4ax.com>,
>> > Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:35:34 GMT, dbu <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >In article <HVa_g.3539$Ka1.2953@news01.roc.ny>,
>> >> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Stuart Krivis" <jd@mongo.krivis.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:90dij2todm05cgqdvr0dmvnlmrvdd89e3v@4ax.com...
>> >> >> > On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:17:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
>> >> >> > <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>"dbu" <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>news:howardyno-FFE1DD.14144320102006@news-rdr-01.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> >> >> >>> In article <gq3ij2hja49dbhrc3ea857v3sqtnmv8r6o@4ax.com>,
>> >> >> >>> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>> How is your anti war candidate doing in the Senate race?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Lieberman by 17.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> [url]http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=974[/url]
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> If Lieberman wins does this mean the dimmies loose a seat in
>> >> >> >>> the
>> >> >> >>> Senate?
>> >> >> >>> --
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Liberman is the lowest form of trash.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I don't know about that. He seems to be the type who sticks to
>> >> >> > his
>> >> >> > guns and votes as he feels is right.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > From what I've seen, he's done what he said he was going to do.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As long as he's doing the right thing, that's fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Bush's Favorite Democrat
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Below is written by a demmie who wants to get his power back. More
>> >> >trash in the media. I like Joe. He sticks up for what is right, he
>> >> >has
>> >> >principles. He is up 17 pts in the latest poll.
>> >>
>> >> Joe gave up some of his beliefs when he ran with Al Bore, but all in
>> >> all he is a pretty decent guy...
>> >
>> > not perfect, but none of us are. All in all I like him regardless if
>> > he
>> > were a dimmie or independent. Of course, it would be real nice if he'd
>> > switch to Republican.[/color]
>>
>> He already has.[/color]
>
> No, he's running as an independent. He will be a great moderating force
> in the Senate.
> --
>[/color]

No. He is a Republican. You know that.


 
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