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ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS
Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET

Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that
exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage
sex scenes.



The press release, as provided by the Allen Campaign:

WEBB’S WEIRD WORLD

The Author’s Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning
Women

· Some of Webb’s writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to
represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate.

· Many excellent books about the United States military and wartime
service accomplish their purposes, and even win awards, without
systematically demeaning women, and without dehumanizing women, men and
even children.

· Webb’s novels disturbingly and consistently – indeed, almost
uniformly – portray women as servile, subordinate, inept, incompetent,
promiscuous, perverted, or some combination of these. In novel after
novel, Webb assigns his female characters base, negative
characteristics. In thousands of pages of fiction penned by Webb, there
are few if any strong, admirable women or positive female role models.

Why does Jim Webb refuse to portray women in a respectful, positive
light, whether in his non-fiction concerning their role in the
military, or in his provocative novels? How can women trust him to
represent their views in the Senate when chauvinistic attitudes and
sexually exploitive references run throughout his fiction and
non-fiction writings?

· Most Virginians and Americans would find passages such as those below
shocking, especially coming from the pen of someone who seeks the
privilege of serving in the United States Senate, one of the highest
offices in the land:



– Lost Soldiers: “A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud
pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated
with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by
fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt.
The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and
put the boy’s penis in his mouth.”

Bantam Books, NY, 1st Edition, 2001, (hard cover), page 333.
Quote is from para. 10,.Chap. 34.

– Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper
do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling
proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim
bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the
muscles of her vagina."

William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 36.
Avon Books, New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 35
Quote is from para. 29, Chap. 2 “The South China Sea,”, Section 2

– A Country Such as This: "[He] could see Jawbone and Ashley Asthmatic
[two guards at a Vietnamese prison camp] napping together in the grass.
They faced inward, their arms entwined. It looked like they were
masturbating each other. It didn't surprise him. … It was common to see
men holding hands, embracing, playing with each other. Some of them
[the guards] had wanted him. He could tell in those evanescent moments
between his bao cao bow, the obligatory deference when a guard entered
his cell, and the first word or blow that followed it… Quick, grinding
voices, turgid with repressed passion. An exploratory reaching of the
hand near his groin…”

Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1983 (hardcover); page 396.
Bluejacket Books, 2001 (Trade paperback edition), page 396
Page numbers are the same in the Naval Institute Press (paperback)
edition, 1983.
Quote is from fifth para, Part 5 “A Country Such As This,” Chap. 24,
Section 1

– A Sense of Honor: “Nurse Goodbody, dark and voluptuous (Lenahan had
forgotten her actual name, it was something long and Italian), was a
bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda. She had hinted to
Lenahan that she simply could not contain herself. Doctors tending to
patients, she explained, aroused her. Morphine Mary (again Lenahan
could not remember her exact name) was a thin, nervous drill sergeant
type, a disciplinarian who did not allow her patients even to complain.
Lenahan was convinced that Morphine Mary did not even sleep with her
husband. She wasn’t bad looking, he mused again, staring at her thin
frame. If she’d just get laid every now and then she’d mellow out and
stop being such a damn witch.” (p. 164) (Lenahan brings Goodbody home
with him and has sex, pp. 188-190)

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 164
Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 164
Quote is from fourth para in Part 3, “Chapter 4:1600”

– Something to Die For: "[Fogarty] has been thinking of the firm,
springy skin and the sweet smells of a young Filipina woman named Maria
in whose bed he had spent three nights almost twenty years ago. . . .
She was a deliciously bad young woman. . . . On the second night, he
had brought her a box of Godiva chocolates . . . . he had awakened to
find her in the bathroom, sitting on the toilet with her knees
underneath her chin, eating chocolates and counting her rosary beads as
she prayed."

William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 32.
Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 30
Quote is from third para in Chapter 2 “South China Sea,”, Part 2

– Something to Die For: "We're on our way to becoming the world's
recreational center, a nation [USA] not to be taken seriously. Where
are we still the undisputed leader? Music. Movies. Fast food. Drugs. .
.. . the billboards fifty years from now as you come over the bridge and
stop at the tollbooths outside Manhattan: A smiling beautiful naked
woman, and the sign saying AMERICAN ASS IS OUR MOST IMPORTANT PRODUCT."

William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 199.
Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 237
Quote is from para. 38, Chap. 13, Part 1, (five paras before Part 2).

– Fields of Fire: Snake (the protagonist) sees his mother on the bed:
"She looked as if she were carefully attempting to re-create a picture
from some long-forgotten men's magazine . . . . She was naked
underneath the robe . . . . and the robe fell loosely away, revealing
her. Snake shrugged resignedly."

