Is Bush off the wagon?

Our forgetful chiefs of state....

"stay the course" has been a part of GWB as his ever-present smirk for three
years now. How could he forget his slogan?

----- Original Message -----
From: "DGH" <perinatl@eudoramail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 1:22 PM
Subject: Death of "Stay The Course"?

[color=blue]
> .
>
> The Big Muddy
>
> With just more than two weeks to go before a mid-term election that
> promises to be in large part a referendum on the war in Iraq, President
> Bush and his aides continue to muddy the debate by trying to redefine
> their terms on the fly.
>
> The most obvious example came on Sunday, when ABC News broadcast an
> interview in which Bush denied he had ever advocated staying the
> course.
>
> Here's the text of the interview, which was conducted on Wednesday.
>
> Anchor George Stephanopoulos was asking Bush about comments from James
> A. Baker III, who has said that the independent commission he co-chairs
> is pursuing alternatives to "cut and run" or "stay the course" in Iraq.
>
> Said Bush: "Well, listen, we've never been stay the course, George. We
> have been -- we will complete the mission, we will do our job and help
> achieve the goal, but we're constantly adjusting the tactics,
> constantly."
>
> White House counselor Dan Bartlett used almost the exact same words
> this morning on CBS News's " Early Show ": "It's never been a stay the
> course strategy."
>
> But as the liberal Think Progress blog so definitively pointed out
> yesterday, Bush repeatedly has described his strategy in precisely
> those terms.
>
> "We will stay the course." ( 8/30/06 )
>
> "We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq." ( 8/4/05 )
>
> "We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the
> temptation is to try to get the president or somebody to put a
> timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We're just going
> to stay the course." ( 12/15/03 )
>
> "And my message today to those in Iraq is: We'll stay the course." (
> 4/13/04 )
>
> And so on.
>
> ...
>
> Washington Post
>
> [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html[/url]
>[/color]

In article <12jqc677ul2dg51@corp.supernews.com>,
"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Our forgetful chiefs of state....
>
> "stay the course" has been a part of GWB as his ever-present smirk for three
> years now. How could he forget his slogan?[/color]

His "smirk"? Clinon had a "smirk" also. It was after that day in the
oval office, LOL.

Go baby!!

Cheers
--

Stay the course VS wishy washy dim

Which do you prefer?


"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:12jqc677ul2dg51@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue]
> Our forgetful chiefs of state....
>
> "stay the course" has been a part of GWB as his ever-present smirk for
> three years now. How could he forget his slogan?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DGH" <perinatl@eudoramail.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 1:22 PM
> Subject: Death of "Stay The Course"?
>
>[color=green]
>> .
>>
>> The Big Muddy
>>
>> With just more than two weeks to go before a mid-term election that
>> promises to be in large part a referendum on the war in Iraq, President
>> Bush and his aides continue to muddy the debate by trying to redefine
>> their terms on the fly.
>>
>> The most obvious example came on Sunday, when ABC News broadcast an
>> interview in which Bush denied he had ever advocated staying the
>> course.
>>
>> Here's the text of the interview, which was conducted on Wednesday.
>>
>> Anchor George Stephanopoulos was asking Bush about comments from James
>> A. Baker III, who has said that the independent commission he co-chairs
>> is pursuing alternatives to "cut and run" or "stay the course" in Iraq.
>>
>> Said Bush: "Well, listen, we've never been stay the course, George. We
>> have been -- we will complete the mission, we will do our job and help
>> achieve the goal, but we're constantly adjusting the tactics,
>> constantly."
>>
>> White House counselor Dan Bartlett used almost the exact same words
>> this morning on CBS News's " Early Show ": "It's never been a stay the
>> course strategy."
>>
>> But as the liberal Think Progress blog so definitively pointed out
>> yesterday, Bush repeatedly has described his strategy in precisely
>> those terms.
>>
>> "We will stay the course." ( 8/30/06 )
>>
>> "We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq." ( 8/4/05 )
>>
>> "We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the
>> temptation is to try to get the president or somebody to put a
>> timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We're just going
>> to stay the course." ( 12/15/03 )
>>
>> "And my message today to those in Iraq is: We'll stay the course." (
>> 4/13/04 )
>>
>> And so on.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Washington Post
>>
>> [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html[/url]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]

