Abandoning Corolla - New Auris

Toyota Auris will replace the Corollas in Japan and Europe. I wonder
whether Toyota is also planning to abandon the Corolla name in the
North American market.
Looking at the photos, I think that the Auris has more close
resemblance to the smaller sized Yaris than the Corolla. Initially, I
though that Auris was intended to fit into a new very subcompact car
market, by "shrinking" the engine size of the North American Yaris, to
around or even below 1000cc. But I was wrong, but surprised to know
that it was actually planned to replace the larger sized Toyota
Corolla.
It appears that Toyota Corolla name is faltering in the European
market, hence the changing to a new name. My question is whether Toyota
North America will abandon the Corolla's famous flagship, and replace
it with a new name - Auris. I recall that name "Corolla" has been known
in this part of the world for more than 25 years.

a 5 to 10 year old Corolla continues to be a value. I don't car what they
call it.

<aniramca@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162730928.578315.31220@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Toyota Auris will replace the Corollas in Japan and Europe. I wonder
> whether Toyota is also planning to abandon the Corolla name in the
> North American market.
> Looking at the photos, I think that the Auris has more close
> resemblance to the smaller sized Yaris than the Corolla. Initially, I
> though that Auris was intended to fit into a new very subcompact car
> market, by "shrinking" the engine size of the North American Yaris, to
> around or even below 1000cc. But I was wrong, but surprised to know
> that it was actually planned to replace the larger sized Toyota
> Corolla.
> It appears that Toyota Corolla name is faltering in the European
> market, hence the changing to a new name. My question is whether Toyota
> North America will abandon the Corolla's famous flagship, and replace
> it with a new name - Auris. I recall that name "Corolla" has been known
> in this part of the world for more than 25 years.
>[/color]

I think that the Corolla badge name and sedan style is no longer as popular
with the younger car market as it was with the older baby boomer generation.
Hence the funky name and body style change.

I just got a plain Jane Corolla CE 2007 because I preferred the simplicity
of the car compared to other Toyota models and other car makers. The less
gadgets, the less things that can go wrong. My only peeve was that side
curtain air bags and heated side mirrors were not available. These are
safety features that should be standard.

The new hatchback body style, while more user friendly for hauling large
items, it useless from a security aspect. At least with a sedan, you can
lock your valuables out of site. A neat feature I found with my new Corolla
is that the rear seats can only be released to fold down with a lever
located inside the trunk. With the trunk key slot in the horizontal
position, your Christmas shopping gifts will have a reasonable chance of
making the trip to the bottom of your tree.


<aniramca@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1162730928.578315.31220@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=blue]
> Toyota Auris will replace the Corollas in Japan and Europe. I wonder
> whether Toyota is also planning to abandon the Corolla name in the
> North American market.
> Looking at the photos, I think that the Auris has more close
> resemblance to the smaller sized Yaris than the Corolla. Initially, I
> though that Auris was intended to fit into a new very subcompact car
> market, by "shrinking" the engine size of the North American Yaris, to
> around or even below 1000cc. But I was wrong, but surprised to know
> that it was actually planned to replace the larger sized Toyota
> Corolla.
> It appears that Toyota Corolla name is faltering in the European
> market, hence the changing to a new name. My question is whether Toyota
> North America will abandon the Corolla's famous flagship, and replace
> it with a new name - Auris. I recall that name "Corolla" has been known
> in this part of the world for more than 25 years.
>[/color]