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), p. 8
Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] edition" published in Sept. 2001.
p. 9.
Quote is from paragraphs 18-23, Part 1 “The Best We Have”, Section 1
(NOTE: Part 1 is after the Prologue)

– Fields of Fire: "He saw the invitation with every bouncing breast and
curved hip. . . . He was thirteen. . . . She was fifteen . . . . In a
few moments she drew him to her and he murmured in his quiet voice, 'I
am still small.' 'You are large enough,' she answered. And he found he
was."

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), pp. 211-212
Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] ed." published in Sept. 2001, pp.
280-81.
Quote is from paragraphs 8-20, Part 2 “The End of the Pipeline,”
Chapter 24

– A Sense of Honor: “… that is, if you knew who your sister was,
Brustein, and if she’d been born with anything between her legs except
an asshole, I’d be happy to bring some class to your low-rent name by
knocking the bitch up.” (p. 223)

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 223
Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 223
Quote is from 17th para in Part 4, “Chapter 7:1930”

– A Sense of Honor: “You wouldn’t have believed it, Swede. She just
dropped her britches and lifted up her skirt and pissed like a man.
Didn’t lose a drop, either. Not a drop.” (p. 183)

Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 183
Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 183
Quote is from 23rd para in Part 3, “Chapter 8: 2300”

END
 
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Old 10-27-2006, 06:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A bit from CNN:

"Lynne Cheney, wife of Vice President Dick Cheney, wrote the novel
"Sisters," published in 1981, which included lesbian love scenes.

The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee sent out a news release Friday
pointing to sexual passages in books by other GOP conservatives, including
Dick Cheney's former chief of staff I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby and former
House Speaker Newt Gingrich."






"badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:xn0esyp9e5sjq38005@news.readfreenews.net...[color=blue]
> ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS
> Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET
>
> Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that
> exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage
> sex scenes.
>
>
>
> The press release, as provided by the Allen Campaign:
>
> WEBB'S WEIRD WORLD
>
> The Author's Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning
> Women
>
> · Some of Webb's writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to
> represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate.
>
> · Many excellent books about the United States military and wartime
> service accomplish their purposes, and even win awards, without
> systematically demeaning women, and without dehumanizing women, men and
> even children.
>
> · Webb's novels disturbingly and consistently - indeed, almost
> uniformly - portray women as servile, subordinate, inept, incompetent,
> promiscuous, perverted, or some combination of these. In novel after
> novel, Webb assigns his female characters base, negative
> characteristics. In thousands of pages of fiction penned by Webb, there
> are few if any strong, admirable women or positive female role models.
>
> Why does Jim Webb refuse to portray women in a respectful, positive
> light, whether in his non-fiction concerning their role in the
> military, or in his provocative novels? How can women trust him to
> represent their views in the Senate when chauvinistic attitudes and
> sexually exploitive references run throughout his fiction and
> non-fiction writings?
>
> · Most Virginians and Americans would find passages such as those below
> shocking, especially coming from the pen of someone who seeks the
> privilege of serving in the United States Senate, one of the highest
> offices in the land:
>
>
>
> - Lost Soldiers: "A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud
> pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated
> with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by
> fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt.
> The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and
> put the boy's penis in his mouth."
>
> Bantam Books, NY, 1st Edition, 2001, (hard cover), page 333.
> Quote is from para. 10,.Chap. 34.
>
> - Something to Die For: "Fogarty . . . watch[ed] a naked young stripper
> do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling
> proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim
> bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the
> muscles of her vagina."
>
> William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 36.
> Avon Books, New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 35
> Quote is from para. 29, Chap. 2 "The South China Sea,", Section 2
>
> - A Country Such as This: "[He] could see Jawbone and Ashley Asthmatic
> [two guards at a Vietnamese prison camp] napping together in the grass.
> They faced inward, their arms entwined. It looked like they were
> masturbating each other. It didn't surprise him. . It was common to see
> men holding hands, embracing, playing with each other. Some of them
> [the guards] had wanted him. He could tell in those evanescent moments
> between his bao cao bow, the obligatory deference when a guard entered
> his cell, and the first word or blow that followed it. Quick, grinding
> voices, turgid with repressed passion. An exploratory reaching of the
> hand near his groin."
>
> Doubleday & Co., Garden City, NY, 1983 (hardcover); page 396.
> Bluejacket Books, 2001 (Trade paperback edition), page 396
> Page numbers are the same in the Naval Institute Press (paperback)
> edition, 1983.
> Quote is from fifth para, Part 5 "A Country Such As This," Chap. 24,
> Section 1
>
> - A Sense of Honor: "Nurse Goodbody, dark and voluptuous (Lenahan had
> forgotten her actual name, it was something long and Italian), was a
> bedtime friend to many of the doctors in Bethesda. She had hinted to
> Lenahan that she simply could not contain herself. Doctors tending to
> patients, she explained, aroused her. Morphine Mary (again Lenahan
> could not remember her exact name) was a thin, nervous drill sergeant
> type, a disciplinarian who did not allow her patients even to complain.
> Lenahan was convinced that Morphine Mary did not even sleep with her
> husband. She wasn't bad looking, he mused again, staring at her thin
> frame. If she'd just get laid every now and then she'd mellow out and
> stop being such a damn witch." (p. 164) (Lenahan brings Goodbody home
> with him and has sex, pp. 188-190)
>
> Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
> Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 164
> Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 164
> Quote is from fourth para in Part 3, "Chapter 4:1600"
>
> - Something to Die For: "[Fogarty] has been thinking of the firm,
> springy skin and the sweet smells of a young Filipina woman named Maria
> in whose bed he had spent three nights almost twenty years ago. . . .
> She was a deliciously bad young woman. . . . On the second night, he
> had brought her a box of Godiva chocolates . . . . he had awakened to
> find her in the bathroom, sitting on the toilet with her knees
> underneath her chin, eating chocolates and counting her rosary beads as
> she prayed."
>
> William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 32.
> Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 30
> Quote is from third para in Chapter 2 "South China Sea,", Part 2
>
> - Something to Die For: "We're on our way to becoming the world's
> recreational center, a nation [USA] not to be taken seriously. Where
> are we still the undisputed leader? Music. Movies. Fast food. Drugs. .
> . . the billboards fifty years from now as you come over the bridge and
> stop at the tollbooths outside Manhattan: A smiling beautiful naked
> woman, and the sign saying AMERICAN ASS IS OUR MOST IMPORTANT PRODUCT."
>
> William Morrow and Company, Inc., NY 1991, 1st Ed. (hardcover), p. 199.
> Avon Books New York, 1992 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 237
> Quote is from para. 38, Chap. 13, Part 1, (five paras before Part 2).
>
> - Fields of Fire: Snake (the protagonist) sees his mother on the bed:
> "She looked as if she were carefully attempting to re-create a picture
> from some long-forgotten men's magazine . . . . She was naked
> underneath the robe . . . . and the robe fell loosely away, revealing
> her. Snake shrugged resignedly."
>
> Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), p. 8
> Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] edition" published in Sept. 2001.
> p. 9.
> Quote is from paragraphs 18-23, Part 1 "The Best We Have", Section 1
> (NOTE: Part 1 is after the Prologue)
>
> - Fields of Fire: "He saw the invitation with every bouncing breast and
> curved hip. . . . He was thirteen. . . . She was fifteen . . . . In a
> few moments she drew him to her and he murmured in his quiet voice, 'I
> am still small.' 'You are large enough,' she answered. And he found he
> was."
>
> Prentice-Hall, New York, 1978 (Hardcover, 1st edition), pp. 211-212
> Bantam Books "mass market [paperback] ed." published in Sept. 2001, pp.
> 280-81.
> Quote is from paragraphs 8-20, Part 2 "The End of the Pipeline,"
> Chapter 24
>
> - A Sense of Honor: ". that is, if you knew who your sister was,
> Brustein, and if she'd been born with anything between her legs except
> an asshole, I'd be happy to bring some class to your low-rent name by
> knocking the bitch up." (p. 223)
>
> Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
> Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 223
> Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 223
> Quote is from 17th para in Part 4, "Chapter 7:1930"
>
> - A Sense of Honor: "You wouldn't have believed it, Swede. She just
> dropped her britches and lifted up her skirt and pissed like a man.
> Didn't lose a drop, either. Not a drop." (p. 183)
>
> Prentice-Hall, New York, 1981 (hardcover)
> Bantam, New York, 1982 (Mass-Market paperback edition), p. 183
> Trade paperback edition, Bluejacket Books, 1995, p. 183
> Quote is from 23rd para in Part 3, "Chapter 8: 2300"
>
> END[/color]


 
Old 10-27-2006, 07:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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On 27 Oct 2006 13:03:06 GMT, "badgolferman"
<REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS
>Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET
>
>Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that
>exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage
>sex scenes.
>
>
>
>The press release, as provided by the Allen Campaign:
>
>WEBB’S WEIRD WORLD
>
>The Author’s Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning
>Women
>
>· Some of Webb’s writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to
>represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate.
>[/color]


Don't you just love people like that?

Seems October surprises can hurt Dim's too.....


