Re: Toyota - no start -turns over - got gas- got power

"carcrazy42" <herecomesthesun64@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The car stopped running last night. I just slowly stopped while I was
> driving. So when I turn the ignition it will turn over but not start.
> Any ideas?
>[/color]

An engine needs air and fuel in proper proportions and a means of igniting
the air-fuel mixture at the appropriate time to run. Your Toyota has a
problem with either the air, fuel, ignition, ignition timing, or valve
timing.

If you would like to narrow down the possibilities, it would be helpful if
you provided more information, like:

1) model year
2) model
3) engine
4) current odometer reading
5) maintenance history including what was done and where
6) how long the engine was running when it stopped;
7) whether the engine has been making any unusual noises lately
8) when you crank the engine, does it turn over faster than normal?
--

Ray O
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1) model year 1987
2) model Toyota
3) engine 4 cyl manual transmission
4) current odometer reading 165000
5) maintenance history including what was done and where regualr oil
changes, but nothing has been done recently
6) how long the engine was running when it stopped; 5 minutes
7) whether the engine has been making any unusual noises lately No
unusual noises
8) when you crank the engine, does it turn over faster than normal? It
cranks at a normal speed.
Thx for your help.

"carcrazy42" <herecomesthesun64@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> 1) model year 1987
> 2) model Toyota
> 3) engine 4 cyl manual transmission
> 4) current odometer reading 165000
> 5) maintenance history including what was done and where regualr oil
> changes, but nothing has been done recently
> 6) how long the engine was running when it stopped; 5 minutes
> 7) whether the engine has been making any unusual noises lately No
> unusual noises
> 8) when you crank the engine, does it turn over faster than normal? It
> cranks at a normal speed.
> Thx for your help.
>[/color]

OK, we're getting a little closer, although you did not answer some of the
questions.

Your answer to 2) model is Toyota. Toyota is the automaker, not the model.
What kind of Toyota is it? For example, is it a Tercel, Corolla, Camry,
etc.

Your answer to 3) engine - 4 cylinder - is that a gasoline or a diesel
engine? It the engine carbureted or fuel injected?

Your answer to 4) current odometer reading is 165,000 - is that miles or
kilometers?

Your answer to 5) maintenance history including what was done and where - I
was asking about the complete maintenance history and where it was
performed.

I have a few more questions

If the engine has a timing belt, when was the last time it was replaced?

Assuming it is a gasoline engine, are you getting spark?
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

> 1) model year 1987[color=blue]
> 2) model Toyota Corolla
> 3) engine 4 cyl manual transmission
> 4) current odometer reading 165000 miles
> 5) maintenance history including what was done and where regualr oil
> changes, but nothing has been done recently
> 6) how long the engine was running when it stopped; 5 minutes
> 7) whether the engine has been making any unusual noises lately No
> unusual noises
> 8) when you crank the engine, does it turn over faster than normal? It
> cranks at a normal speed.
> Thx for your help.
>[/color]

OK, we're getting a little closer, although you did not answer some of
the

questions.

Your answer to 2) model is Toyota. Toyota is the automaker, not the
model.
What kind of Toyota is it? For example, is it a Tercel, Corolla, Camry,
etc.

Your answer to 3) engine - 4 cylinder - is that a gasoline or a diesel
engine? It the engine carbureted or fuel injected? gas, carbureted

Your answer to 4) current odometer reading is 165,000 - is that miles or
kilometers? 165000 miles

Your answer to 5) maintenance history including what was done and where -
I
was asking about the complete maintenance history and where it was
performed. I don't have any maintenance history.

I have a few more questions

If the engine has a timing belt, when was the last time it was replaced?
The timing belt has not been replaced.

Assuming it is a gasoline engine, are you getting spark? -- Getting a
spark?
Additional info: I took the distributor cap off and tried to start the
car. The mechanism in the distributor cap did not move while the car was
being started.

