2002 Sequoia non JBL Stereo replacment?

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.11.04.16.49.51.230860@AE86.gts...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 19:05:14 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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>> "Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1162665532snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk...[color=darkred]
>>> In article <lY43h.4820$ya1.2743@news02.roc.ny>
>>> [email]dishborealis@yahoo.com[/email] "JoeSpareBedroom" writes:
>>>
>>>> Baltic birch ply isn't sawdust and glue. You're thinking of
>>>> particle board.
>>>
>>> When a USian speaks of "particle board", is that the same as what
>>> we in the UK would call "chip board" (coarse stuff, commonly used
>>> for flooring) or "fibre board" (furniture, shelving and similar)?
>>>
>>> Fibre board comes in light, medium and high density: LDF, MDF and
>>> HDF, though you seem to have search for LDF/HDF. HDF sounds like
>>> (er, pun not intended) the really dense stuff being advocated, as
>>> MDF is pretty solid even unvarnished.
>>> --
>>> Andrew Stephenson
>>>[/color]
>>
>> We've got those, too. Some home speaker manufacturers use the better
>> version, and apply veneer. I'm not sure why we chose plywood. Probably
>> because it just looked nicer, in case a customer decided to lay in the
>> trunk
>> and look up at the brackets we made. You know...customers do that all the
>> time, don't they?[/color]
>
>
> LOL! No, I was thinking MDF. It's pretty dense stuff, almost like a
> plastic. I was going to make my mounts with MDF but it was too expensive
> to buy a whole sheet for 4 pieces, and they didn't have any cut-down...[/color]

That's why fancy 1/2" or 3/4" ply is good. You *can* get smaller pieces.

"Hachiroku" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:pan.2006.11.04.16.47.54.658052@AE86.gts...[color=blue]
> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 18:27:29 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
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>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2006.11.04.11.50.53.609138@AE86.gts...[color=darkred]
>>> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:44:42 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2006.11.03.18.43.31.908779@AE86.gts...
>>>>> On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 18:40:20 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6x9s are a joke. In the home, where have you ever seen an oval
>>>>>> speaker?
>>>>>> In a
>>>>>> clock radio? :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where I worked, we got so disgusted with them that we began making
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> own
>>>>>> adaptors for installing 6" rounds in 6x9 cutouts. We used nice baltic
>>>>>> birch
>>>>>> ply. In the beginning, we were making them one at a time for each
>>>>>> installation. After a few months, we narrowed the variety down to 3
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> 4
>>>>>> that worked in any car. We didn't charge for them in the beginning,
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> we told customers that the experiment was our idea, not theirs. We
>>>>>> eventually sold them for just the cost of the wood because we were
>>>>>> able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make them so quickly. $7 or $8 bucks a pair.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's a decent price, when you're paying $7.99 or more for Plastic!
>>>>>
>>>>> Damn! I had to make some cutouts for my tC, and all I had was some
>>>>> nice,
>>>>> dense Melamine shelving. Worked pretty well!
>>>>
>>>> We were doing this around 1980. IIRC, a 4x8 sheet of Baltic birch ply
>>>> was
>>>> mayb $50, and we'd get like 843 adapters out of that sheet. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> wow. Now the 'material' is...um...I can't remember, but it's basically
>>> fine, fine sawdust and glue. Very, very dense! Good for speakers.[/color]
>>
>> Baltic birch ply isn't sawdust and glue. You're thinking of particle
>> board.[/color]
>
>
> No, Andrew hit it: MDF.[/color]

I use the terms interchangeably, even though I know it's wrong. :-)

In article <Kv53h.4709$Ka1.1335@news01.roc.ny>
[email]dishborealis@yahoo.com[/email] "JoeSpareBedroom" writes:
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> "Andrew Stephenson" <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1162665532snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk...[color=green]
> >
> > When a USian speaks of "particle board", [...][/color]
>
> [...] in case a customer decided to lay in the trunk and look
> up at the brackets we made. You know...customers do that all
> the time, don't they?[/color]

:-) Considering how often some manage to stand on their heads in
discussions here, most likely.
--
Andrew Stephenson

> I used to love Alpine stuff, but the last two Alpine units I had weren't[color=blue]
> anywhere near as good as my Alpine cassette decks![/color]

I agree. Alpine was a great brand at one time. Didn't they get
purchased by RoadMaster or someone like them?

On Mon, 06 Nov 2006 08:21:42 -0800, edavid3001 wrote:
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>> I used to love Alpine stuff, but the last two Alpine units I had weren't
>> anywhere near as good as my Alpine cassette decks![/color]
>
> I agree. Alpine was a great brand at one time. Didn't they get
> purchased by RoadMaster or someone like them?[/color]

That rings a bell, but I think you're thinking Blaupunkt. I remember BP
got bought by someone and their stuff was being made overseas (er, Asia,
that is!) for a while. The engineering was still German but the
manufacture was Korean or something.

Shoot, they're ALL made in China now! The 'better' stuff is made
in...Malaysia! And Made In Japan? Golden! Only the high-end stuff!

On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:55:40 +0000, Bonehenge wrote:
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> On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:49:52 GMT, Hachiroku <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote:
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>>
>>LOL! No, I was thinking MDF. It's pretty dense stuff, almost like a
>>plastic. I was going to make my mounts with MDF but it was too expensive
>>to buy a whole sheet for 4 pieces, and they didn't have any cut-down...[/color]
>
> I'll GIVE you some scraps if you still need them.
>
> I go through mountains of the stuff as a veneer base and for jigs.[/color]

I don't know if I want to go through THAT again! ;)

All I have is a cheap jigsaw. Could be cool in the spring.

Hachiroku wrote:[color=blue]
>
> All I have is a cheap jigsaw. Could be cool in the spring.[/color]

Send me a cardboard pattern, and I'll whip them out for you.

On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 12:44:11 +0000, B A R R Y wrote:
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> Hachiroku wrote:[color=green]
>>
>> All I have is a cheap jigsaw. Could be cool in the spring.[/color]
>
> Send me a cardboard pattern, and I'll whip them out for you.[/color]


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