" dbu." <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
news:howardyno-03F2BE.16333123102006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=blue]
> In article <12jqc677ul2dg51@corp.supernews.com>,
> "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Our forgetful chiefs of state....
>>
>> "stay the course" has been a part of GWB as his ever-present smirk for
>> three
>> years now. How could he forget his slogan?[/color]
>
> His "smirk"? Clinon had a "smirk" also. It was after that day in the
> oval office, LOL.
>
> Go baby!!
>
> Cheers[/color]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You focus on the smirk
I focused on the lies, too many to count.[color=blue]
>[/color]

"Roadrunner Newsgroup" <RRNG@highlandcraft.com> wrote in message
news:FXb%g.26941$cc3.11934@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=blue]
> Stay the course VS wishy washy dim
>
> Which do you prefer?
>
>[/color]
Hey, don't say "stay the course" like that....after all, your dear leader
never said it, right?

Yes, and I do prefer what you chose to call 'wishy washy dim" so a guy in
the oval office who talks out of both sides of his lying mouth, and has been
the worst, most harmful chief executive the US has had in over a century.

In article <12jqjmlmke2c024@corp.supernews.com>,
"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> " dbu." <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
> news:howardyno-03F2BE.16333123102006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=green]
> > In article <12jqc677ul2dg51@corp.supernews.com>,
> > "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> >[color=darkred]
> >> Our forgetful chiefs of state....
> >>
> >> "stay the course" has been a part of GWB as his ever-present smirk for
> >> three
> >> years now. How could he forget his slogan?[/color]
> >
> > His "smirk"? Clinon had a "smirk" also. It was after that day in the
> > oval office, LOL.
> >
> > Go baby!!
> >
> > Cheers[/color]
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> You focus on the smirk
> I focused on the lies, too many to count.[color=green]
> >[/color][/color]

Lies for sure. clinton commited perjury. He is a luck guy. Most of us
mortals would have went to jail.
--

I think Warren Harding and Richard Nixon might have a slight edge on
him.


On Oct 23, 7:30 pm, "mack" <macke...@dslextreme.com> wrote:[color=blue]
> "Roadrunner Newsgroup" <R...@highlandcraft.com> wrote in messagenews:FXb%g.26941$cc3.11934@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...> Stay the course VS wishy washy dim
>[color=green]
> > Which do you prefer?Hey, don't say "stay the course" like that....after all, your dear leader[/color]
> never said it, right?
>
> Yes, and I do prefer what you chose to call 'wishy washy dim" so a guy in
> the oval office who talks out of both sides of his lying mouth, and has been
> the worst, most harmful chief executive the US has had in over a century.[/color]

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 14:14:43 -0700, "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>Our forgetful chiefs of state....
>
>"stay the course" has been a part of GWB as his ever-present smirk for three
>years now. How could he forget his slogan?[/color]

They're switching to a new one. Snow was talking about this yesterday
and trying to make it seem like Bush never said "stay the course."

The new slogan will be, "What, me worry?"
[url]http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushworry2.htm[/url]