In article <nrp3h.9623$tH2.552@newsfe20.lga>,
"homepc" <wiebe08@hotmail.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> I just got a plain Jane Corolla CE 2007 because I preferred the simplicity
> of the car compared to other Toyota models and other car makers. The less
> gadgets, the less things that can go wrong.[/color]
The current Corolla is a great value car.
Here (Vancouver, BC) they are taking over the taxi market, even heavily
used at the airport. Last week 4 of us, with 2 bags each, came from the
airport in one. Quite comfortable.
[color=blue]
> My only peeve was that side
> curtain air bags and heated side mirrors were not available. These are
> safety features that should be standard.[/color]
They and ABS should be standard on all cars.[color=blue]
>
> The new hatchback body style, while more user friendly for hauling large
> items, it useless from a security aspect. At least with a sedan, you can
> lock your valuables out of site. A neat feature I found with my new Corolla
> is that the rear seats can only be released to fold down with a lever
> located inside the trunk. With the trunk key slot in the horizontal
> position, your Christmas shopping gifts will have a reasonable chance of
> making the trip to the bottom of your tree.[/color]
I disagree with you here. As thief can easily get into any car, a more
secure trunk accomplishes nothing. Some protection is gained by not
leaving anything visible.
The European tendency to have the trunk default to unlocked when the
doors are unlocked is the biggest car security exposure I know of.
Friends of mine had some luggage stolen in Europe when they were at a
stop light. I've rejected several otherwise excellent European cars
with this "feature".

Luba Papageorgio wrote:[color=blue]
> a 5 to 10 year old Corolla continues to be a value. I don't car what they
> call it.[/color]

amen, top poster. Only car I'd own these days is a Honda or a Toyota.
So I own both.
[color=blue]
>
> <aniramca@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1162730928.578315.31220@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...[color=green]
> > Toyota Auris will replace the Corollas in Japan and Europe. I wonder
> > whether Toyota is also planning to abandon the Corolla name in the
> > North American market.
> > Looking at the photos, I think that the Auris has more close
> > resemblance to the smaller sized Yaris than the Corolla. Initially, I
> > though that Auris was intended to fit into a new very subcompact car
> > market, by "shrinking" the engine size of the North American Yaris, to
> > around or even below 1000cc. But I was wrong, but surprised to know
> > that it was actually planned to replace the larger sized Toyota
> > Corolla.
> > It appears that Toyota Corolla name is faltering in the European
> > market, hence the changing to a new name. My question is whether Toyota
> > North America will abandon the Corolla's famous flagship, and replace
> > it with a new name - Auris. I recall that name "Corolla" has been known
> > in this part of the world for more than 25 years.
> >[/color][/color]

"who" <i@notaspammer.net> wrote in message
news:i-DF9D46.10351906112006@news.telus.net...[color=blue]
> In article <nrp3h.9623$tH2.552@newsfe20.lga>,
> "homepc" <wiebe08@hotmail.com> wrote:[color=green]
>> The new hatchback body style, while more user friendly for hauling large
>> items, it useless from a security aspect. At least with a sedan, you can
>> lock your valuables out of site. A neat feature I found with my new
>> Corolla
>> is that the rear seats can only be released to fold down with a lever
>> located inside the trunk. With the trunk key slot in the horizontal
>> position, your Christmas shopping gifts will have a reasonable chance of
>> making the trip to the bottom of your tree.[/color]
> I disagree with you here. As thief can easily get into any car, a more
> secure trunk accomplishes nothing. Some protection is gained by not
> leaving anything visible.
> The European tendency to have the trunk default to unlocked when the
> doors are unlocked is the biggest car security exposure I know of.
> Friends of mine had some luggage stolen in Europe when they were at a
> stop light. I've rejected several otherwise excellent European cars
> with this "feature".[/color]

There are a lot of smash and grab burglaries in shopping mall parking lots
here in Winnipeg around Christmas time. They are usually done by punks
without any special skills other than being able to smash a window and grab
whatever they can get their hands on. If easy access to the trunk isn't
there, they don't bother and move along to another car.

You are right about being able to bypass locks. The ones that carry those
tools are the ones who want to steal the whole car for joyrides. There are
a lot of GM and Ford trucks and SUV's being stolen in Winnipeg.

On 5 Nov 2006 04:48:48 -0800, [email]aniramca@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
[color=blue]
>Toyota Auris will replace the Corollas in Japan and Europe. I wonder
>whether Toyota is also planning to abandon the Corolla name in the
>North American market.[/color]

I'd really like to know where you are getting your info from because
it is flat wrong.