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Old 10-28-2006, 05:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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In article <56a5k2tjvbfj6mb5emn4rigts3ne210lac@4ax.com>,
Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
[color=blue]
> On 27 Oct 2006 13:03:06 GMT, "badgolferman"
> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>[color=green]
> >ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS
> >Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET
> >
> >Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that
> >exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage
> >sex scenes.
> >
> >
> >
> >The press release, as provided by the Allen Campaign:
> >
> >WEBB’S WEIRD WORLD
> >
> >The Author’s Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning
> >Women
> >
> >· Some of Webb’s writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to
> >represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate.
> >[/color]
>
>
> Don't you just love people like that?
>
> Seems October surprises can hurt Dim's too.....[/color]

and we got ten more days to go. What other Oct surprise is lurking in
the shadows. I think the dimmies have already used up theirs.
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Old 10-28-2006, 04:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:31:19 GMT, " dbu." <howardyno@jackass.com>
wrote:
[color=blue]
>In article <56a5k2tjvbfj6mb5emn4rigts3ne210lac@4ax.com>,
> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>[color=green]
>> On 27 Oct 2006 13:03:06 GMT, "badgolferman"
>> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>> >ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS
>> >Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET
>> >
>> >Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that
>> >exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage
>> >sex scenes.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >The press release, as provided by the Allen Campaign:
>> >
>> >WEBB’S WEIRD WORLD
>> >
>> >The Author’s Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning
>> >Women
>> >
>> >· Some of Webb’s writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to
>> >represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate.
>> >[/color]
>>
>>
>> Don't you just love people like that?
>>
>> Seems October surprises can hurt Dim's too.....[/color]
>
>and we got ten more days to go. What other Oct surprise is lurking in
>the shadows. I think the dimmies have already used up theirs.[/color]

It is sorta like the guy who spikes the football at the ten yard
line....


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Old 10-28-2006, 04:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Maybe the Democrats will mention the deficit. There is so much bad news out
there it is hard to remember to mention all the screw ups Republicans are
responsible for.

Apparently lots of people are still pissed over Katrina though the Dems
haven't remembered to mention that either.


"Scott in Florida" <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote in message
news:a5j7k2llp9h3mvcg943r4s05rfdqqk7pls@4ax.com...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 10:31:19 GMT, " dbu." <howardyno@jackass.com>
> wrote:
>[color=green]
>>In article <56a5k2tjvbfj6mb5emn4rigts3ne210lac@4ax.com>,
>> Scott in Florida <askifyouwant@mindspring.net> wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> On 27 Oct 2006 13:03:06 GMT, "badgolferman"
>>> <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >ALLEN'S REVENGE: EXPOSES UNDERAGE SEX SCENES IN OPPONENT'S NOVELS
>>> >Thu Oct 26 2006 20:05:37 ET
>>> >
>>> >Sen. George Allen, R-VA, unleashed a press release late Thursday that
>>> >exposed his rival's fiction writing, which includes graphic underage
>>> >sex scenes.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >The press release, as provided by the Allen Campaign:
>>> >
>>> >WEBB'S WEIRD WORLD
>>> >
>>> >The Author's Disturbing Writings Show a Continued Pattern of Demeaning
>>> >Women
>>> >
>>> >· Some of Webb's writings are very disturbing for a candidate hoping to
>>> >represent the families of Virginians in the U.S. Senate.
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't you just love people like that?
>>>
>>> Seems October surprises can hurt Dim's too.....[/color]
>>
>>and we got ten more days to go. What other Oct surprise is lurking in
>>the shadows. I think the dimmies have already used up theirs.[/color]
>
> It is sorta like the guy who spikes the football at the ten yard
> line....
>
>
> --
>
> Scott in Florida
>[/color]


 
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In article <E8Q0h.1107$zf.509@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
"Art" <begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:

I forgot you are a top poster, per diz, LOL.

The deficit is not a problem to the average voter. It's the 401K that
makes the headlines for that average Joe and Jane out there.

401Ks are doing good now-a-days.
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On Sat, 28 Oct 2006 21:41:56 GMT, "Art"
<begunaNOSPAMPLEASE@mindspring.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Maybe the Democrats will mention the deficit. There is so much bad news out
>there it is hard to remember to mention all the screw ups Republicans are
>responsible for.[/color]

Yes the Dims should mention the deficit so we can shove it up your
arses....

btw the deficit is HALF what it was projected to be...

PLEASE USE IT...
[color=blue]
>
>Apparently lots of people are still pissed over Katrina though the Dems
>haven't remembered to mention that either.[/color]

ROFLMAO

In Dim country....but in Republican country they are hard at
rebuilding.

You welfare dims are all out to lunch.....



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