[color=blue]
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DGH" <perinatl@eudoramail.com>
>Newsgroups: alt.obituaries
>Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 1:22 PM
>Subject: Death of "Stay The Course"?
>
>[color=green]
>> .
>>
>> The Big Muddy
>>
>> With just more than two weeks to go before a mid-term election that
>> promises to be in large part a referendum on the war in Iraq, President
>> Bush and his aides continue to muddy the debate by trying to redefine
>> their terms on the fly.
>>
>> The most obvious example came on Sunday, when ABC News broadcast an
>> interview in which Bush denied he had ever advocated staying the
>> course.
>>
>> Here's the text of the interview, which was conducted on Wednesday.
>>
>> Anchor George Stephanopoulos was asking Bush about comments from James
>> A. Baker III, who has said that the independent commission he co-chairs
>> is pursuing alternatives to "cut and run" or "stay the course" in Iraq.
>>
>> Said Bush: "Well, listen, we've never been stay the course, George. We
>> have been -- we will complete the mission, we will do our job and help
>> achieve the goal, but we're constantly adjusting the tactics,
>> constantly."
>>
>> White House counselor Dan Bartlett used almost the exact same words
>> this morning on CBS News's " Early Show ": "It's never been a stay the
>> course strategy."
>>
>> But as the liberal Think Progress blog so definitively pointed out
>> yesterday, Bush repeatedly has described his strategy in precisely
>> those terms.
>>
>> "We will stay the course." ( 8/30/06 )
>>
>> "We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq." ( 8/4/05 )
>>
>> "We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the
>> temptation is to try to get the president or somebody to put a
>> timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We're just going
>> to stay the course." ( 12/15/03 )
>>
>> "And my message today to those in Iraq is: We'll stay the course." (
>> 4/13/04 )
>>
>> And so on.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Washington Post
>>
>> [url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/linkset/2005/04/11/LI2005041100879.html[/url]
>>[/color]
>[/color]

President Bush is the only guy I know who will do on Wednesday what he
planned on Monday no matter what happens on Tuesday. (credit to Stephen
Colbert)


"mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote in message
news:12jqk4t55bh1qdc@corp.supernews.com...[color=blue]
>
> "Roadrunner Newsgroup" <RRNG@highlandcraft.com> wrote in message
> news:FXb%g.26941$cc3.11934@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=green]
>> Stay the course VS wishy washy dim
>>
>> Which do you prefer?
>>
>>[/color]
> Hey, don't say "stay the course" like that....after all, your dear leader
> never said it, right?
>
> Yes, and I do prefer what you chose to call 'wishy washy dim" so a guy in
> the oval office who talks out of both sides of his lying mouth, and has
> been the worst, most harmful chief executive the US has had in over a
> century.
>[/color]

Actually I think most would take Nixon right now.


"David Mc" <bosco4994@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1161688839.757736.53030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
>
> I think Warren Harding and Richard Nixon might have a slight edge on
> him.
>
>
> On Oct 23, 7:30 pm, "mack" <macke...@dslextreme.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> "Roadrunner Newsgroup" <R...@highlandcraft.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:FXb%g.26941$cc3.11934@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...> Stay the
>> course VS wishy washy dim
>>[color=darkred]
>> > Which do you prefer?Hey, don't say "stay the course" like that....after
>> > all, your dear leader[/color]
>> never said it, right?
>>
>> Yes, and I do prefer what you chose to call 'wishy washy dim" so a guy in
>> the oval office who talks out of both sides of his lying mouth, and has
>> been
>> the worst, most harmful chief executive the US has had in over a century.[/color]
>[/color]

" dbu." <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
news:howardyno-5A3CE9.18441223102006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=blue]
> In article <12jqjmlmke2c024@corp.supernews.com>,
> "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> " dbu." <howardyno@jackass.com> wrote in message
>> news:howardyno-03F2BE.16333123102006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...[color=darkred]
>> > In article <12jqc677ul2dg51@corp.supernews.com>,
>> > "mack" <mackerel@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Our forgetful chiefs of state....
>> >>
>> >> "stay the course" has been a part of GWB as his ever-present smirk for
>> >> three
>> >> years now. How could he forget his slogan?
>> >
>> > His "smirk"? Clinon had a "smirk" also. It was after that day in the
>> > oval office, LOL.
>> >
>> > Go baby!!
>> >
>> > Cheers[/color]
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> You focus on the smirk
>> I focused on the lies, too many to count.[color=darkred]
>> >[/color][/color]
>
> Lies for sure. clinton commited perjury. He is a luck guy. Most of us
> mortals would have went to jail.
> --
>[/color]

Like we'd have enough room in our prisons for every husband who lied about
extra-marital sex.



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"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:r0s%g.12312$Lv3.2257@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...[color=blue]
> Actually I think most would take Nixon right now.
>[/color]

Nixon was smart and a deep thinker and Nixon was willing to fight Congress
to get what he wanted. Nixon was willing to veto legislation, he was bold
in some foreign policy matters (as, for example, in going to China) that
turned out pretty well, he "sequestered" funds as a creative way of working
a budget fight with Congress. There were more than a few things to admire.