First the Auris introduction form the English portion of Toyota Japan
website [url]http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/06/1023.html[/url] Now the Corolla
announcement. [url]http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/06/1010.html[/url]

Now for the Japanese language site which has much better pictures of
the cars [url]http://toyota.jp/[/url] . The one I'd really like to see over here
is the Mark X, the third one shown on the opening page.

The deal with the Corolla is that it is being held in Japan for one
year before it is going to be released to the rest of the world to
work any bugs out. Toyota did that in the past but got away from it
and went to a 6mo hold in most cases but quality suffered. As it is,
the new Corolla is already late in Japan because the new Civic's
design and appointments took them by surprise.

"If" the Auris ever makes it to the States, my bet would be that it
will replace the Matrix.

[color=blue]
>Looking at the photos, I think that the Auris has more close
>resemblance to the smaller sized Yaris than the Corolla. Initially, I
>though that Auris was intended to fit into a new very subcompact car
>market, by "shrinking" the engine size of the North American Yaris, to
>around or even below 1000cc. But I was wrong, but surprised to know
>that it was actually planned to replace the larger sized Toyota
>Corolla.
>It appears that Toyota Corolla name is faltering in the European
>market, hence the changing to a new name. My question is whether Toyota
>North America will abandon the Corolla's famous flagship, and replace
>it with a new name - Auris. I recall that name "Corolla" has been known
>in this part of the world for more than 25 years.[/color]

I may be wrong, but just type : "auris to replace corolla" on Google
news, and you will find several articles about this.
Perhaps they just 'retire" the car name for some time, and may be
reintroduce later. In some south asian market, the corolla is now
called Corolla Altis.
On similar thought, I also wonder if Toyota Supra is now gone, or are
they still sold in Japan or in other countries? Same with the Toyota
Corona, Cressida, and Mark brands.
Does they produce Toyota Harrier any longer, or now is it completely
replaced with the Lexus RX name?

Garry Owen wrote:[color=blue]
> On 5 Nov 2006 04:48:48 -0800, [email]aniramca@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:
>[color=green]
> >Toyota Auris will replace the Corollas in Japan and Europe. I wonder
> >whether Toyota is also planning to abandon the Corolla name in the
> >North American market.[/color]
>
> I'd really like to know where you are getting your info from because
> it is flat wrong.
>
> First the Auris introduction form the English portion of Toyota Japan
> website [url]http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/06/1023.html[/url] Now the Corolla
> announcement. [url]http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/news/06/1010.html[/url]
>
> Now for the Japanese language site which has much better pictures of
> the cars [url]http://toyota.jp/[/url] . The one I'd really like to see over here
> is the Mark X, the third one shown on the opening page.
>
> The deal with the Corolla is that it is being held in Japan for one
> year before it is going to be released to the rest of the world to
> work any bugs out. Toyota did that in the past but got away from it
> and went to a 6mo hold in most cases but quality suffered. As it is,
> the new Corolla is already late in Japan because the new Civic's
> design and appointments took them by surprise.
>
> "If" the Auris ever makes it to the States, my bet would be that it
> will replace the Matrix.
>
>[color=green]
> >Looking at the photos, I think that the Auris has more close
> >resemblance to the smaller sized Yaris than the Corolla. Initially, I
> >though that Auris was intended to fit into a new very subcompact car
> >market, by "shrinking" the engine size of the North American Yaris, to
> >around or even below 1000cc. But I was wrong, but surprised to know
> >that it was actually planned to replace the larger sized Toyota
> >Corolla.
> >It appears that Toyota Corolla name is faltering in the European
> >market, hence the changing to a new name. My question is whether Toyota
> >North America will abandon the Corolla's famous flagship, and replace
> >it with a new name - Auris. I recall that name "Corolla" has been known
> >in this part of the world for more than 25 years.[/color][/color]

[email]aniramca@yahoo.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue]
> I may be wrong, but just type : "auris to replace corolla" on Google
> news, and you will find several articles about this.[/color]

if anything, the auris looks to be a good choice to replace the scion
xA. i think its too small to replace the corolla, and the yaris already
has a 2dr hatch and 4dr sedan.