"carcrazy42" <herecomesthesun64@nospamyahoo.com> wrote in message
news:d6f349859bdf04400b621e09a9087819@localhost.talkaboutautos.com...[color=blue][color=green]
>> 1) model year 1987
>> 2) model Toyota Corolla
>> 3) engine 4 cyl manual transmission
>> 4) current odometer reading 165000 miles
>> 5) maintenance history including what was done and where regualr oil
>> changes, but nothing has been done recently
>> 6) how long the engine was running when it stopped; 5 minutes
>> 7) whether the engine has been making any unusual noises lately No
>> unusual noises
>> 8) when you crank the engine, does it turn over faster than normal? It
>> cranks at a normal speed.
>> Thx for your help.
>>[/color]
>
> OK, we're getting a little closer, although you did not answer some of
> the
>
> questions.
>
> Your answer to 2) model is Toyota. Toyota is the automaker, not the
> model.
> What kind of Toyota is it? For example, is it a Tercel, Corolla, Camry,
> etc.
>
> Your answer to 3) engine - 4 cylinder - is that a gasoline or a diesel
> engine? It the engine carbureted or fuel injected? gas, carbureted
>
> Your answer to 4) current odometer reading is 165,000 - is that miles or
> kilometers? 165000 miles
>
> Your answer to 5) maintenance history including what was done and where -
> I
> was asking about the complete maintenance history and where it was
> performed. I don't have any maintenance history.
>
> I have a few more questions
>
> If the engine has a timing belt, when was the last time it was replaced?
> The timing belt has not been replaced.
>
> Assuming it is a gasoline engine, are you getting spark? -- Getting a
> spark?
> Additional info: I took the distributor cap off and tried to start the
> car. The mechanism in the distributor cap did not move while the car was
> being started.
>[/color]

If the distributor shaft is not turning, then the most likely reason is that
the timing belt is broken. The engine will not run with a broken timing
belt. Since the timing belt has not been replaced, then a broken timing
belt is the most likely reason that the engine will not run. Timing belts
should be changed every 60,000 to 90,000 miles.

If you are going to have the timing belt replaced, you may also wish to have
the idler pulley, water pump, and accessory drive belts replaced as a
preventative measure.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

carcrazy42 wrote:
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> gas, carbureted[/color]

Can you remove a spark plug and see if it sparks when you hold its body
against bare metal on the engine or frame and crank the engine? If
not, try spraying something flammable, like choke cleaner, into the air
intake while cranking the engine (leave the air filter and cover in
place, in case the engine spits). If the engine cranks exactly as
before, there's probably no spark. But if it starts or speeds up even
briefly, then you likely have no fuel getting into the engine because
of a bad fuel pump (strong gasoline smell) or fuel cut solenoid. That
solenoid (there may be two, one for each carb barrel) should click if
you disconnect its cable and apply 12V to its leads (there may be only
one lead, for 12V).

My Corolla quit running because the rubber o-ring for one of the fuel
cut solenoids disintegrated and somehow got lodged in the float valve,
something that couldn't have happened if I had used a Toyota brand carb
rebuild kit because its float falve has a filter screen to keep junk
out of it.

"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
> carcrazy42 wrote:
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>> gas, carbureted[/color]
>
> Can you remove a spark plug and see if it sparks when you hold its body
> against bare metal on the engine or frame and crank the engine? If
> not, try spraying something flammable, like choke cleaner, into the air
> intake while cranking the engine (leave the air filter and cover in
> place, in case the engine spits). If the engine cranks exactly as
> before, there's probably no spark. But if it starts or speeds up even
> briefly, then you likely have no fuel getting into the engine because
> of a bad fuel pump (strong gasoline smell) or fuel cut solenoid. That
> solenoid (there may be two, one for each carb barrel) should click if
> you disconnect its cable and apply 12V to its leads (there may be only
> one lead, for 12V).
>
> My Corolla quit running because the rubber o-ring for one of the fuel
> cut solenoids disintegrated and somehow got lodged in the float valve,
> something that couldn't have happened if I had used a Toyota brand carb
> rebuild kit because its float falve has a filter screen to keep junk
> out of it.
>[/color]

The OP mentioned that the distributor rotor does not turn when cranking the
engine. Assuming that the distributor shaft or drive gear did not snap,
then the camshaft is not turning, and if the camshaft is not turning, and
the timing belt has not been changed in 160,000 miles, the first thing I
would take a look at is the timing belt.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)