His downfall was fundamentally his own fault but if he'd had some close
advisers willing to stand up for what's right, his Presidency might have had
a happier ending.

Some contrasts with Bush couldn't be more stark. Bush may be smart but he's
willfully ignorant so we cruise into Iraq without an exit strategy, he's
unwilling to confront Congress on anything so the deficit balloons.

On the other hand, there are similarities: crappy advisers unwilling to
stand up for what's right and therefore let the train wreck happen? Bush
has those, too.

Bush had a better Secretary of State (Kissinger was smart, true, but myopic
and fundamentally lacked confidence in America and, so, saw everything in
terms of military power) but he pissed him (Powell, the better Secretary)
away. Who's advising the Bush administration? Well, as it turns out,
Kissinger is advising the Bush administration. I can't believe they'd let
Kissinger near the White House after 1975 but they do. That's got to be
prime stupidity.

I think Nixon actually felt remorse about the people who died on his watch.
I think Bush sees it as just the cost of doing business. It's his miliarty,
they're there to serve his needs, so he sends them to die. And he'll never
let his conscience be bothered by however many thousands of Iraqis died,
they're completely inconsequential.
[color=blue]
> "David Mc" <bosco4994@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1161688839.757736.53030@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
>>
>> I think Warren Harding and Richard Nixon might have a slight edge on
>> him.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 23, 7:30 pm, "mack" <macke...@dslextreme.com> wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> "Roadrunner Newsgroup" <R...@highlandcraft.com> wrote in
>>> messagenews:FXb%g.26941$cc3.11934@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com...> Stay the
>>> course VS wishy washy dim
>>>
>>> > Which do you prefer?Hey, don't say "stay the course" like
>>> > that....after all, your dear leader
>>> never said it, right?
>>>
>>> Yes, and I do prefer what you chose to call 'wishy washy dim" so a guy
>>> in
>>> the oval office who talks out of both sides of his lying mouth, and has
>>> been
>>> the worst, most harmful chief executive the US has had in over a
>>> century.[/color]
>>[/color]
>
>[/color]



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DH, 10/24/2006,5:12:38 PM, wrote:
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Lies for sure. clinton commited perjury. He is a luck guy. Most
> > of us mortals would have went to jail.[/color]
>
> Like we'd have enough room in our prisons for every husband who lied
> about extra-marital sex.[/color]

I don't know too many husbands who have done that. Hopefully you are
not speaking from experience.

--
"Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." ~
Flannery O'Connor

In article <xn0esuvf42tiecb001@news.readfreenews.net>,
"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> DH, 10/24/2006,5:12:38 PM, wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
> > > Lies for sure. clinton commited perjury. He is a luck guy. Most
> > > of us mortals would have went to jail.[/color]
> >
> > Like we'd have enough room in our prisons for every husband who lied
> > about extra-marital sex.[/color]
>
> I don't know too many husbands who have done that. Hopefully you are
> not speaking from experience.[/color]

They seem to forget, perhaps intentionally, this was about a boss and a
subordinate while on duty in the workplace. Had clinton got hisself a
motel room and performed off duty then I would care less. Instead he
chose to try and cover up the lusty affair. Go baby!

Cheers
--

"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0esuvf42tiecb001@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> DH, 10/24/2006,5:12:38 PM, wrote:
>[color=green][color=darkred]
>> > Lies for sure. clinton commited perjury. He is a luck guy. Most
>> > of us mortals would have went to jail.[/color]
>>
>> Like we'd have enough room in our prisons for every husband who lied
>> about extra-marital sex.[/color]
>
> I don't know too many husbands who have done that. Hopefully you are
> not speaking from experience.
>[/color]

Yes, you do know husbands who have done that, they just haven't told you
about it. Approximately 22% of husbands are unfaithful. 70% of their
spouses don't find out. We'd need about 20million more prison cells.

Then there's the ones who lie on their 1040s...
[color=blue]
> "Truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." ~
> Flannery O'Connor[/color]



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